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Why do the Jews get so much sympathy?

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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:53 PM
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Ok a few things before I start. First I am not sure if this is the correct forum to post this in. If it is not please send it to the correct one if that is possible. Second and possibly most important is that I am not a Jew hater. I know very few jews and the ones I have known have never even for a second gave me a reason to have ill will towards them let alone other of their kind.


As to the question in the topic; Why is it that the jews get so much sympathy for what happened to them during the hollocaust? Not saying that there were not terrible things that happened to them, but I have heard estimates of 1-6mil Jews murdered during that time. That seems so small when compaired to what stallin did to the Russians or what the Japanese did to the Chinese in 6 weeks. Yet these people are mostly forgotten.


An example: If you say Jews are bad you are labled a nazi and you should repent for your comment and possible could face serious personal bodily harm for saying so. However, if you say the Chinese are bad people barely bat an eye (unless they are Chinese I would Imagine).

www.acepilots.com...

the above link has numbers killed during WW2 about halfway down the page.


Just wondering, hope I did not offend anyone I am not trying to.




posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:57 PM
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hmmm...

the way i see it, nobody likes jews...

they were hated for over 2000 years


makes ya think???





posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:00 PM
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The 6 million jews were rounded up because of their religion and they were executed by a fascist dictatorship in the most brutal of ways.

There were also homosexuals, gypsies and the mentally disabled in those camps but they were primarily for the execution of jews. The reason they get the sympathy is because they were executed for their belief system and not for political views held.

Stalin killed his own, as did Pol Pot and Idi Amin and each death is as tragic as the other. The russian peasants worked in the gulags and not executed.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:09 PM
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Perhaps it is'nt sympathy.
It could be partly because of us (the U.S.) being hailed as the brave
heroes during WW2. The rescuers of a people who were being tortured
by a cruel dictator.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that the U.S. was heroic during that era.
My Dad was a WW2 vet and told me some stories.
Maybe we pass along and treasure the memories of heroism and patriotism of that time so much that Jewish people are still an integral
part of it and are kind've still "cherished" in a way because of it.

Just a thought...



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:39 PM
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Its not exactly sympathy. They suffered a great deal. A good example of people that get sympathy are black people. They didnt suffer anywhere near as much.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by AndrewTB
Its not exactly sympathy. They suffered a great deal. A good example of people that get sympathy are black people. They didnt suffer anywhere near as much.


Well sorry to say but I will have to say both suffered greatly, but the two pale in compairson to the Native Americans. Anyway you look at it though, it just sucks what we humans do to each other!



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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I think also because it went on for years, systematic destruction of a whole people - they were blamed for everything bad that happened in Germany. Then Hitler invaded Austria, Poland, Czechlovakia, France, Italy, etc., and hauled these people out of their homes, put them into ghettos. Those who didn't get killed on the streets, were taken to concentration camps in cattle cars...crammed full with no water, food or toilet facilities. Women, children, the sick and eldery were disposed of right away. Only those strong enough to work survived.

And no one did anything about it until 1945....

The first of the camps to be liberated was Auschwitz, by the Russians.

Generations have been affected, the stories keep getting told so that no one forgets.

Because it can happen again. As soon as you start blaming your neighbour for your problems and turning a blind eye to cruelty.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:55 PM
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I don't think that anyone says 'oh, those jerky ukrainians, we don't care that they were sent to death camps too'.

There tend to be more awareness of the attempt at the jewish genocide because the nazis were defeated so utterly and everything was revealed, and because anti-semitism is just plain rampant across the planet, whereas I rarely hear anyone saying 'destroy the ukranians' or 'the slavs must die'.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:10 PM
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The Holocaust happened in Europe, in places that are now easily accessible. Auschwitz is a museum to the victims, as are many other concentration and death camps. Many Europeans visit these places, however the same cannot be said for the 'Killing Fields' of Cambodia or the sites of mass-murder commited by Stalin - these places are still relatively difficult to reach, hence more people know about the Nazi death camps from personal experience than the mass graves of Idi Amin and Pol Pot.

The Jews have been hunted down and murdered for thousands of years. The pogroms spread across Europe and even in the 1800's Jews were leaving the European mainland for London in order to escape persecution. Add to that the Nazi genocide and you have a good reason for sympathising with the Jews.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:47 PM
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Where is this sympathy coming from? You speak as if you are part of a group.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Aether
Where is this sympathy coming from? You speak as if you are part of a group.


