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'Humanitarian crisis' in NHS hospitals, warns Red Cross

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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the whole giant edifice model of hospitals is a joke and needs to change with the times.


I recommend a distributed hospital/clinic model where there is a small clinic in every large neighborhood staffed with a skeleton crew at all times for handling basic stuff and life and death emergencies which fit a certain profile. An example of that would be cardiac arrest where an AED machine and other similar devices could be used to stabilize or intervene in certain crises and that would buy the patient a little bit of time while first responders arrive on scene. I personally think every large building, especially apartment buildings should have an AED machine and other basic intervention medicines to be unlocked by the onsite manager who has their own emergency number anyone in the area can call to unlock the device and bring it to the apartment where its needed.


Really there just isnt enough imagination being brought to bear on solving some of these issues.




posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Wait he made an opinion 12 years ago, in a single and page probably a paragraph..

Do you want to know my opinions 12 years ago?

You take his opinion made in 2005, and make it fact 2017? He even state " I don't share that opinion anymore "

[Free pdf] p.74 -78



The Health Secretary is listed as one of the authors, though he has previously denied that he wrote the chapter on the NHS and says it does not reflect his views.

The book was presented as a whole and chapters are not marked with individual authors, however.




The whole Interview

Nothing taken out of context to make your opinion valid? No, you sure?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

Blame Sturgeon for whatever issues you wanna whine about in Scotland.
Health is a devolved issue solely the responsibility of the Scottish government.

The Scottish government have enough money to provide free prescription medicines to everyone regardless of personal income so if health care is crappie there blame the spending choices of your OWN elected government, not Westminster.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang




Nothing taken out of context to make your opinion valid? No, you sure?

My turn to Lol at you for posting an interview with Hunt and believing what he says.
Jeremy Hunt is a liar , as a Brit I know this.

Jeremy Hunt has been caught lying in order to force through a new junior doctor's contract against the will of NHS staff. He claimed support for an imposed contract from 20 NHS chief executives. But 11 out of the 20 executives have said that they had not offered their support, and hoped for further negotiations.
www.thepetitionsite.com...



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: gortex

As far as I can tell Hunt only has two useful traits.

1. As appropriate rhyming slang.

2. Make other politicians actualy seem semi honest and competent in comparison.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Fact
I don't post assumptions
I do post opinions though



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: gortex

You might wanna check your sources(?) I used your sources.. I have great hope for the future of the democratic system in the UK



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

You really are one major wind up merchant aren't you?
You've contributed zero to the thread and yet still posting drivel



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: tikbalang

Fact
I don't post assumptions
I do post opinions though


Here we have one who knows the differences!!
Do you think anything can change?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

No I'm posting the other side of the coin of privileges in society, I'm pretty sure most politicians works in the favor for the whole nation not a single individual



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

What exactly is the point you are trying to make in this thread?
You seem to have no opinion just open disdain for anyone who expresses theirs.

I think your a #ing troll and would prefer you to go back writing your nonsense threads where I can continue to ignore your ramblings.
Why choose this particular thread to be clear and succinct?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand

I think I made a point earlier, if everyone had a better understanding and contributed to
Society, I believe it would work for the better..



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

What does that mean exactly?
Typical vague statement like your nonsense threads I always ignore.

*edit*
Come on explain with detail how community pulling together assists a universal tax funded healthcare system?
edit on 7.1.2017 by grainofsand because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport
No I'm posting the other side of the coin of privileges in society, I'm pretty sure most politicians works in the favor for the whole nation not a single individual


Knowing British politics I'm pretty sure they work for 2 things.
1 Keep their core vote happy.
2 Keep their corporate masters and friends happy.

The general public just pay the bills.

That is opinion.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Be careful with opinion while some members are contributing in this thread lol



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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It really started under a female Prime Minister(not this one). They (you know of who I speak) have always wanted to privatize the NHS. Not to better it but to use it as a cash cow like the USA. As in the USA you can clearly see the amounts of money to be made, for insurance companies and private medical companies.
The object of the game is to make the populace fed up of waiting times, blame the NHS workers and generally turn everyone against the NHS so you get that fed up (this by the way includes people dying for any number of reasons to justify the supposed failings) and you will welcome privatization with welcome arms.
The first nail was getting rid of matrons (oh, that sounds trite to you) and employing managers. Their roll was to take vast sums out of the working system to pay their wages then to cause strife by moving money (there is only so much money per hospital) and starving vital services.
Then through starving local authorities of money so there is no resources for after hospital care and none at all for mental health. She actually called that "care in the community", it don't work. Shutting mental hospitals and putting the burden on general hospitals and mentally ill, dangerous people roaming the streets unsupervised.
Oh hell, I could go on for ever. It' all about systematic downgrading till it actually physically fails. Then they jump in with the saviour privatization.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Unfortunately I do totally agree. Its been the plan for a very long time I'm sure despite all the promises of never privatising it. They've almost done that anyway with the hundreds of sub contractors they use instead of employing staff and by making them "trusts" cough. We now have hospitals begging for equipment, holding fund raisers & raffles, go fund me pages etc which is well out of order.

Once upon a time our nurses were the best in the world. They trained at the nursing school in the hospital and automatically had a job waiting for them in the hospital they trained at. No 3 yrs at University studying for a degree with little hands on experience, no signing on the dole because there were no jobs for them once they'd actually got the damn degree just straight into familiar territory in the department they preferred to specialise in. Now many go abroad whilst the jobs that come up are filled with foreign nurses. Its all arse about tit! Same with dentists!

Oh and matrons are back in some areas but appear to be more admin than nursing to me



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

My mate just finished his nursing degree and walked straight into a job at the local hospital.
The overwhelming majority of his degree time was on placement in hospitals doing 12 hour shifts.

Maybe things are different in different parts of the UK.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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At one time the NHS would not accept anybody from abroad. Only people trained in the NHS itself as they said they were poorly trained and that included people from the US. Yet our nurses were welcomed anywhere in the world because of their training. Not now though. We've got doctors from other countries being shipped in to cover short shifts and in some cases killed people with their incompetence. Yet still they have them.




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