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Chicago Police: 4 in custody after man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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I just want to point out that since the election, the only verified stories of political/hate crimes that I've read have been against Trump supporters. Every other story has been a hoax perpetuated to make us look bad.




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: PsionicOmniverse
Idaho?


Idaho. It's not exactly Washington DC, or New York. Not a metropolitan state, not cultural representation of America. Lot's of inbred cultist Mormons, after Utah probably the most Mormon concentration in the US. Who if they aren't taking their children to worship Joseph Smith or Warren Jeff's are probably inviting homeless carpenters to their homes to abduct their 14 year old daughters in the name of Christian charity, or boffing their own flesh and blood as was the case for one Mormon.

It's kind of backwards state. You can't publish stories about states which could pass for 3rd world countries in some respect having the high cultist rural population that it does, and pass that off as a generalization for American justice standards. Each state has its own laws and form of justice. Only some areas of law and justice are administered by the federal government.


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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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When Obama won the KKK didn't kidnap and torture blacks. In today's world BLM supporters have become more extremist than the KKK... let that sink in.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: Martin75

I use ATS as my news site mostly I would have been outraged...but I do not think it got as much press time.
But it does show that people saying If it was a white guy doing it against a black mentally disabled person there would be riots are actually wrong.

But see you prove my point. If people knew about it then things night have been different...but you don't know. No one posted unless I am just not finding it in the search.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: loam

I can see FEMA camps and a strong military (to enforce marshal law) are going to become very handy to clean out the streets of scum and filth of society.

#BLM?How about #youdosomethinglikethisand yougotojailforalongasstime
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
When Obama won the KKK didn't kidnap and torture blacks. In today's world BLM supporters have become more extremist than the KKK... let that sink in.


Like I said before racial coveting. "I feel that I am inferior because of my race and use selective information processing to reinforce my beliefs of inferiority."

This generates the violent response, and why they should begin teaching psychology at an early age. Japan is interesting, they teach manners and ethics. American children unlike Asians tend to focus on domineering versus respect like Asian children. This further exacerbates the problem of racial divides.




upshout.net...



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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too bad we couldn't send these kids off to a mental institution for a few decades, without the possibility of being declared sane and let loose early. I think that would send the best message. if you treat other people like this, society should automatically label you mentally unstable and put you away for long, oh so long, treatments of strong drugs and possibly lobotomies!! and to be honest, I think the girl is probably the craziest of them!

I don't care what race anyone is. I don't care weather it's considered a hate crime or not. these guys are mentally ill and need to take a nice long, oh so very long vacation in some mental hospital!



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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It's because our culture is mostly revolving around sports and other competitive entertainment exercises. When you have a population of young people always competitive against one another, why would you be surprised when they grow up and don't want to help anyone else out but themselves get ahead?

We don't teach compassion, we don't teach unity, we teach how to be cut-throat and how to tattle tale on one another or how to go online and get assurance through other's listening to our rants online and agreeing blindly with us.

We have a nation of selfish-spoiled babies who don't look at their fellow men and women as equals but pawns to overcome and step on to get to the top.

We watch as our Government portrays this same mentality in the form of a 2 party bully system, where instead of coming together as intelligent elected officials who represent their constituent point of views and interests, they instead bicker and act like little kids who didn't get what they wanted for xmas and throws a fit.

We've either been trained to become the servants of this world or the entertainment, because when a people stops seeing one's self as just that and not separate groups based on skin color and economic value, we've done nothing but ruin our future and any chance we had at evolving.

Learn to be human 1st, then an American second.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: Konduit
When Obama won the KKK didn't kidnap and torture blacks. In today's world BLM supporters have become more extremist than the KKK... let that sink in.


Like I said before racial coveting. "I feel that I am inferior because of my race and use selective information processing to reinforce my beliefs of inferiority."

This generates the violent response, and why they should begin teaching psychology at an early age. Japan is interesting, they teach manners and ethics. American children unlike Asians tend to focus on domineering versus respect like Asian children. This further exacerbates the problem of racial divides.




upshout.net...


Your using one of the racially homogeneous nations on the planet to prove your point? So maybe we SHOULD segregate?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Kuroodo


originally posted by: Kuroodo
Sorry if already mentioned and discussed, but CNN said (their sources being the investigators) it wasn't a hate crime... They targeted the guy because he was mentally challenged.


Except that under Illinois and federal law, mental disability is one of the categories that is applicable to a hate crime.




