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Nascent Iodine - a miracle supplement must have.

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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originally posted by: skunkape23
This is how the zombie apocalypse begins.


Nah, it was those four black kids torturing a white mentally handicapped kid while shouting about white people and Trump, that was the beginning of it, to use it (zombie apocalypse) as an allegory.

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: Oleman

Of all of the supplements I have studied and experimented with, nothing else comes close to the quality of life improvements I get from 225mcg/wk KI + 50,000iu/wk water soluble Vitamin D.

$14/120count ~ 2 year supply: www.amazon.com...


thanks for your post and contribution. That's a lot of Vitamin D, like 7000iu/day. I've heard that 5000 is good, but that with too too much D it can become toxic.

Sounds like you know what you're doing though.

That thing someone posted earlier (Jiaogulan) which decalcifies the Pineal Gland, that sounded pretty interesting, I'm going to check that out and get it into my smoothies.

One thing I find with the Nascent Iodine is how much more sensitive you become to your environment both without and within, yet strong and energized.

I also suspect that it boosts the utilization of everything else a person might be consuming, and maybe that's why the effects were so powerful in my own experience.

Best,

Ankh

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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I agree with the OP. Nascent iodine is a great supplement. Really helps with energy and flushing out toxic crap. Thats my experience with it.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
Nascent Iodine - a miracle supplement must have.

Every month it's another must have 'supplement', another must try diet, another supermagicfood...
After awhile, they all seem to blend together, with nothing standing out from the pack..
And a year later, new news about how it was actually bad for you...
Ad-infinitum...

I guarantee that you cannot alter the moment of your final breath, no matter what you do.
So, do as you must, it makes no difference whether you eat organic/healthy or suck down batter dipped Twinkies.
If all that drama fills your sails, great! *__-

That you have but a few hours experience, and perhaps a psychological placebo effect, I think you might be a bit 'premature' in your enthusiasm.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: namelesss

I disagree, given the stuff I'd done to turn things around. The Spirit responds to these substances and can dramatically alter in ways that can hardly be described, the well being and vitality of the human being.

Although that said, it applies much moreso to people over the age of 40 when all these essential things start becoming depleted.

When I drink my smoothies, my body and my Spirit rejoices, and every batch I make is like giving myself a new lease on life.

It's like having been kinda of deadish or fading away to being revivified and reborn again.

A lot of people pray for the sick, and that's good, but the Spirit needs certain raw materials to go to work.

It's a free choice.

If people are getting all run down, depressed, lethargic, etc. I understand how that can be turned around.

We are a threefold being of mind, body and spirit.

Unless you're a younger person, you can't expect to make progress in the mind and spirit if the body doesn't have the essential things that it needs.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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You are what you eat.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
When I drink my smoothies, my body and my Spirit rejoices, and every batch I make is like giving myself a new lease on life.

It's like having been kinda of deadish or fading away to being revivified and reborn again.

I might take exception to your implication of causality, but you seem happy enough (over-compensating, from the sound of it) with your belief in your supplements so, why would I want to rain on such a lovely parade? *__-



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Could you explain how running voltage through a iodine mixture is supposed to clear the body of all "toxins" and everything else and make you feel the best thing in the entire world in simply one day?

Your entire post reads as a massive advertisement for Nascent, how many times do you have to repeat that word.

Why is this even in them Health section, should this not be in the Spiritual Section as it's all based on the Inventors "readings" and channeling powers?


Atomidine is a liquid iodine preparation that was recommended as a therapeutic measure in over 600 "readings" (channelled writings) by Edgar Cayce. The manufacturing method is called a "modified detoxification process" which involves a stage in which electricity is run through the substance; the result is "electrified atomic iodine", or "atomidine." The electrification is said to allow the Atomidine to continue to function as an iodine supplement — the original use of detoxified iodine — while also giving it added attributes that affect the immune system.


Atomidine

I believe in the power of the Placebo very much so and believe this is what it is, however your initial post is one big advertisement for the product, including the big shock value review of it magically working in the first day of you taking it, there is no way for you to make those claims unless it literally is magic - if this substance worked as claimed it would take more then 1 day to expel all of these nasty toxins out of your body via excrement, urine, sweat etc etc

Not only that but I also dig a little search through Google with some key phrases of your post and found almost word by word the exact phrases through out other sites advertising Nascent also, it's a little odd.

It is magical Iodine that has had electricity pumped through it, recommended by the inventor through his many readings and channeling.....