Yes - it is called 'Humanity'



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 04:17 PM
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Six Million Deaths by the hands of Nazi's Vs. Controlling World Banks (A.K.A. "The International Jew")



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 04:38 PM
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I have no time for the Zionist Government, they are just a bunch of self serving bastards just like the Bush and Blair administrations. It's the people I am talking about. Those Jews who are being manipulated just the same as the rest of us. Its they who suffer, not the Governments of Jerusalem, Washington or London.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 04:47 PM
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Basically because the holocaust is a well publicized event by Eisenhower and the Americans that is part of our culture today as a lesson on what 'hatred' and 'evil' does. The Jew has milked this certain event in every situation possible and gets away with murder, it's sickening. Anyone who questions the practices of the Jew is immediately labelled anti-semitic and denounced, while the Jews are continuing to directly influence foreign governments and murder Palestinians, but few will say anything about it because of the taboo around the holocaust. While the holocaust was a really evil act, the Jews have actually prospered greatly from this event, essentially in the long run being a good thing for them.

thanks,
drfunk



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:00 PM
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Great comments.

...I suspect the story has been manipulated because it won't go away - so the focus is on the Jews to shift attention away from the Eugenics movement.

...Eugenics was created to prove "scientifically" that the ruling classes were superior in every way - intelligence, creativity, character - and rich because basically, well, they're just better.

...The word Eugenics was coined around 1983, and by 1900 was totally entrenched in world society. ...America had a powerful Eugenics society and nasty Eugenics laws - Hitler copied a 1926 Supreme Court judgment almost verbatim to create legislation for his concentration camps.

...It was never just Hitler, and never just the Jews - but some serious money has been spent to trick us into thinking that's all it ever really was.... and so, Eugenics never went away - it just went underground, mutated into genetics and came back to prove once again that some people are superior while others don't qualify.



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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:20 PM
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In America most sympathy is artificially "generated" through aipac, political and media-influence, in Europe, most post-war sympathy came from a bad conscious, hate for the nazi system and embracing democracy, wich denounces thing such as genocide .

But it also meant that Europeans where the first to lose some of their symphaty, questioning the israeli governments policies in the occupied territories, eventually Europeans got fed up with being labeled anti-semetic by zionists for asking critical questions, but in america it still has some leverage, for the more mere fact that many american jews, as opposed to european jews were able to retain key positions during the war.

The anti-label is mostly a tool of the more extremist school of thought: currently it is heavy in use by UBL and Bush who like to throw around "anti-muslim" and "anti-american", like both potatoeheads, speak on behalve of all muslims or americans wich is clearly not the case, well, al-jazeera and foxnews could maybe look like it.....

It would be great if the current palestine president and Sharon finally manage put an end to this chapter...Hoping for the best, still preparing for the worst...


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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:39 PM
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Hi, guys. Living in Europe I can tell you one thing. As much as people sympathize with Jews for their immense tragedy, we are starting to get a little fed up. It's right to remember, to avoid this happening again, but we are litterally bombarded into feeling guilty about it. Why should I feel guilty? I can feel pity for the poor victims, but I never wronged anybody for his/her religious belief, or race, or sex. I am at peace with myself. I was born in 1976: how could I stop the Holocaust from happening? I can remember, but I will never feel guilty about this, sorry. Moreover what of all the other genocides? Armenians, Hutus, Tutsis, Kaiowas, Cherokees, Tibetans... Are their stories not worth remembering simply because they happened to be on the losing side? Was their pain less significant?



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:47 PM
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...They don't have significant fortune-500 shares nor own western newspapers, so their voice is irrelevant, however, since the Cherokees started making money with casinos, they re-gained political influence in america, I believe they are now rabid Bush pioneers, donating heavy to the GOP while cruising in the Benzo.

[edit on 28-1-2005 by Countermeasures]



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:48 PM
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You know, the way I see it is why would you ask such a ridiculaus question? Your thinking is muddled. And another thing, what the heck does that question have to do with what this site is supposed to be about? If you ask me, I honestly believe you know better and are intentionally looking for trouble. It seems as if you are what I'm learning to understand to be a FRONTSTORMER. Where's the conection with ATS?



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:52 PM
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Frontstormer or not, knowing better or not, looking for trouble or not, I don't know, but I son't see the original starter of the thread using racial slur or heavily pushing an agenda, it's a pretty open for discussion question. The moment we start avoiding questions, we are really looking for trouble....


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