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Chicago Police: 4 in custody after man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Yet they are actually outraged about both which works in their (the media's) favor.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Which is the weirdest part of all, that they live streamed it. Why would they willingly give themselves to the police? Only answer I can think of is for money.

Did Soros fund those violent protests? If so, why couldn't he fund this as well?


They live streamed it because they are stupid and did not realize the ramifications.

There is no way in hell this was orchestrated for an agenda.

ETA- Although it will be used for certain agendas.

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

he is blaming racism against black people for why these black people went nuts and did what they did.

basically he is saying that they had a good reason for doing it.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

They didn't know the ramifications? Why would you automatically assume that?

They thought that it was ok to do and that they would get away with it? I find that extremely hard to believe.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Which is the weirdest part of all, that they live streamed it. Why would they willingly give themselves to the police? Only answer I can think of is for money.

Did Soros fund those violent protests? If so, why couldn't he fund this as well?


Hitler filmed his atrocities, there are many examples of people filming themselves speeding, fighting, bullying. They do it because they are stupid and in this case it appears under the influence of something or think they are in the right or filming for posterity.

What it might usually show is a spur of the moment crime that got out of hand, however to be premeditated to take a white disabled boy, even enticing him in by a school mate (no mate) asking him to come round shows it is premeditated and the victim was chosen.

They probably all have a low IQ, they are evil little scrotes who are so insensitive to what hey we're doing filming it didn't matter to them. They believed what they were doing so much they live streamed it.

STOP pretending it is a paid psyop, of course you are free to have your own opinion, even though it is unfounded and there are many examples of dumb criminals filming themselves.


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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

It's not hard to believe at all if you are familiar with the culture and mindset of some inner city young adults.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

yeah they were stupid that`s how they got caught.

The neighbor down stairs yelled through the floor for them to keep the noise down, instead of being quiet they ran downstairs and tried to break the neighbors door down.

I guess it never occurred to them that if you have a bound and gagged kidnap victim in your apartment and are torturing them that it`s not a good idea to try to gain forcible entry into your neighbors occupied dwelling.

so, does it surprise me that one of the women posted a live feed on the internet of the crime while it was happening? NO



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

No, he's saying that technology has helped to spread the awareness of racism and its terrible effects. That's it, nowhere does he imply that it is a bad thing.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

You seem to know them pretty well, maybe you could get an interview and give all the details. Also, teach me your psychic abilities, that would be awesome.

It is a psyop, it's been going on for years now, a never ending crusade by the media to psychologically manipulate large portions of the population to react in the way preferred.

If they're smart enough to use Facebook then I'm sure they're smart enough to know that what they were doing was illegal and that they would go to jail
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

I was a part of this thread from the beginning.

I had to leave last night for the sake of my own sanity and preservation.

WAKE THE HELL UP! FFS!!!

Stop hating!!! Everyone!

Stop the damn hating! Stop allowing your soul to be manipulated!

All the hate and negativity is exactly what is to be expected!

It's what the manipulative forces want from us!!!

Each and everyone of us are guilty for letting events to get the better of our consciousness...

Stop falling for the BS!!!!!

Stop falling for the GD narrative they want us to follow.

It's hard as hell... I'm as guilty as anyone else for falling into the trappings.

Trust your gut and your mind.... don't let the media decide for you!

Own your own thoughts and follow your heart.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

You must have missed the article about the white football player who raped the black disabled girl. Where was the front page coverage for that?

Point is that not just inner city kids act like or do things like this. In fact these types of things probably happen quite often and span all races and upbringings so I don't see the point in turning this into more than it really is. If you think that means I'm making excuses for their actions then read through the thread because that's false.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: loam

I actually thought that something very odd would happen soon regarding the new president and him being white. That maybe some very random acts of violence or things like this would happen because these kinds of mental people seem to use anything for an excuse to do such things.

Horrible to see.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

No. I didn't miss that. But I didn't watch it happen either.
This is not a racial thing for me and I haven't said you are making excuses.
I just don't think these are paid actors like you do.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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Now that the four perpetrators have been charged with the following:

Hate Crime
Aggravated Kidnapping
Aggravated Battery with a Deadly Weapon
Aggravated Unlawful Restraint
Residential Burglary

I would like to add my position on this matter.



No Plea Bargaining


There should be no getting a lesser punishment card if you agree to plead guilty to the charges. Cook County prosecutors are certain to get a conviction on all the charges I bolded above. The have video evidence, the probably have medical reports, impact statements from the parents if not the boy himself.



Fullest Penalties Under the Law.


The harshness of the sentences should be handed out to every single one of them. In 1945 to 1946, the Nuremberg Trials dealt with the issue of "Crimes Against Humanity". From Auschwitz Birkenau to Treblinka, we were witness to the horrors that a man or woman can do to another human being. So exactly what does it take to consider an action of a "Crime Against Humanity", One Life, 10 Lives, 100 Lives, 1,000,000 Lives. If we try to quantize into what is an acceptable number, we lose the ability to fully realize and ultimately lessen the evil done to another human being by another.

