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Injuries reported after shots were fired at Ft. Lauderdale Airport

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posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: dreamingawake
The source also mentions he was investigated for child porn but due to non evidence it was dismissed. Weapons were seized then as by a CBS report.


It's SOP to slander a suspect with child porn accusations. I wouldn't give it any credence.


The original source of that is CBS NEWS via law enforcement.


He was also investigated as part of a child porn investigation in either 2011 or 2012, law enforcement sources told CBS News. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but no charges were filed, sources said.
See here
Do you think it's a lie to cover for something?




posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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Double post.

ETA:

The Anchorage Airport police chief confirmed the suspect boarded Delta flight with no other bags just the gun in a hard case. Hmm, had only had the gun with him. And that wasn't suspect to the TSA?

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posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: sputniksteve

originally posted by: andrew778
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

I just saw on a news channel that the shooter said the CIA was controlling his mind and forcing him to watch ISIS videos


You are actually the 10th person to post that statement alone since page 16. So an average of once per page we were reminded by Fox news and just "a news source" of that narrative. That doesn't count posts discussing it, only posts that have no information but to inform us in case we didn't yet know.

I am not blaming you for not reading 25 pages before posting, or for quitting at 16 before not seeing it and deciding to post I just thought it was interesting to see that constantly repeated. It appears I was a bit hyperbolic when I first mentioned it a few pages back.

This has been a morbidly and disgustingly fascinating thread to watch unfold in real time. By page 3 we had the shooters name, from there we were bombarded with news reports that the shooter wasn't Jewish, Didn't fly through Canada, may or may not have had a Star Wars shirt on, is White Hispanic,isn't the poor fella with the twitter wearing Jordan beanie with fabulous eyebrows and goatee, may have worked for G4S, and I have heard claim he reported to the FBI that the CIA was forcing him to either watch or work for ISIS.

Crazy day. The only thing I know for sure after 8 hours is dude killed 5 people and wounded 8 or 9. Not a whole lot else really. I suppose that compared to some terrorist events that is more than is usually known for sure in the first 9 or 10 hours.
Is this not a terrorist event? I believe attempting to kill as many people as you can would be classified as a terrorist attack.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:35 PM
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I'm sorry...

But at what point do I say the guy never flew an Air Canada flight?
It seems he was on a DELTA Flight.( Air canada was right... which is why there is no passenger records..)


Sorry.. go onπŸ™„


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posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh
I'm sorry...

But at what point do I say the guy never flew an Air Canada flight?
It seems he was on a DELTA Flight.( Air canada was right... which is why there is no passenger records..)


Sorry.. go onπŸ™„

Exactly. Too much misdirection here.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: Gmm1022

It is in my estimation and opinion. I didn't intend to imply it wasn't.

"I suppose that compared to some terrorist events that is more than is usually known for sure in the first 9 or 10 hours"

Is not that clear I suppose. I mean to say in some instances it is days before we even know who did it or how many were killed or wounded. I was trying to express my frustration with the terrible job the "media" does by confusing the situation. Plenty of online sleuths are to blame as well but I am not trying to single anyone out or place blame on them, which would be against T&C anyway.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: Gmm1022

originally posted by: Bigburgh
I'm sorry...

But at what point do I say the guy never flew an Air Canada flight?
It seems he was on a DELTA Flight.( Air canada was right... which is why there is no passenger records..)


Sorry.. go onπŸ™„

Exactly. Too much misdirection here.


Ok.. welcome here.
Spit it out. Go with your local expertise.

It was you that helped in this . Don't hold back. I'll be in Titusville. πŸ€—
Please stick around!



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
MSM Tweet:

NBC Nightly News Verified account ‏@NBCNightlyNews
US military official: Florida airport gunman was being tracked by Army Criminal Investigations Command due to psychological issues.

Twitter


Not according to CNN


- Santiago was not on the radar for possible terrorism ties, according to a law enforcement official and a Department of Homeland Security official.

www.cnn.com...


Ah, no terrorism ties, not under investigation for that, and it wouldn't be necessary because the people who were tracking him and probably manipulating him, are the real terrorists.

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: Gmm1022

It is in my estimation and opinion. I didn't intend to imply it wasn't.

"I suppose that compared to some terrorist events that is more than is usually known for sure in the first 9 or 10 hours"

Is not that clear I suppose. I mean to say in some instances it is days before we even know who did it or how many were killed or wounded. I was trying to express my frustration with the terrible job the "media" does by confusing the situation. Plenty of online sleuths are to blame as well but I am not trying to single anyone out or place blame on them, which would be against T&C anyway.

you're right. We found out who the shooter was very early in this incident. In fact, I heard a congressman break the news on twitter that the gun was checked into baggage before any major news outlet reported it. Crazy
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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: Gmm1022

Get a screen capture of that of a time stamp if you can, please and thank you. Which Congressman? That would also be helpful to know. Could be important.

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: Gmm1022

Get a screen capture of that of a time stamp if you can, please and thank you. Which Congressman? That would also be helpful to know. Could be important.
mobile.twitter.com...



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: Gmm1022

Get a screen capture of that of a time stamp if you can, please and thank you. Which Congressman? That would also be helpful to know. Could be important.
12:36pm. Shootings happened just before 1pm right?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:20 AM
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Thanks to the thread participants for an interesting thread.
Like a lot of other people I was listening to the live feed from one of the links posted early in the thread. The thread was only two or three pages when I came across it. I listened to the live feed for most of the afternoon while working, heard as did many others, teams responding to report of shots fired, people arrested, mass confusion..... I watched a couple of the videos linked here. Don't really know what to think. We really don't have much more reliable information now than we did when I first saw this thread.
Somebody shot a bunch of people at the airport.
People were forcibly removed from the airport by men with guns.