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: namelesss

There is a direct causal connection.

You'll know what I mean when you approach the age of 50 or if at some point you begin to lose your "quintessence".

I'm here to report that it can be gotten back again.

It's very good news for people who are suffering.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: MuonToGluon

The quality that separates nascent iodine from all other iodine products is that the diatomic bond is broken with each atom keeping one of the two electrons that had made up the covalent bond.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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im very interested in this topic as i have some health issues that have been troubling me for the last 4 years.


I have tried nascent iodine but im not sure im using it right. I use AJ's X2 and i take 3 drops a day most days, thats about 2 MGs, not mcg's. I have never noticed a dam thing unfortunately.

For a while i was also taking 200 mcg of Selenium a day in tablet form as i have read you simply MUST have it for Iodine to be absorbed and utilized properly. There are websites like stopthethryoidmadness that discuss all kinds of various protocols and regimes...many of them talk about how important co factors are to getting the most out of various supplements. I'm pretty sure most of us are doing it wrong.....there doesnt seem to be any real "BIBLE" of how to do this out there and given the high variability of our genetics and biology there is probably no one size fits all solution.

i will tell you what i DID actually notice was making a slight difference in my energy levels was SAMe with coq10 and bio PQQ. PQQ is super expensive and most the other good supplements for energy are as well. I simply cannot afford all the ones that would probably actually make a difference.

What we need is to figure out how to build what is called a "stack" that targets the body systems we are interested in improving. Body/life hackers have gotten really good at putting these stacks together in different formulas. If you want to do some really interesting reading look up some discussion boards where they discuss NOOTROPIC stacks. Those guys are like freakin chemists....im not kidding. I have a lot of respect for the work total laymen are doing that the "professionals" seemingly have no interest in.

True story. I went to my doc one day and dropped a bottle of PREGNENOLONE on his desk and asked him if he knew what it was. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "nope".

Thats what im talking about. The more i go to the docs the more respect i lose for them. Docs are really good at treating obvious, simple problems that are well known in the literature. They are also really good at recognizing certain symptoms and diagnosing the causes IF those causes are not exotic. I assume that comes from literally seeing tens of thousands of patients over decades and acquiring a "muscle memory" of sorts but in diagnostic terms. They recognize patterns. WEll i can recognize patters really well when i gamble, because im a gambling junky, but when it comes to the more obscure diseases regular docs and even many specialists are profoundly ignorant. Its a huge let down when you realize you have to do this on your own.


Is there a super thread where we can share supplements and things that work for people with various conditions? Theres a thread just started today about chronic fatigue that caught my interest...havent commented on it yet but plan to....


another supplement i just learned about recently and am going to try as soon as i can afford it is called NICOTINAMIDE RIBOSIDE/MONONUCLEOTIDE Its supposed to be pretty badass. If anyone has any experience with it id love to hear about it.

and btw ive tried a crap load of supps as well in my utter desperation of tryin to figure out my health issues.

to borrow Clintons slogan "stronger together".......so lets pool our resources!!!


to your health!



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: namelesss

There is a direct causal connection.

That is quite a claim when science and philosophy can not prove 'causality' at all!
The best that can be shown is 'co-incidence'


You'll know what I mean when you approach the age of 50 or if at some point you begin to lose your "quintessence".

Actually, 50 is no longer even visible in my rear-view mirror.
I don't know what you mean by 'quintessence' and 'losing it', but as I age, I just get 'better', Perspective grows into a larger view of Reality... I age like a fine wine, and am enjoying the Hell out of it!
Quintessence?
As an infant ages into childhood, he loses infant 'quintessence'.
As one gains Perspective, one loses the 'quintessence of ignorance'.
As one matures, one loses the 'quintessence' of immaturity and childishness... (Life BEGINS at 40!)
And anytime anything is 'lost', something is 'gained'!


I'm here to report that it can be gotten back again.

Which of the 'quintessences' that I named can you get back, and why would you want to?
You want to live forever? You think that you can alter the moment of your demise by anything that you can do?
If your 'regimens' make you feel better, for whatever reason, from efficacy of the supplement to a placebo effect, that is wonderful!
It is natural to want to share something that you feel 'works' for you.


It's very good news for people who are suffering.

Buddha had good news for people who are suffering.
Pain is not necessarily 'bad', and the 'suffering' (allowing) of pain can be intense to minimal, depending on the 'belief' and 'attachment' and 'desires'.
Aspirin won't take the place of the practice of Buddha's teaching, but it can make the headache vanish, for the moment.

