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Were Things Always This Chaotic?

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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Things seem almost magnified these days, but maybe it's just me.

I’ve been questioning if things have always been this chaotic, in our world, or is it just that the advent of “Social Media”, MSM Propaganda, and people having access to posting video’s quickly that make it seem that way.



Here’s my questions to ATS members.

Has things always been this screwed up in our world? Lately everything seems almost overwhelming.

And how can people that have the news on every day, not have a mental breakdown from the madness, and BS that they constantly spew on MSM? Reasoning for this question is I don’t have a TV, nor cable, and don’t watch news broadcasts every day because it’s almost mind-numbing being around it for 10 minutes. I understand we have the power to turn it off, but when the majority of people are MSM addicts it has ripple effects to people that don't subscribe.

Lately I’ve been seeing lots of people coming apart, at the seams, for no real reasons. Anyone else experiencing this phenomenon?




Even animals are feeling it.






Lastly thanks for any of your input and wisdom upfront.

RT

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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I read a good book in the 70s named "Future Shock" by an author Alvin Toffler. Basically this was a scenario discussed , In fact one of Toffler's famous quotes is
"One of the definitions of sanity is being able to tell the real from the unreal . Soon , we are going to need a new definition" - Alvin Toffler



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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MSM talking heads are doing just that, talking, its a job. They probably don't pay any attention to what they are saying (News) unless it is "classified" as a major event.

Its always been screwed up IMHO, difference now is that "news" globally is instant wherever it emanates from, we no longer have to wait for the pony express or pigeon, instant news a good thing? probably not ......back in the day, news from afar was already "ancient" and the world had already moved on, now .... we are in it, as it happens



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:09 PM
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Without getting super deep into a philosophies and all, I will convey as to why I feel times of distress are seemingly happening at a higher rate.

The past Mayan prophecies that were said to be the "end times" was more so a shift of consciousness. Essentially, the last recorded Baktun shift of 12/21/2012 is important because it was to mark a shift in humans, in terms of being left brain (ego/male) dominant to being right brain (heart/female) dominant. This is happening to us all whether we like or not, or even know it is happening at all.

So, what we see as distress happening more often is 2 things: the heart is now more subconsciously aware to respond to hard ships happening around us... kind of like the motherly instinct is blooming in all of us. Secondly, the ego/male/building dominant aspects of our past are not easily let go. Some will fight it and try to express their ego for selfish purposes, while others will take on the role of blowing up their own wrong doings as the shift occurs... we will see this occur in a multitude of ways.

As hard as it is to see such hardships in the world, I take comfort in knowing that the shift to the heart's dominance in human behavior is taking a solid hold on humanity. We are ripping the band aids off you could say.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
I read a good book in the 70s named "Future Shock" by an author Alvin Toffler. Basically this was a scenario discussed , In fact one of Toffler's famous quotes is
"One of the definitions of sanity is being able to tell the real from the unreal . Soon , we are going to need a new definition" - Alvin Toffler


In a nuthouse of 200 people and 1 doctor, who would actually be considered the crazy one. lol

I'm hoping the majority doesn't rule, but in times like this I'm thinking everything is subjective.
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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: ttobban

The Mayan's still had to wait for news, even from their own back yard ...... they certainly were not (as far as i know) aware of global events.

The shift from Ego to Heart, as you so aptly put it, has nothing to do with Hormone pollution in the water then .... you know like Oestrogen etc from the female birth control pill (one example)

This has nothing to do with Baktun's, more to do with Human Ignorance that the Mayans could never have foreseen, unless anyone can prove to me otherwise with evidence (ETA: Mayan prophecies that is, not pollution)


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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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The world has always been screwed up. Think slavery and the holocaust. The big factor is, as you said, more news and faster dissemination of it.

As for how we are able to stand it all? I think people become numb to it after a while. You see shooting after shooting on the news and it eventually just goes in one ear and out the other. Maybe there's a conspiracy there? Expose us to more and greater atrocities and we won't even notice when the globalists take over.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: NoOneAskedMe
The world has always been screwed up. Think slavery and the holocaust. The big factor is, as you said, more news and faster dissemination of it.

As for how we are able to stand it all? I think people become numb to it after a while. You see shooting after shooting on the news and it eventually just goes in one ear and out the other. Maybe there's a conspiracy there? Expose us to more and greater atrocities and we won't even notice when the globalists take over.


Agreed, it has to be a spectacular for us now to pay attention, otherwise its same old same old



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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It comes and goes in waves.
First there is a mountain, and then there is no mountain.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: skunkape23
It comes and goes in waves.
First there is a mountain, and then there is no mountain.


Remind me again, which mountains have disappeared that can be quantified in our Human existence on this planet?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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Yes its always been this chaotic, only before everything was slower. None the less, it was still killing us slowly. What differs today is that we live in color, where as before everything was either black or white.Nowadays we simply have so much hype and bull# to swim through. If we look to closely to the bull# it pulls us in.a reply to: Realtruth



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor

originally posted by: skunkape23
It comes and goes in waves.
First there is a mountain, and then there is no mountain.


Remind me again, which mountains have disappeared that can be quantified in our Human existence on this planet?


It's a quote from the Tao Teh Ching.
It's just a poetic metaphor.
In the common speak, it is something along the lines of "Sometimes sh!t happens."



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:55 PM
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oftentimes i find myself questioning the same thing, op. i even start considering whether the concept of hell as being depicted by the religions matches the situation of today's world. i cannot picture a concept of hell worse than the one we keep struggling in right now, nothing can be worse than the psychological warfare we have to face and which keeps gaining pace exponentially.

either it is the internet which we are carrying everwhere in our pockets and which is bombarding us with the latest news every second, or we are growing older and our focus is shifting more towards the socio-politics, idk.

either way, there is this strong feeling of dread that leaves no room for positivity.


originally posted by: skunkape23
It's a quote from the Tao Teh Ching.
It's just a poetic metaphor.
In the common speak, it is something along the lines of "Sometimes sh!t happens."


seems not just sometimes, but all the time though.