I've seen several videos from cell phones but does anyone know if they have released the security footage from inside the airport? Shouldn't that show exactly what his movements were?



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:33 AM
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From what I've seen in the news the guy had schizophrenia. It's a common delusion with the illness to think the government or an outside source is trying to control your mind. Schizophrenia causes brain damage and your own mind turns against you causing hallucinations and delusions. I have the illness and I've been through it. Delusions are false beliefs meaning you believe things that aren't real. With hallucinations you see and hear things that aren't really there. It's as though all of your senses are being tricked by your mind. There is no way to detect the illness until the person becomes sick. They can be normal up until that point. Once the illness is triggered it spreads throughout the brain doing damage. There are certain genes linked to the illness. Some people can recover from it to a degree with the help of medication. It effects 1% of the population. Some people can have it and live their entire life without knowing it. In other people it can be more severe and debilitating. When I came down with it at age 20 the doctors told my mom I'd probably have to be institutionalized for life. My prognoses was very poor. Thankfully I've recovered to a point I have very few hallucinations and delusions. Most people with the illness are not violent. In some people the illness can cause them to become violent. I've been taking medication for 20 years. It helps with my illness and I'm not a violent person. It can be very difficult to get help for someone with the illness. Especially if they are an adult. You can't just have someone locked up against their will easily. They have to be a danger to themselves or someone else but if they never tell anyone what is going on in their head no one knows. Theres also the problem with lack of services available to mentally ill and health insurance. The system is a complicated mess really.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:38 AM
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From what I'm hearing they're saying he is a Hispanic ISIS supporter. Liberals on suicide watch.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:41 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork

originally posted by: dreamingawake
MSM Tweet:

NBC Nightly News Verified account ‏@NBCNightlyNews
US military official: Florida airport gunman was being tracked by Army Criminal Investigations Command due to psychological issues.

Twitter


Not according to CNN


- Santiago was not on the radar for possible terrorism ties, according to a law enforcement official and a Department of Homeland Security official.

www.cnn.com...


Ah, no terrorism ties, not under investigation for that, and it wouldn't be necessary because the people who were tracking him and probably manipulating him, are the real terrorists.


Pretty damning then. MSM lies are abound as usual. This reeks of a FF.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

Emir Mohamed Sikkim is one alias,the photos of the individual with this name and Estaban are to me identical-one things for sure this one has the smell of the stideon pit



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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originally posted by: Gmm1022

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: Gmm1022

It is in my estimation and opinion. I didn't intend to imply it wasn't.

"I suppose that compared to some terrorist events that is more than is usually known for sure in the first 9 or 10 hours"

Is not that clear I suppose. I mean to say in some instances it is days before we even know who did it or how many were killed or wounded. I was trying to express my frustration with the terrible job the "media" does by confusing the situation. Plenty of online sleuths are to blame as well but I am not trying to single anyone out or place blame on them, which would be against T&C anyway.

you're right. We found out who the shooter was very early in this incident. In fact, I heard a congressman break the news on twitter that the gun was checked into baggage before any major news outlet reported it. Crazy

Looking more more info on that too. Who the heck allowed it(TSA only?) and do they know his purpose for the flight?

Why would he fly to Ft. Laud anyway? It's been shared he was born in NJ(maybe) and he was the Puerto Rico National Guard so maybe he knew people in FL. News says he has no known tiers to there(source).
Just picked an airport to rampage in? Didn't know what he was doing(controlled)? I believe the Delta Alaska flight stopped in SeaTac and the Minn airport, in that sense could have been any airport but he didn't have access to the baggage claim unless he was going to those places.

Though, why did he only have the gun in the luggage. Sure doesn't sound like he was going to stay somewhere.

ETA: also for anyone wondering why he was in Alaska:




Officials with the Alaska Army National Guard confirmed, Santiago has a near decade-long history of military service dating back to 2007.

Lt. Col. Candis A. Olmstead said, Santiago joined the Puerto Rico National Guard when he was 17 years old. In April of 2010, he was deployed overseas, serving in Iraq for about 10 months. After his tour, Santiago joined the Army Reserves, before joining the Alaska Army National Guard in Nov. of 2014.

During that time, Santiago was described as a traditional soldier working as a combat engineer stationed in Anchorage. According to Olmstead, less than two years after enlisting, Santiago received a general discharge from the Alaska Army National Guard in Aug. 2016 for unsatisfactory performance. Officials wouldn't confirm the details behind the discharge. He left service in Alaska as a private first class.



On public records, Santiago had listed an address in South Anchorage.

A man who now lives in the trailer says he does not know Santiago and that his family has occupied the home since Dec. of 2015.

Source - KTUU

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posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: PraetorianAZ


This has to be a terrorist attack.


New Jersey born, surely 'radicalized' in the endless US War on Iraq.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Konduit

Emir Mohamed Sikkim is one alias,the photos of the individual with this name and Estaban are to me identical-one things for sure this one has the smell of the stideon pit



Possible.

When people convert to Islam, they are often given a more Islamic sounding name.

This would be different from their birth name. And all their ID docs would contain their birth name, but within their religious group they would be known by their "new" Islamic name.

Similar thing happens when a person becomes a Christian. That person is often given a new Christian sounding name.

This tradition follows God's renaming Abram to Abraham, and Jacob to Israel, and Simon to Peter, etc..

Taking on the new name is symbolic of taking up a new path in life.

Some people will go through the whole process of changing their legal name, to match their new religious name. But, not everyone does this.

I have a friend who was a Hindu, that became a Christian, and changed his Hindu name to a Christian name, and did it legally also, so that his ID carries his new name. But, this is up to the individual.



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