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Windows 7 or Microsoft Windows 7 ?

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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Windows 7 Home Edition.

When I start the computer an option to start either Windows 7 or Microsoft Windows 7.

Which one should I use to avoid any win 10 issues.

Done a search of these KBs not found any bad KB updates.


KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)
KB2670838 (The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update
KB2882822 (Very fishy update that just popped up with not enough detail about it)
KB2902907 (Microsoft Security Essentials)
KB2952664 Meant to help users navigate the transition from Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8 and 8.1, and Windows 7 RTM (respectively) to Windows 10
KB2952664 ("Get Windows 10" Assistant)
KB2976978 Meant to help users navigate the transition from Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8 and 8.1, and Windows 7 RTM (respectively) to Windows 10
KB2977759 Meant to help users navigate the transition from Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8 and 8.1, and Windows 7 RTM (respectively) to Windows 10
KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3012973 (Force Trigger Download and Install of Windows 10)
KB3015249 (Adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation + Telemetry)
KB3022345 (Telemetry)
KB3035583 (GWX Update installs the "Get Windows 10" app in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
KB3042058 (Microsoft claims its a security update but it contains Winlogon Spying)
KB3044374 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8 systems)
KB3050267 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this)
KB3064683 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3065987 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3065988 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3068708 (Telemetry)
KB3072318 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3074677 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3074677 (Telemetry)
KB3075851 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3075853 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3080149 (Telemetry)
KB3081437 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3081454 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3081954 (Telemetry Update for Windows 7)
KB3083324 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3083325 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3083710 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 7, see this thread)
KB3083711 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 8, see this thread)
KB3086255 Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1)
KB3088195 (Miscorosft Claims it's a security update but also has a key logger on the Kernel Level)
KB3090045 (Windows 10 Upgrade Update for Windows 7/8)
KB3093983 (Microsoft claims it's a security update but it contains IE spying)
KB3102810 (Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3102812 (Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3107998 (Removes Lenovo USB Blocker)
KB3112336 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3112343 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3118401 Allows Windows 10 dependant Universal Runtime apps to run on earlier versions of Windows.
KB3123862 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7 & 8)
KB3133977 Can cause Asus PCs to freeze
KB3135445 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3135449 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3138612 (Fishy update to for Windows Updates)
KB3138612 (Security update for IE11 which adds Windows 10 preparation.)
KB3139929 (Fishy update for Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 Upgrade) - (Security update for IE11 which adds Windows 10 preparation.)
KB3146449 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7/8)
KB3148198 (Cumulative update for IE11. Includes previous Windows 10 preparation.)
KB3150513 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7/8)
KB3197868 November, 2016 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3197868)
KB3197868 Prevents access to Torrent sites
KB3177725 Microsoft admits to distributing Windows printing bugs
KB3176493 Microsoft admits to distributing Windows printing bugs in KB 3177725 and KB 3176493


All help appreciated - thanks




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:16 PM
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Sounds like you have 2 different installs and one of them 'chose' to enter is as the one title, and the other the other. Which one actually works, and has your usual setup (preferably) should be the way to go.?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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Study BCDEDIT

technet.microsoft.com...(v=ws.10).aspx



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Or the boot loader is buggy. Honestly, upgrading to Windows ten isn't stable.
The good news is, you're likely to quit trying before it works, I've seen very free upgrades break the existing setup.
I've also seen very free actually work.

Back up the stuff you care about. Documents, book marks, etc. Never hurts to have a backup.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: lordcomac

Yeah, probably not what you said. You wouldnt have parallel installs from an upgrade. You could install paralell installs of windows 7 on accident maybe by changing boot loader setting on uefi bios perhaps. But truthfully, i think what most likely happened here is there are two boot options for the same install, and one was created by an optimizer program or something to specify some boot options. Bcdedit is probably the right track. If you edit and see both point to c:windows you have the answer of whether its paralell installs or two diff sets of boot options. If you want to know which one is the factory options, check google search.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 06:30 AM
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i think they are most likely for the same install also, but I'm guessing what happened is at some point Windows7 was either reinstalled over the top of the original copy Windows7 in order too try fix or repair stuff and/or was interrupted before it was completed.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 02:47 AM
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a reply to: ttropia

Thanks for that. I have BDCedit tool so I must have changed something there. Thank you.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: drewlander

I agree and I have a program that does this sort of thing - thank you



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: Azureblue

I have a boot modification tool so I will check that out as I agree that its most likely this program (not knowing what I'm doing) I have made some settings with.

thank you all



posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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Always do a fresh format(full) if your installing a new OS.

And if you are installing Windows 10 make sure it's the Full or Retail versions.

Never do OEM.

A clean hard drive is a happy os.



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: Azureblue

You probably already solved the problem, but for anyone else who finds this thread in the future use msconfig over bcdedit. Msconfig is GUI-centric and probably easier for people who might be scared of the command prompt.

netsquirrel.com...

Once loaded click on the tab labeled "Boot". Next delete the extra unnecessary boot configuration.

Hope this helps someone. :-)



posted on Jan, 30 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: TruthAndHonesty
a reply to: Azureblue

You probably already solved the problem, but for anyone else who finds this thread in the future use msconfig over bcdedit. Msconfig is GUI-centric and probably easier for people who might be scared of the command prompt.

netsquirrel.com...

Once loaded click on the tab labeled "Boot". Next delete the extra unnecessary boot configuration.

Hope this helps someone. :-)


Thank you for that and no I've not solved it yet but I'm geetting close as it seems its cable connection causing the problem.



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