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Chicago Police: 4 in custody after man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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This is disgusting. Not to mention if it was 4 white guys doing this to a black guy the country would be on fire right now. That right there shows a lot.




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555



Who is shrugging it off? I just don't think it has anything to do with this case.


You answered your own question here.



This whole idea of constantly calling real events hoaxes or false flags or staged events is absurd.


Sadly that is the world we live in and is how things operate. I think a lot of stuff being pushed by the media should be taken with a grain of salt, there is an agenda somewhere hidden and that agenda is usually division which is the exact kind of thing this story will cause between people.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Wow, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy yet you do it so easily.

So me saying that they did it for money means it diminishes what the man went through and rationalizes it? How do you figure? Doing something like this can never be rationalized so I don't know where you got the idea that I was trying to rationalize it.

Are you hoping this happens to me and mine? Because if you are then that's on your conscience not mine. I hope you feel good about that, you're no different than the people who did this.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: andrew778

But the scenario you describe happened..the thread on it disappeared though?
Ok here is a story on it..don't mind the source
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

WOW!

I only followed the thread for a few pages last night... and I got a hint of you in the other thread...

You're seriously in here passive-regressively defending those wicked monsters? Why don't you tell us his fault for being white, and quit being bashful about it, already?


originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: IAMTAT

No surprise, CNN is going to create as much outrage as they possibly can from this, they're playing you and you don't even know it. That's what makes me think it was set up, they got paid to kidnap this guy and record it on Facebook so that the media had something to take advantage of.


CNN, as usual, is doing pure damage control by what I've seen so far.


originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: xuenchen

Pretty disgusting but not exactly life threatening. It's horrible what they did but some people have to blow it out of proportion.


HUH? If you had an autistic child and a group of foaming at the mouth savage ugly monsters had him bound for what 48 hours, tormented with threats of violence, cut up with a razor knife, forced to drink toilet water, and then fed unto the Internet live streaming now the kid has to carry that trauma with him publicly for LIFE.... a kid whom has some who knows what wrong with his brain wiring as it was, which you cant even fathom even half of what the as it was the event itself implications to that kid might truly be...

And No Big Deal????

Clearly you have no empathy, and/or have an ulterior motive to defend the thinking that led to it. So quit telling everyone else how they can or cannot react to this social media enhanced barbarism.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

This type of behavior is done against Whites all of the time, only this time it is a big deal because of it being live streamed. There are plenty of videos on the tube of them stripping whites naked etc. Nothing new here. Now the media all of the sudden cares, and even names the victim/perp's race. Weird.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei

So me saying that they did it for money means it diminishes what the man went through and rationalizes it? How do you figure? Doing something like this can never be rationalized so I don't know where you got the idea that I was trying to rationalize it.



I saw your Soros 'paid protestor' comparison, your raw conjecture...

This logic completely falls apart, because the whole reason the Paid Riot Squads were able to get away with all that noise was because they were random essentially anonymous fools out in huge crowds (not to mention the determined legal impunity given the political climate). When you post your face, your faceS up in live streaming social media video, anonymity is over and so is your little theory.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You honestly think I'm defending what happened to this man?

Lol, I would be offended by that but your opinion means absolutely nothing to me now that you say it.

I wouldn't wish something like this on my worst enemy, the implication that I would defend it is baseless. Stop putting words in my mouth.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah, they didn't just "have him" for 48 hours either. He escaped.

There were such loud screams from torturing him that the downstairs neighbors called the cops. Then three of the four went to go kick in the neighbor's door, which allowed him to escape.


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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: Forensick

You seem to know them pretty well, maybe you could get an interview and give all the details. Also, teach me your psychic abilities, that would be awesome.

It is a psyop, it's been going on for years now, a never ending crusade by the media to psychologically manipulate large portions of the population to react in the way preferred.

If they're smart enough to use Facebook then I'm sure they're smart enough to know that what they were doing was illegal and that they would go to jail


You don't need my psychic abilities, you just need to be worldly and stop seeing everything as manufactured. People are not that clever. If you do want my help I suggest taking a psychology course and do some volunteer work say at the Samaritans or similar.

The ability to use Facebook does not make you clever.

If you were really clever and if your motive was to insight racial violence, well, I am not going to give out any ideas but I could think of a number of ways which wouldn't end me plastered all over the Internet and incarcerated.

