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Many Americans are aware of the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967, which killed 34 Americans. Israel has always claimed that attack was a mistake. The commander of the Liberty and other survivors have no doubt the Israeli action was deliberate and premeditated. The Israelis jammed five out of six communication frequencies used by the Liberty during the attack --almost succeeding in muffling their desperate calls for help.
Originally posted by Salem
I don't think US have any interests to spy Israel. What could they learn that they didn't already know ?
Originally posted by Fury
so where's that famous muslim tolerance for the children of the book i keep hearing about?
Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
All I can say is you're pathetic for even daring to say that suicide (homicide) bombers are acting to protect their people and will go straight to heaven. Last time I checked good people and heros don't shoot at babies and blow up pizza stores. If you differ with that opinion, you're sick. Plain and simple.
Okay, I will agree with that above stated quote but all the other stuff that was posed by others as a defense mechanism for the murderous Israeli government is quite dense if you ask me. If you people haven't noticed it isn't CA going against his brethren in Israel/Palestine, it is him going against the Israeli government. There is a big difference between being against the government of a people and the people of that government themselves.
Unfortonately when ever Israeli crimes are mentioned people who try and dispute them automatically take the position that the one who is against those crimes is against all the people within that nation. You don't here that in America. You don't here Americans calling the guy who dispises the Bush doctrine haters of Americans. Wonder why that is????
Probably because people can't realize that Israelis control the media and they get ALL of their news from a foreign entity. Just observe for yourself. If a news agency doesn't have Jews in it's top ranking positions than that news source is often deemed anti-Semetic. And for good reason too, cause often they are. Nonetheless the bias for Jews is so strong here in America and in Britian that one finds that the truth is often distorted or ignored by those who fail to believe it. "Blah Blah Blah" is their come back. Some arguement.
It is said that smart people like Leveller and David fail to see that everything Cold Anger says was cold hard fact. Instead they deny these truths and struggle to come up with any viable reason for doing so. Someone mentioned that the reason Jews are allowed automatic citizenship in Israel is so the Jews would FINALLY have a home. Well yes, that is true, I don't think anyone will disagree with that. However they do disagree with the fact that the same doesn't go for the oppressed in other lands. People like the Palestinians. If the Israeli government would have opened their arms to dispossessed Arabs from Jordan and other nations of the Middle East than the situation wouldn't be half as bad as it is now.
The point Cold Anger is trying to make is that this government in Israel is corrupt. Not just corrupt, but racist, murderous, oppressive, tyrannical, ruthless, and segregationalist. How people can deny that is beyond me. They must be brainwashed.
Abraham
Originally posted by Leveller
Blah blah blah.
More anti-Israeli rhetoric by people who claim that it is wrong for others to call them ant-semetic.
Sorry dudes. If the cap fits - wear it.
Cold Anger. You've made a helluva lot of posts against the Jews in the last few days. Most of them have been illogical. Yet even so, you still claim yourself to be "just telling the truth".
Nope. I don't care what anyone else says here about the use of the word. But my friend, there is no escaping the fact - you are anti semetic.
Face the cold, hard, logical truth. It's staring you in the face.
Israel has treated the Palestinians as it has because the Arabs have sworn to destroy their state and their people.
To deny otherwise is to be blind to the truth because of your hatred.
Am I an apologist for the Jews? No more than I would be for anyone else who is being so blatantly lied about because of their race.
Originally posted by CoLD aNGeR
Originally posted by Leveller
Blah blah blah.
Leveller u are telling me with this post that:
Or u read half of my posts
Or u don�t want to read the parts i said 200000 times that i am not anti jew, but u must have a reason for say all the time, because is the only thing you keep saying
Then if u are like that i should call you racist with the arabs for that SO IRRATIONAL comment:
Next time you call me anti-semitist, i will asume u have no other way to disscuss a matter with me, because u say nothing, u don�t disscuss the facts and just creating tension....
U use it because of all the negative things i said of them, but if they do it why i am the responsable?
Your way to finish this would be:
You are Anti-Arab Pro-Israel !!!
(but is not my way to disscuss a matter just to show u what i see in your posts)
Then I guess we agree to disagree. The reason I see myself posting so many pro-Israeli points is because there is no balance here. Everyone seems to be pushing the Palestinian point of view. If everyone were pushing Isreal's case, believe me I would post my logic on behalf of the Palestinians.
I favour neither side. I only want balance.
I see you as coming to these threads with an unbalanced view. You start these blame threads. If you weren't starting them, it would have been much more difficult for me to form an opinion of you. By posting these new threads I see you as trying to upset the balance.
As I have stated time and time again - I favour neither side. I don't look for the blame in this subject. The only time I post blame, it is to counter what I see as unreasonable logic.
Blame is not the issue here. Blame is not going to solve the problems. But ALL I see you doing is posting blame. Is it so un-natural for me to form my opinion of you from that reasoning?
Originally posted by Peace
i don't care about the land at all, it makes no difference to me, i just want the killing to stop.
What does concern me about Isreal is Likud, and even more so Mossad, why? 65.40.245.240...
Originally posted by Leveller
Then I guess we agree to disagree. The reason I see myself posting so many pro-Israeli points is because there is no balance here. Everyone seems to be pushing the Palestinian point of view. If everyone were pushing Isreal's case, believe me I would post my logic on behalf of the Palestinians.
I favour neither side. I only want balance.
I see you as coming to these threads with an unbalanced view. You start these blame threads. If you weren't starting them, it would have been much more difficult for me to form an opinion of you. By posting these new threads I see you as trying to upset the balance.
As I have stated time and time again - I favour neither side. I don't look for the blame in this subject. The only time I post blame, it is to counter what I see as unreasonable logic.
Blame is not the issue here. Blame is not going to solve the problems. But ALL I see you doing is posting blame. Is it so un-natural for me to form my opinion of you from that reasoning?
Originally posted by David
Many Americans are aware of the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967, which killed 34 Americans. Israel has always claimed that attack was a mistake. The commander of the Liberty and other survivors have no doubt the Israeli action was deliberate and premeditated. The Israelis jammed five out of six communication frequencies used by the Liberty during the attack --almost succeeding in muffling their desperate calls for help.
According to my knowledge...we still shoot spies, right?