At Nuremberg, we did not cottle the perptrators of the Holocaust in the German High Command from Adolf Eichmann to Hermann Göring, we did not try to explain away the evil that they did, we did not leisurely hand out mercy to these people, nor should we do so for this four people. They met, falsely befriend, groomed, exploited the trust of an autistic 18 yr old "Special Needs" boy and ultimately tortured for all to see on a Facebook Live stream, the depravity, the callous taunting, and grisly injuries they could inflict on this innocent and defenseless boy all for the sake of a "blood sport", to gain attention and notoriety from online viewers for themselves.


Perseverance


No one is above the law, the Cook County prosecutors will be certainly preparing the case against these four, but there will be some who will believe that these four are being unjustly targeted, due to racial hatered or hysteria, which is the farthest from the truth. Enshrined in your Consitution as well here in Canada in our Charter of Rights, is the ability to have freedom of assembly and the freedom speech. Yes those that support these four will assemble, yes they will protest, but Cook County prosecutors should not allow themselves or their superiors to be intimidated by those supporters voices because of the fear of what may happen.

The trial should not be speedily done for the sake of political expediency or racial harmony or to protect the sensitivities of a collective few. This is not an issue of race, economic inequality, or social opportunities that are available; this is an issue about morality, depravity that can inflicted on an innocent, be what ever color, nationality, religion or sexual preferences the innocent happens to be.

This is about obligation, commitment and compassion to care for and defend and protect the most vulnerable in our communities, in our nations on all from those that would cheapen, and belittle these very lives that we promise to safeguard from the monster's that lurk in the night and wear the skins of everyday human beings.

If we fail to do so, that all the wars we fought, all the sacrifice we have, for all those that have gone before us, that answered the clarion call of justice, freedom and integrity and offered up their lives to ensure we enjoy these freedoms, safety and respect from then, now and into the future will be for naught. The we all can truly say that that there are monster's truly in the night.




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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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Watch what happen exactly? A girl's face filling the screen for 95+% of the video while briefly cutting over to the dude? I'm sure you've seen videos of people dying on the internet and much worse so what else is new? I don't see the media grabbing every video that shows up on liveleak.

It's manufactured outrage, I'm sure most everyone has seen far worse before, the guy was barely even shown throughout the entire 30 minute video. And no, I'm not saying that what happened to him isn't terrible.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: Blaine91555

I just don't see how you can acknowledge the race baiting in the past by the media yet shrug it off in this case so readily.

Things like this hate crime happen all the time yet the media latched on to THIS one, why? Maybe because it has Trump's name in it, I'm sure it will somehow turn into liberals vs conservatives at some point if hasn't already.

If the media didn't plan this then they are definitely juicing it for all its worth. Using it as a way to agitate the masses and causing division among the people. You can walk between everyone unharmed and unabated if there is a deep canyon separating the two sides.


Who is shrugging it off? I just don't think it has anything to do with this case. Chicago and violence there has been getting huge coverage for years. I think it's getting so much attention because of who the victim is, it was on social media and what was said to the victim. It deserves coverage.

I've yet to see anything in the real news and not on some biased hate site or something, that was not accurate reporting. I don't confuse news with commentary which is always vitriolic from both sides.

This is where we differ -

This thing just screams hoax in my opinion. Nothing but a way for the media to harp on about racism and have people argue and eventually begin to have qualities of a racist themselves.


This whole idea of constantly calling real events hoaxes or false flags or staged events is absurd.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: BigEd1
Now that the four perpetrators have been charged with the following:

Hate Crime
Aggravated Kidnapping
Aggravated Battery with a Deadly Weapon
Aggravated Unlawful Restraint
Residential Burglary

I would like to add my position on this matter.


So these would be the dumbest criminals of the year award, already the first week of it!

Just imagine it:
You and your heathen buddies, back when you were all just turned 18-19, let get some Smirnoff and a 8B, party, then... 'Hey, I know, lets go do an armed robbery, and live stream it and do shout outs on Facebook while pistol whipping the cashier and loading the ATM machine into the back of the minivan!!'



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

Yes, the simplest answer is likely true..they are that stupid.. on top of everything else they are, the social media training works.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: LumenImagoDei

They see BLM get away with violence and riots all the time.

They see Obama praising the BLM terrorists and promoting the myth of an epidemic of blacks being murdered by white cops.

It is very easy to conclude that they not only had no fear of punishment, they thought they would be seen as heroes by fellow subscribers to the BLM ideology.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: c2oden

Watch what happen exactly? A girl's face filling the screen for 95+% of the video while briefly cutting over to the dude? I'm sure you've seen videos of people dying on the internet and much worse so what else is new? I don't see the media grabbing every video that shows up on liveleak.

It's manufactured outrage, I'm sure most everyone has seen far worse before, the guy was barely even shown throughout the entire 30 minute video. And no, I'm not saying that what happened to him isn't terrible.


I can't believe you are openly diminishing and rationalizing this brutal crime.

May it happen to you and yours so that you may finally see.
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