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originally posted by: stosh64
John McCain claiming Russia has this great propaganda network, yet the U.S. has no such propaganda network.
He says we need a bigger propaganda effort through internet and TV.
The BS is drowning me.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
HasHillaryObama nuked Russia yet?
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: stosh64
They're not talking war they're talking about making sure the message gets across to them that the US will not stand for this kind of attack.
More sanctions and shaming Putin himself will be more like it.
In a blog post on the subject, renowned infosec expert, firewall pioneer and IANS Faculty Marcus Ranum noted the JAR’s detailed account of the methods of APT28 and APT29, two alleged Russian hacking campaigns, were little more than a recitation of typical hacking by typical hackers using typical tools available to most anyone with a connected PC and bad intentions.
“This is how it’s been done since about 2002 or so,” Ranum said of the report’s hacking rundown. “You carpet-bomb a link to a malware dropper, and you get a few gomers, then you see what you’ve caught and exploit the most exciting ones.
“So someone sent someone at a U.S. political party some malware, and they opened it, and some hacker did like every other hacker ever. I’m still waiting to see how and why this is Russians. In fact, the methods described are the exact same methods that the Chinese that hacked OPM, the North Koreans that hacked Sony, [and] the kid down the street use. How do they know this was Russians and not North Koreans?
“I really need to emphasize that this is standard operating procedure,” Ranum added. “The penetration testers that I know use exactly the same techniques, as do the hackers.”
To be sure, some elements of the JAR strain credulity. One has to believe, for example, that well-trained, well-funded Russian cyberwarfare forces have a preference for outdated, off-the-shelf Ukranian-made malware, for example. Incongruities like this set off a firestorm of debate in the infosec community almost as soon as the DHS-FBI report was issued.
As a number of security experts have pointed out, the bulk of the indicators of compromise listed in the slim report (the JAR is 13 pages but eight of those are reprints of basic defense strategies repurposed from previous CERT and DHS papers) are generic, non-specific and hardly indicative of nation-state activity much less proof of Russian involvement.
The JAR’s accompanying CSV lists more than 870 IP addresses that are a mostly useless mix of TOR exit nodes, proxies, virtual private servers and assorted unclassified sites. Another head-scratcher is the report’s mish-mashed list of APT campaigns, malware and vulnerability categories, which the report’s authors refer to as “Reported Russian Military and Civilian Intelligence Services (RIS).” The list conflates hacking campaign names like COZYDUKE and Fancy Bear with malware names such as Black Energy and Twain_64.dll as well as vague kinds of common hacker capabilities such as “Powershell backdoor.”
“In this situation we now have net negative credibility,” Ranum told IANS. “The U.S. government is coasting on the trust that people have built in it. They’re now saying ‘We’re the U.S. government and we have this amazing intelligence community and we say it’s the Russians and we’re not going to tell you anything more.’ Then they provide this insultingly bad information.”
originally posted by: stosh64
originally posted by: DBCowboy
HasHillaryObama nuked Russia yet?
He just wants to throw ROCKS instead of pebbles. I am sure they will work up to using trebuchet or catapult for those rocks soon.mnky
FFS This is OUR government??????
originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: stosh64
The whole Russia Today network costs $300 million worldwide to run,now try to find anything about the cost of the US media-GOOD LUCK
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: stosh64
Umm yeah they do.
🙊🙉🙈