Chicago Police: 4 in custody after man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live

originally posted by: dreamlotus1111

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: testingtesting

You're right and I'm derailing. I wish I knew the answer but I don't. Step 1 has to be making people take responsibility for their actions.

and calling them animals and thugs. and obama the devil. way to go! you're so good at this

Yes, let's keep the politics out of it, even though the kind young men in the video brought it up.

But I can't see how anyone can see these fellows as anything but animals and thugs.

a reply to: Tardacus

So what happens next?>

ATTENTION!!!!

Let's quit bickering and pointing fingers.....Go After the Ball, Not the Player!

Bickering and squabbling solves nothing.

Also......The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS



and, as always:

Do NOT reply to this post!!

a reply to: Rezlooper

It's still a HATE crime in Illinois and by federal law:

(720 ILCS 5/12-7.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 12-7.1)
Sec. 12-7.1. Hate crime.
(a) A person commits hate crime when, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability, or national origin of another individual or group of individuals, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factor or factors, he commits assault, battery, aggravated assault, misdemeanor theft, criminal trespass to residence, misdemeanor criminal damage to property, criminal trespass to vehicle, criminal trespass to real property, mob action, disorderly conduct, harassment by telephone, or harassment through electronic communications as these crimes are defined in Sections 12-1, 12-2, 12-3(a), 16-1, 19-4, 21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 25-1, 26-1, 26.5-2, and paragraphs (a)(2) and (a)(5) of Section 26.5-3 of this Code, respectively.

Link.

The Situation at the Federal Level

The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (Matthew Shepard/James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act) was signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009. The law adds sexual orientation, gender identity, gender, and disability to the categories included in existing federal hate crimes statute.

The Act strengthens existing federal hate crime laws in the following ways:

• It expands the law to authorize the Department of Justice to investigate and prosecute certain bias-motivated crimes based on the victim’s actual or perceived sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability. Before this law took effect, only race, color, religion or national origin were considered in hate crime determination.

• It eliminates a serious limitation on federal involvement under the previous law, which required that a victim of a bias-motivated crime was attacked because he/she was engaged in a specified federally-protected activity such as voting, serving on a jury, or attending school; and

• It adds “gender” and “gender identity” to the Hate Crimes Statistics Act.

Link.

So how does anyone, let alone the Chicago Police Department, utter the words this may have been 'just an act of stupidity done by kids' or motivated 'by just his disability'?????

The freaking state and federal laws cover disability and neither has a stupidity exception.

a reply to: LumenImagoDei

Never underestimate the power of stupidity and ignorance when coupled with the passion of HATE.

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys squabbling is not going to solve anything is it?.
Why not come up with ideas to help solve the mess eh?.

Kill the animals that do this.

Kill them.

Hate to be "that guy".

But kill them.

Quickly.

a reply to: loam

But they were just using slang when they said 'F white people'.
It meant that they love everyone equally and show the love by making them drink toilet water and beating them.

You can't charge them with hate crimes.

a reply to: dreamlotus1111

Do you have another name for people who would do something like this? "Animals" fits very nicely and that's an insult to animals.
Instead of making pathetic bullsh** excuses for what was plainly a hate crime, why not condemn anyone who would treat another like this?
Or does that not fit your agenda?

a reply to: loam

well, if Chicago law enforcement wants to embarrass themselves and say it isn`t a hate crime maybe Trump`s justice department will pick up the ball and run with it.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: DBCowboy

I don't think anyone will make excuses for them.

People in this very thread are already doing just that.

Or remember the things they do on the MSM to hide and downplay these sort of things:


To make it look like a white on black hate crime instead of a black on black crime.
Or did you forget?

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Rezlooper

It's still a HATE crime in Illinois and by federal law:

(720 ILCS 5/12-7.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 12-7.1)
Sec. 12-7.1. Hate crime.
(a) A person commits hate crime when, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability, or national origin of another individual or group of individuals, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factor or factors, he commits assault, battery, aggravated assault, misdemeanor theft, criminal trespass to residence, misdemeanor criminal damage to property, criminal trespass to vehicle, criminal trespass to real property, mob action, disorderly conduct, harassment by telephone, or harassment through electronic communications as these crimes are defined in Sections 12-1, 12-2, 12-3(a), 16-1, 19-4, 21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 25-1, 26-1, 26.5-2, and paragraphs (a)(2) and (a)(5) of Section 26.5-3 of this Code, respectively.

Link.

The Situation at the Federal Level

The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (Matthew Shepard/James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act) was signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009. The law adds sexual orientation, gender identity, gender, and disability to the categories included in existing federal hate crimes statute.

The Act strengthens existing federal hate crime laws in the following ways:

• It expands the law to authorize the Department of Justice to investigate and prosecute certain bias-motivated crimes based on the victim’s actual or perceived sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability. Before this law took effect, only race, color, religion or national origin were considered in hate crime determination.

• It eliminates a serious limitation on federal involvement under the previous law, which required that a victim of a bias-motivated crime was attacked because he/she was engaged in a specified federally-protected activity such as voting, serving on a jury, or attending school; and

• It adds “gender” and “gender identity” to the Hate Crimes Statistics Act.

Link.

So how does anyone, let alone the Chicago Police Department, utter the words this may have been 'just an act of stupidity done by kids' or motivated 'by just his disability'?????

The freaking state and federal laws cover disability and neither has a stupidity exception.

Glad you showed this. Awesome point. Just proves they have to downplay this. No matter what they should be charged with hate crimes. If it were the other way around, there would be no question.

a reply to: everyone

I almost forgot about that one. Thanks for the memory jogger.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys squabbling is not going to solve anything is it?.
Why not come up with ideas to help solve the mess eh?.

Kill the animals that do this.

Kill them.

Hate to be "that guy".

But kill them.

Quickly.

Yep. Animals. Just like when a dog has rabies. They are a danger to society.

originally posted by: TheBulk

They already spinning.

TIL that "f@%k white people" = f@%k disabled people.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys squabbling is not going to solve anything is it?.
Why not come up with ideas to help solve the mess eh?.

Kill the animals that do this.

Kill them.

Hate to be "that guy".

But kill them.

Quickly.

Indeed, enough with the "mint tea and vegan sandwich get-together's" to come up with ideas for solutions AKA create a slogan you can wear saying you denounce it. First off it is time to call it for what it is , I am looking at you CNN,MSNBC and all you other ridiculous fraudulent "news" channels".

a reply to: loam

Our nation is sick. Our young have been misguided by an utter lack of real leadership at the helm nationally, locally, and, worst of all, at home.

Serious consequences for deviant behavior or lacking effort no longer happen, hell, all you need to look at is the invention of the "participation medal".

We have no one to blame but ourselves...

spit.