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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Realtruth

I have been wondering about similar things.

I remember hearing of these 'rat experiments' when I was young and the public was actually discussing the 'population bomb'.

nihrecord.nih.gov...




“The one thing they did not have was space...He allowed the population to grow to 80 in the first instance.”

As the scientist observed, a social hierarchy developed: One despot male and 9 females claimed the two defensible pens with only one ramp provided; 60 others crowded into the other 2 pens with two ramps. Calhoun found that “rodent utopia” rapidly became “hell.”

He described the onset of several pathologies: violence and aggression, with rats in the crowded pen “going berserk, attacking females, juveniles and less-active males.” There was also “sexual deviance.” Rats became hypersexual, pursuing females relentlessly even when not in heat.




Sounds somewhat familiar - n'cest pas?

I've always remember that - that the serious discussions about the possible human implecations. Interesting how that all went away somehow....

My musings have been more about the good-will of people. I was raised to believe that while we differ on how we "pursue happienss" most people don't want to hurt other people and I've lived my life that way but I do find myself recently wondering if that is true. I always knew there were 'evil' people out there, those that took pleasure in the suffering of other and those that didn't consider the consequences of their behavoir on others, but have lived my life with the asummption that no person actively wished me harm. I am begining to doubt that truth as it seems that more and more indidivuals actively wish others harm.

What happened to all the people of good will? I still believe, and will continue to choose to believe, that the majority of people, everyday working class people are of good will. But where are they in positions of power. Cannot the acquisition of power and/or wealth (think it's rather like space/time eh?) goes to those of good will or only those of ill will.

As to chaos, the chaos brings me some degree of hope - as chaos is the percursor of radical shifts. Which way those shifts may be cannot be predicted but nontheless a transformative shift. When a system if so out of equalibrium, it will make a 'jump' (bifurcation) to a different order. Our climate is approaching such a point and whether or not the 'new order' (hmmm?) with be amenable to live, as we understand it, is doubtful. Perhaps there is a natural (or for theists godly) threshold for the development of intelligence without corresponding ethical maturation.

The chaos we are seeing is the direct result of human behavoir - this greed, extortion and ill will. All traits of those with intelligence (cleverness) without compassion and a sense of responsibility to others (those who make our very lives possible).




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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

I never said Mayans predicted anything... I merely used a reference in history to point out, as to why I as an individual, believe that people are going through this shift whether liked or not. So I call it a shift, and you call it ignnorance... I fail to see a difference when terms are put onto things just to provide a conclusion as to what caused a said event to occur... to term it is only for the analyzer to feel better about where to store the info in their brain... to term something does not mean it is right or wrong in most cases, of which a complex network of billions of individual energies mingle in falls into this category of 'un-termable' causes.

You really can't say one thing has 'nothing' to do with a set of whatever events without actual proof, as you put. And, since words are merely opinions, then the chances of Oestrogen in water is equally irrelevant. I understand this, but those stuck in a black/white world are quick to invalidate other opinions that oppose what their learnings are. I opt for the 'anything is possible' way of forming opinions. Math is the only factual based debating I will conclude, thanks anyway.

Besides... I feel Flouride to be a bigger issue then Oestragen. It damages the 3rd eye, and does not allow for balance within to occur... or maybe its just there to prevent tooth decay, who knows... Fric says one thing, and Frac says another.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:57 PM
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"order out of chaos" springs to mind, for everyone to submit unto tptb they first need a state of chaos, what better way than to overwhelm the senses with a constant drumming of violence, recklessness and visuals of chaos.... Just a thought



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: ttobban

There is no need to defend your information. It's an excellent way of looking at things, IMO.

From western thinking the shift from the feminine view of reality to the male view happened about 6,000 years ago and did not just happen over night but over centuries (see Eisler's "Chalice and Blade" and Shaln's "Alphabet vs Goddess" for two different takes on this process - probably both 'vectors' played a part IMO). And I like to hope that the coming epoch (if we survive as a specises (oh - spelling...)) will be one that is truly, as Ms. Eisler states, one of gender-neural partnership and collaboration rather the then gender/race/power dominant civilization that we currently live in.

The (over) reaction and violent fear of the ruling elite will continue to escalate until the collapse.

My meager reading of Mayan cosmology is consistent with these other theories. Thank you for mentioning this piece of the puzzle.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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Hell - is a state of mind. And - and the only thing you can take with you when you die.
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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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I was thinking about this today while reading a thread about glitches. People reporting weird instances of suddenly being old or young for a moment, glasses changing color over night, a town momentarily appearing as it did 100 years in the past, etc.

Before the Internet the only way we learned about these types of events (which have apparently always happened) was in a "Strange but true" book or program. We were left to wonder if the stories were real or fabricated.

We had a very small list of these documented events and usually heard the same ones over and over or different variations of the same stories.

Now I can jump on Reddit and hear them in real time straight from the mouths or fingers of the people that actually experienced them. I still have to choose whether or not to believe them, discern whether it was explainable through conventional science etc but it leads me to believe that nothing has changed.

The saying "the more things change, the more they stay the same" is an old one ironically enough. I think the only difference today is our ability to hyper aggregate these stories and instantly share them instead of being limited to how many we can fit into a 150 page book or 60 minute program.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
Hell - is a state of mind. And - and the only thing you can take with you when you die.


Yes to the first part, and I hope the heck not in the second part.





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