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originally posted by: roaland
Both parties agree that if you take away the individual mandate, the one that gives you a great big fine at the end of the year enforced by the IRS which is 2.5% of your income (i know because i just took a class on taxes), that Obamacare can not survive. So give the people a choice instead of forcing people to spend hard earned money on an overly inflated price for a policy they can't afford to use. And allow the people who still wish to keep enrolled in the marketplace stay enrolled. Until at least something else that actually works can be put in place but for # sake quit taking my federal return just because i can't afford an actual plan....let me keep my money, i work hard enough for it....
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: Profusion
Can we stop the tit for tat and acting like 3 year olds? Why can't they work together on what is best for the American people? Is that really too much to ask?
I do hear you, but from my perspective things have been bad for so long there is simply no common ground left. It has become a war of finger pointing, obstruction, sabotage and shaming.
The Reps did everything they could to make the ACA fail despite what it could do to help people and ignored the fixes that would make it better and more fair for everyone. They did this the past eight years and is too much to ask the Dems now to instantly forgive them.
The ACA has a couple of parts that if fixed by Congress would solve the high premium raises, for example.
Did you know that Congress shorted insurance companies and only gave them 12% of an agreed amount for their risk management funds and so That is why the premiums are going up, not greedy insurance companies? Reps in Congress did not fund this provision in the ACA as they said they would in order to give folks a bad impression of the law.
CONGRESS failed the ACA and the American people, the law itself is not to blame.
So the Reps are at fault for the huge increases which they conveniently blame on everybody but themselves.
Given this, given their lack of care over what pain they cause the people when they can blame Democrats for it, and given they have doe just that, why on earth would the Dems help them out and put themselves in a position to be blamed for whatever goes wrong down the line? Given the treachery they've already experienced, it would not be smart to stick their necks out now.
It is a sad situation and people will get hurt more than they already have been. It will be solely on the Reps when this happens. They can try to blame the Dems for not helping, but really, they can't even decide what to do next.
I'm with you though : I wish they all could grow up.
How are Repubs responsible for a bill that not a single Republican voted for? Democrats own this fustercluck. You guys had control of both houses and passed this bill in the dead of night on Christmas eve using legislative tricks. You could have passed ANYTHING YOU WANTED. Single Payer. Double Payer. Unicorns and Leprechaun healthcare. It didn't matter. The main architect of the bill, Jonathan Gruber called Democrat voters a bunch of rubes and that they purposely "used tortured language" to get you guys to support it.
Sorry, Obamacare is solely on the Democrats.
It needs to be fixed. The entire healthcare market needs to be addressed. Government created this mess with 60 years of intervention. More government is not going to fix it.
Many health care policy experts, however, are rolling their eyes in response.
For starters, many states have already passed laws to allow out-of-state insurers to enter their market. But few insurers opt to do so because of the hard work it will take to build up a network of providers in the new state.
A study that Corlette conducted in 2012 found that states that had passed laws aimed at welcoming out-of-state insurers had produced zero interest from the insurance industry. Not one insurer responded to such laws by selling plans in a new state.
With a national market in mind, it might not be worth it for a Texas-based insurer to try to provide plans to customers in Wyoming.
And if you already can't afford the premiums in a low cost state, you are not going to be able to afford the same insurance from another state. And, you could very well end up not being able to keep your doctor (where have we heard that before), if your doctor is not in the out-of-state ins network but you want that policy.