"Sometimes we get what we want, but we ALWAYS get exactly what we need!"








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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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I was referring to a certain spark and vitality and "life force" might be a way to describe it. I call it a kidlike spirit.

And of course there's a direct correlation between our health and well being and what we feed the body. It's absurd to suggest otherwise or that it makes no difference.

You're fortunate to have aged so well. For some people, they're like the energizer bunny.

But I have to say that there's been a slight snarkiness in your responses, and when I noted by your avatar that you're Buddhist, I have to say that I found it somewhat incongruent
with the style and interaction I've been getting from you.

For some reason, you don't support my sharing or believe that it could be efficacious.

Another thing I've noticed is that I'm sleeping much better and don't require as much sleep, and that it's also improved my dream life, which is nice.

As an experiment, I have a colleague at work who's always spry and chipper and energetic, but for a couple of days I noticed that he was run down and haggard, so I offered it to him and he was up for it. 3 drops in a small glass of water.

Later he said that he got an almost immediate head rush of some kind, and almost fainted, so he didn't want to try it again.. but, he'd come all the way back, that afternoon and since.

As to my superfood smoothies and supplementation - it's completely changed my life.

The human being's body is like a universe unto itself and of course there's a direct correlation between our health and well being and what we put in our body.

In your opinion it makes no difference and might just be a placebo effect...


This raises in my mind, just how absurd it is that hospital food is so bad, or how doctors never prescribe anything but pharmaceuticals.

All the elements and raw materials that make up and drive our body are contained in what we consume and take in, and a standard diet just doesn't cut it.

Many people have the experience of winding down as they age, and while the aging process cannot be avoided altogether, it certainly can impacted and the whole experience of being alive rendered more vital.

I go a step further to suggest that the human being contains a Spirit of infinite intelligence, and that this Spirit can be fed materially.

Anyway, for me it's been like a new light has dawned, although in part that came from another supplement I started taking recently, which is a bioavailable vitamin-mineral complex for the brain which takes away depression.

This stuff just seemed to cause the light that had already dawned to really flare.

It's not a placebo effect.

I don't understand your viewpoint or the attitude, to be honest.

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: tribal

Thanks for your input.

Interesting.

I believe that the solution is in "stacking" or combining but that you don't have to be a scientist to figure out how to achieve the same results or better with a lot less hassle, and I'll explain how to get the breakthrough you've been looking for.

The problem is one of looking for a single, particular supplement upon which one is placing their hopes and I'm beginning to understand why the title I choose for the OP might have rubbed some people the wrong way right out of the gate, because there's usually no single supplement or even a small group of them, that's going to function as a magic bullet of some kind.

It's a whole spectrum kind of thing (stack) and you'll notice as you research that many of these substances are found in smaller levels in food of all kinds, particularly fruits and vegetables as well as various roots and superfoods from around the world, and in many herbs and spices.



But if you go to the doctor and get bloodwork done, whatever you're deficient in might not be showing up, and probably isn't, so the entire medical establishment is of no use to you, and that said, it's always good to go see the doctor and get the bloodwork done.

So what do we do? How can we find it? And if there's no one thing, or small group of things, then we're just SOL aren't we?

Not so fast.

I'm going to just tell you what I do, as a possibility or as a suggestion.

You need to make your own "Alchemical Elixir of the Tree of Life, Superfood, Supersmoothie"

First things first you need a good blender, something with a large "jug" and good power and performance. I got a mid range one on sale at Canadian Tire where I am in Canada, a Black and Decker "Performance Fusionblade" for 125 bucks, although they are typically in the range of 200 and up. Mine's been serving me up smoothies for going on a year and a half now. It's been a great work horse.

Containers for powders: While your shopping for a blender, pick up some seethrough containers of reasonable size that you can stick in the fridge. They are for your powders, like various superfoods, greens, fruitbased powders (high ORAC value, antioxidants). I have three large containers like that, and the stock lasts me for months and months, so with some backup stock in the cupboard, I'm always good to go for about 6 months for my powders.

Next Step: RESEARCH

While making a list of things as you go, comb the net on the subject of superfoods and you'll be pleasantly surprised that many if not most of them can be had in the produce section of your local grocery store. Things like tomato, cucumber, ginger root, avocados, etc etc, celery, lemon, lime, pineapple (everything blended with the skin on, except maybe avocado, even pineapple skin contains a valuable digestive enzyme called bromelain).