(720 ILCS 5/12-7.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 12-7.1)
Sec. 12-7.1. Hate crime.
(a) A person commits hate crime when, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability, or national origin of another individual or group of individuals, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factor or factors, he commits assault, battery, aggravated assault, misdemeanor theft, criminal trespass to residence, misdemeanor criminal damage to property, criminal trespass to vehicle, criminal trespass to real property, mob action, disorderly conduct, harassment by telephone, or harassment through electronic communications as these crimes are defined in Sections 12-1, 12-2, 12-3(a), 16-1, 19-4, 21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 25-1, 26-1, 26.5-2, and paragraphs (a)(2) and (a)(5) of Section 26.5-3 of this Code, respectively.

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The Situation at the Federal Level

The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (Matthew Shepard/James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act) was signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009. The law adds sexual orientation, gender identity, gender, and disability to the categories included in existing federal hate crimes statute.

The Act strengthens existing federal hate crime laws in the following ways:

• It expands the law to authorize the Department of Justice to investigate and prosecute certain bias-motivated crimes based on the victim’s actual or perceived sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability. Before this law took effect, only race, color, religion or national origin were considered in hate crime determination.

• It eliminates a serious limitation on federal involvement under the previous law, which required that a victim of a bias-motivated crime was attacked because he/she was engaged in a specified federally-protected activity such as voting, serving on a jury, or attending school; and

• It adds “gender” and “gender identity” to the Hate Crimes Statistics Act.

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This is just so typical of the behavior of many on the left...and most certainly the morons at CNN. They claim to be for truth, equality and justice, except when it runs against the truth, equality and justice they find more important than others.

Both Illinois and federal law include mental disability as one of the classes protected under hate crime law. Thirty seconds of searching by any journalist or pundit would show this. But because they are so afraid of the racial and political implications, they are willing not only to divert attention to the victim's disability, but then to widely and incorrectly report that because of it, it somehow invalidates any possibility of a hate crime assertion.

Apparently, people with mental disabilities just need to STFU, because the leftest narrators don't want people to know they are equally protected under hate crime legislation when the situation also happens to contain the wrong racial or political implications.

Oh, and as revealed by the Chicago Police Department last night, apparently there is now a 'stupidity' exception to hate crimes.

You just can't make this stuff up.



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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
It's because our culture is mostly revolving around sports and other competitive entertainment exercises. When you have a population of young people always competitive against one another, why would you be surprised when they grow up and don't want to help anyone else out but themselves get ahead?

We don't teach compassion, we don't teach unity, we teach how to be cut-throat and how to tattle tale on one another or how to go online and get assurance through other's listening to our rants online and agreeing blindly with us.

We have a nation of selfish-spoiled babies who don't look at their fellow men and women as equals but pawns to overcome and step on to get to the top.

We watch as our Government portrays this same mentality in the form of a 2 party bully system, where instead of coming together as intelligent elected officials who represent their constituent point of views and interests, they instead bicker and act like little kids who didn't get what they wanted for xmas and throws a fit.

We've either been trained to become the servants of this world or the entertainment, because when a people stops seeing one's self as just that and not separate groups based on skin color and economic value, we've done nothing but ruin our future and any chance we had at evolving.

Learn to be human 1st, then an American second.


Maybe there would be less competition if we lived amongst our own kind?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: tigertatzen

This post is one of the most ridiculous and delusional I've read in this thread.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter
So maybe we SHOULD segregate?



Not based upon ethnicity, or race.

Various religions should probably have separate school systems.

And even within those lines I think people probably need separation based upon intelligence and personality. Behavior. Start the process early before adulthood. Relocate people by state according to their own personal attributes.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: tigertatzen

This post is one of the most ridiculous and delusional I've read in this thread.




You have to wonder about that persons sanity after reading that.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: Tempter
So maybe we SHOULD segregate?



Not based upon ethnicity, or race.

Various religions should probably have separate school systems.

And even within those lines I think people probably need separation based upon intelligence and personality. Behavior. Start the process early before adulthood. Relocate people by state according to their own personal attributes.


So, instead of free association you want to forcibly move people based on their "personal attributes", but not including race?

Why not? If it's the most effective, why not?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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Kinda scary and morbidly fascinating to see a group of people setting up their own genocide.

War is coming.

ALS



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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I am hearing these four are BLM supporters.
Rumor has it BLM's website is about to get a massive DDOS attack.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Thill

Watched a lot of Soterrmayor's vids. He's spot on. This one seems rushed though not his usual quality. Guess he wanted to respond to the story quickly. Nice though to hear a black American saying it how it is (or apparently is I'm not American I don't know the reality over there)



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: loam

while I see the need to protect the handicapped person more, since they might not have the mental ability to detect a threat as well as others and be more trusting...
I have to ask..
why shouldn't someone who treated another person, of the same race, of the same mental compacity, ect.. in this way not be treated by the criminal system with equal vengence as these people should be? or to put another way to treat anyone in such an inhumane way should result in such severe penalties, anything added to those penalties wouldn't mean much anyways.




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