PS. Are you suggesting they didn't use Facebook? Because the evidence is clear they did and they are in jail? So by your own admission they are as thick as mince.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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The world has gone full on bonkers. I'm 2 blocks north of Detroit and I've had to grow eyeballs in the back of my head. You never know what the hell is going to happen around here. We have a culture of violence in this country that just keeps getting worse and worse. From Dylan Roof to these people in Chicago. There are some seriously sick and twisted people in this world.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What makes you think this HASN'T worked? Look at the outrage and anger, looks like they got what they wanted, how convenient for them.

Are you saying no one has ever been paid to commit a crime and serve jail time for it? If they (the kidnappers) cared about their reputation they would have never live streamed such a blatantly illegal act in the first place.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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I decided to think long and hard about this thread before I posted. I actually visited the young woman's facebook with intentions to tell her how what she did made me feel.

The things that happened to this young man, the words that were spoken by the other people, and just the sheer joy, that the perpetrators of this awful act was showing, made me feel a lot of different emotions. I felt anger. I felt hate. I felt desperation.

When I got to this young woman's facebook, I started reading all the posts that were posted. The actions of this young woman will have everlasting results. Some of the things that were said I agree with. Some I didn't. A lot of racist comments were made. No matter why they were made, it was still wrong. Yes I do believe what they did was a hate crime, with the evidence from the film, but do we really have no control of how we respond to crimes like this?

As I read more and more of the posts, I started feeling ashamed of the things being said to her, even though I did not say them.

So here we are. A nation divided because of politics. The young man that killed those people in church. Remember that? Don't let these things divide us, for that is not us. That young woman is not her race. That young man is not his race. They merely represent a small portion of a young generation that have wondered to far from home.

We are a nation of Mothers and Fathers, and Brothers and Sisters. We cannot stop the hate of others, but we can stop the hate within ourselves. It is not an easy thing to do, as a lot of us know, but if we do nothing and let it continue it will only grow like a weed in the midst of a garden.

Now here we stand, on a precipice. Sure footing is a must to take the right stance. Stand wearily.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You honestly think I'm defending what happened to this man?

Lol, I would be offended by that but your opinion means absolutely nothing to me now that you say it.

I wouldn't wish something like this on my worst enemy, the implication that I would defend it is baseless. Stop putting words in my mouth.


You are denying what happened to this man is real, calling it a psyop and inferring it was a set up film, which all fell apart when the 4 were arrested and the victim was taken to hospital.

It's just 4 evil people bullying a helpless person, regardless of his disability that may even save him further torment as hopefully he doesn't understand it.

I had a male friend drugged and raped by a man, he has never gotten over it, is in and out of hospital and on all sorts of drugs, this crime had a victim and you are insulting him.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

Yes, you're "passive-regressively" defending the 'story', just like how all last year every single thread critical of BLM was derailed to no end, until everybody finally gave up kind of thing. Suuuure, the people doing it (you know who you are) would always say "I'm not defending them", and yet it was the same short list of people every time doing it. While they wouldn't 'directly' support se the boy getting stripped naked, terrorized, beat & drug across the pavement while being laughed at (not to mention filmed & uploaded to the Internet to then live a life of shame for life), they still would stymie all critical discussions about it with blatantly obvious Motivated Reasoning coupled derailment tactics. This is known as Subversion, and subversion is a key primary means by which to disrupt efforts that go against an agenda. Orchestrated Subversion, which I argue is the real reason this "Social Group Warfare (SGW)" that has been spawning these incidents was enacted against US to begin with, but that story would go off topic.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

Have enough money thrown in your face and see what you won't do, especially when you're talking about inner city people who have grown up in poverty most of their lives.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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Wow.
There is an old saying about arguing with some people.
Seems time to take Mark Twains advice.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So you're implying I'm a shill. Talk about a way to 'stymie all critical discussion', you just did it my friend. Good job.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

Well there is a problem in what you posted, we must stop the hate in others.

It is either equality, education, investment or something, incarceration isn't the answer, sure it is for those who commit the crimes, but it does not prevent hate.

Do unto others as you would done unto thee, hiding from it, making excuses, more police, bigger jails isn't going to solve the problem, it's treating the symptom and it need treating much harder, but not without more work and funding on stopping the disease.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

Fountainhead, Stooge, Shill, or Minion (whether witting or unwitting), the results tend to always be the same.
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