Oils also are great, I put in a half teaspoon of 7 different oils in my smoothie including Coconut Oil, Olive Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Grapeseed, Sunflower Seed, Pumpkin Seed Oil.

Also, hemp hearts have a great profile for proteins and amino acids.

So you just start grocery shopping in a whole new way (both at the store, and on the Net), and while it is somewhat expensive, at first, once you get some stock in place, particularly for the exotic superfood powders like Goji Berry Power, Pytoberry (a product by Progressive that I really like as it has them all - very high in antioxidants), Ashwaghanda Power, Macca Powder, etc then it just starts to accumulate and you're all set.

Next up, you want to pick a great protein powder and one that you really like the taste of, that blends nicely. The best tasting one I've found is called PureTrim by a company of the same name. It's a Mediterranean blend with an anti-aging furmula, and their vanilla tastes great, but here anything will do, including brown rice or whey or plant-derived.

I also like concentrated juices that I get at the health food store - adds flavor and the concentrated essence of those berries.

I find, to make the smoothie taste great that you need to find little tricks. I have another supplemental powder called Boost Tea also by Puretrim and it's great by itself in water, but it really boosts the flavor profile of my smoothies (it's intended to boost metabolism). Powdered Vitamin C, the stuff I have also gives it a nice zip.

Liquid vitamins and minerals - I forgot that. I have a giant mason jar in the fridge where I store an accumulation of liquids. Lasts me 90 days or more, as I only drop in about an ounce or so of it with each smoothie. Here, for my "base" I use a vitamin-mineral-botanical liquid called "Daily Complete" also by PureTrim. It actually tastes a lot like concentrated orange juice. It has something like 295 different things in it.


Basically, while we could have a whole thread on this kind of thing only, and I'll make one soon, what we've doing here is throwing the kitchen sink at the problem but when your health returns and you're all back to your better self, you'll just never know what particular thing it was that's doing the trick, but it won't matter, and it's probably no one particular thing in and of itself, but the whole stack.


Edit to add: If you're taking dark green powder or liquid, particularly algaes, ocean veggies, spirulina and chlorella, then you'll never need more than a few drops of the nascent iodine a day or every second day, as we don't want to overstimulate the thyroid.

Also, once your superfood smoothie is "operational" then you can always begin experimenting with the addition of various tinctures, particularly those that support and stimulate your glands and endocrine system.

I also think that regular exercise is a vital component for the proper integration and expression of all this stuff, and to complete the hormone response and amped up metabolism.

The whole idea is that it opens up new domains of possibility, to be, do, and move and function, so that's why I suggest people use this kind of thing as a transformative agent in their lives, so that they themselves end up with a better life and a freer and fuller self expression and human interaction, because that's really what "alchemy" is all about.

Hope you or someone found this to be helpful or of value.

Best regards,

Ankh

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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: namelesss

I was referring to a certain spark and vitality and "life force" might be a way to describe it. I call it a kidlike spirit.

Okay...


And of course there's a direct correlation between our health and well being and what we feed the body. It's absurd to suggest otherwise or that it makes no difference.

Yes! True!
But 'correlation' is not 'causation'.
Very different things.


.. I have to say that there's been a slight snarkiness in your responses, and when I noted by your avatar that you're Buddhist,

No, I am not Buddhist.


I have to say that I found it somewhat incongruent
with the style and interaction I've been getting from you.

Expectations lead to disappointment/suffering.
I make no claims and have 'nothing' to defend.
As far as 'congruence', though, we are more than any single quality.-
Besides, I have no choices in what I write, I write/act/speak as I must.
The 'full picture' is a harmony of incongruent things! *__-


For some reason, you don't support my sharing or believe that it could be efficacious.

As I said, when you think that you find something 'great', the natural/healthy impulse is to want to share it with others.
I have no problem at all with your sharing!
I am simply questioning your premises, that is what philosophers do.
(I do not host any 'beliefs'!)
As far as "could be efficacious", of course that possibility exists.
Again, that is not necessarily 'causality'.
And might also be simply coincidental.


Another thing I've noticed is that I'm sleeping much better and don't require as much sleep, and that it's also improved my dream life, which is nice.

I am hearing that you feel Blessed!
Me too... *__-
I'm glad that you are doing well, at the moment.
Don't fret, it will pass... *__-


... of course there's a direct correlation between our health and well being and what we put in our body.

Already agreed...


In your opinion it makes no difference and might just be a placebo effect...

The context was that there is not anything that we can do to alter a single moment of our existence, including our final breath.
We simply do as we must, and, at this moment, you must do your 'smoothies' and feel great.
The pains and the joys that we experience, in passing, are all transient...
The attempted attachment to the one and the avoidance of the other is what suffering is all about!


This raises in my mind, just how absurd it is that hospital food is so bad, or how doctors never prescribe anything but pharmaceuticals.

As 'they' say; follow the money trail!
Big pharma $ talks!
The average doctor has had less than a single hour's training in nutrition (the 'opposite' of big pharma) in his entire medical schooling!!
Imagine the drugs 'not' being pushed by our 'doctors' if we really did have healthy and informed nutrition!
On the upside, though, my doctor almost killed me with his drugs, a few years back, but I lost about 75 pounds while dying!
And it's still mostly gone!

Bring the end of the world as we know it to a neighborhood near you! *__-


All the elements and raw materials that make up and drive our body are contained in what we consume and take in, and a standard diet just doesn't cut it.

We are more than 'body', more than the series of chemical interactions, more than the microbes and other critters that make up this community that we call 'our bodies'.

All forms of health; mental, emotional, physical, spiritual... is predicated on the ability to Love, unconditionally.

True, unconditional Love is ALWAYS Known by It's unconditional Virtues; Compassion, Empathy, Sympathy, Gratitude, Humility, Charity (charity is never taking more than your share of anything, ever!), Honesty, Happiness, Faith...
ALWAYS!

tat tvam asi (en.wikipedia.org...)


Many people have the experience of winding down as they age, and while the aging process cannot be avoided altogether, it certainly can impacted and the whole experience of being alive rendered more vital.

There seems to be a balance, as the body 'winds down', there are other features that improve, wind-up!
I wouldn't trade what I Know/experience now for the hot bod I had while a youth!
Aging is a SMALL price to pay, and I pay it gladly.
I do eat, and feed Boopsie, as well as I can, as I must.


I go a step further to suggest that the human being contains a Spirit of infinite intelligence, and that this Spirit can be fed materially.

That would be an interesting philosophic discussion, sometime...
Perhaps another thread?
It seems to me that if a 'spirit' (whatever that might be) is fed 'materially', that would negate, definitionally, it's spiritude, no?


Anyway, for me it's been like a new light has dawned, although in part that came from another supplement I started taking recently, which is a bioavailable vitamin-mineral complex for the brain which takes away depression.

This stuff just seemed to cause the light that had already dawned to really flare.

Don't fret, it will pass...


It's not a placebo effect.

You do not know that, that you can say that so definitively!
And even if it were, your good feelings are still there to experience, what do you care whether or not it was a substance, or your own mind when the end results are... 'positive'?


I don't understand your viewpoint or the attitude, to be honest.

That's okay, perhaps you understand a bit, now, though? *__-



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posted on Jan, 13 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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I tried looking up nascent iodine, having not heard of it before. A few quotes that I take Serious issue with:




A defining characteristic of nascent iodine is that it is an atomic form of iodine with an incomplete number of electrons. This gives it an electromagnetic charge. It is also why nascent iodine is sometimes referred to as atomic iodine, monatomic iodine, or atomidine.


www.globalhealingcenter.com...




Biochemically, NASCENT IODINE is consumable iodine in an atomic form rather than a molecular form. It is highly bioavailable as a pure atomic iodine supplement in an energized state. This “charged” state is held by the atom until diluted in water and consumed, whence it gradually loses energy over a 2–3 hour time span.


www.integratedhealth.com...

These two statements are completely contradictory. Iodine in its atomic state is not charged by definition. It is also diatomic. It does not exist as just I. If it were charged iodine, as in I-, it would be part of a salt, in which case you might as well just keep eating the same iodine rich foods and table salt you were before (because that's all you're paying for). Being I- also would mean that it does in fact have a full octet, contrary to the first quote.


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posted on Jan, 25 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Mousygretchen
a reply to: AnkhMorpork


Jiaogulan is a climbing vine that is native to central china. Its nickname is "southern ginseng". It has 90+ saponins. People make tea out of it. It is said to be one of the most powerful medicinal plants on the planet. Similar to the Reishi mushroom and Chaga. It is immuno-modulatory and helps to decalcify the pineal gland. This gained attention after all the people in the villages whom were consuming it all lived to be over the age of 100.



Thanks so much for this referral. My supply arrived today. It will keep me from getting a cold or flu this spring. Love the idea of adaptogenic herbs.







 
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