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reply posted on 25-6-2003 @ 09:04 AM by Bout Time
Originally posted by Leveller
The problem as I see it is that you are kept in the dark about US plans to shape regions abroad.
Most of the negative posts on this board are shaped by confusion.
What confusion? They said it loud to Clinton & signed their names to it before Bush was even placed in office. Their intentions have been crystal clear all along - control the water/control the oil/control the region & the world....can't be simpler
www.sundayherald.com...

My major worry is that things are going to get worse before they get better because of the very nature of the war that we are fighting - not necessarily physically, but in our minds because of the confusion that is being created.

But look at it this way: Confusion is a weapon against the enemy. If you guys don't know what is going on, then you can be damn sure that neither does the enemy.
But these fundamental applications of Sun Tzu are also hoisted on the American people; actually, we are strategized against first because we are the base of power...the world comes second. We will be "attacked" again prior to the elections of 2004, fear mongering is crowd control; since talent, morality, intelligence and vision are lacking in this president........perpetual fear is a great substitute.
The confusion issue is something we agree upon - people need to understand that this USURPER will come to my city for a convention and practically stand on the bodies of fallen Americans in order to control a perception......THAT you should all no longer be confused by


I would suggest holding fire for a while on the revolution talk. You could be fighting against your own freedom. Freedom in the context of "Free Range Chicken", huh? Clucky runs the yard but stills ends up Deep Fried with bisquits......same result as the factory cousin......understand the propaganda: Terror from the White House is the only one that will dismantle our freedoms.


Sleep On, Sleep On, In The B43 Matrix

The common Republican in the street, the common Republican on the farm and the ranch, the common Republican working in the factory or in the service sector is not and will not benefit from the policies of the cabal in Washington D.C.

The common Republican is simply the latest dupe in the con of a one-party system masquerading as two. Politics is the art of persuasion and modern propaganda is the science of mass persuasion. The FCC has ruled so as to concentrate the access to the technology of mass persuasion.

The cabal has persuaded many citizens to follow a war policy for the most shoddy of reasons understanding that nothing brings a social group together like an external threat; and clearly understanding that the leader who challenges the threat - more or less successfully - will be viewed as the horse to bet on.

The cabal has persuaded many citizens that legislation and Executive Orders clearly and unabashedly aimed at dismantling the social services infrastructure of national and state government by wreaking national economic havoc is in their immediate best interest. The slop from the tax cut isn't going to return the economy to any form of health. Unfortunately too many people have too much debt and as interest rates begin to rise during the initial 'recovery' the debt will start to crush the common Republican.

The cabal is attempting to redraw congressional districts in Texas simply to increase the Republican majority in the U.S. House. Including such districts as one that will stretch in a slender strip from Austin to the Mexico border - some 280 miles.

The cabal has largely deleted the global warming assessment from its own EPA report on the state of the environment.

The cabal, largely populated by people who claim to think the government can not do anything right, trust it to not take innocent lives via the death penalty. B43 was the killingest governor in the history of Texas, and could well oversee more federal executions than any President in history.

The cabal has now destabilized Afghanistan and Iraq and has not evinced interest in committing the resources needed to rebuild those areas and give them a serious opportunity to develop anything other than an increased distrust and disdain for the U.S.

Please understand that B43 and the cabal are not here to take care of you and make your lives more comfortable and secure. Their interest is in using your energy to fuel the continued accumulation of power and material wealth by the cabal.

This is no conspiracy theory, simply a summary of facts available to all. Wake up or sleep on fitfully in the Matrix of B43!


reply posted on 25-6-2003 @ 09:47 AM by astrocreep
"The common Republican in the street, the common Republican on the farm and the ranch, the common Republican working in the factory or in the service sector is not and will not benefit from the policies of the cabal in Washington D.C. "

That is one thing we agree on Bout Time.. The people in this country will never benefit from government only have varying degrees of punishment for success.


"The cabal has persuaded many citizens to follow a war policy for the most shoddy of reasons understanding that nothing brings a social group together like an external threat; and clearly understanding that the leader who challenges the threat - more or less successfully - will be viewed as the horse to bet on. "

I don't think this is a big secret in political strategy..



"The cabal has persuaded many citizens that legislation and Executive Orders clearly and unabashedly aimed at dismantling the social services infrastructure of national and state government by wreaking national economic havoc is in their immediate best interest. The slop from the tax cut isn't going to return the economy to any form of health. Unfortunately too many people have too much debt and as interest rates begin to rise during the initial 'recovery' the debt will start to crush the common Republican."

I don't know about that since B43 is set to sign the greatest increase in social entitlement programs in 40 years...something I'm not too happy about, personally.

"The cabal has largely deleted the global warming assessment from its own EPA report on the state of the environment. "

Finally!! Science ahead of politics for once. Global warming has been debunked and is only a political tool used by people with little understanding of what they even say....and yes, here's the link to the research to prove it..again..

www.cfa.harvard.edu...


"The cabal, largely populated by people who claim to think the government can not do anything right, trust it to not take innocent lives via the death penalty. B43 was the killingest governor in the history of Texas, and could well oversee more federal executions than any President in history. "

Not sure what I feel about the death penalty...just glad its not my job to condemn...but i don't think any governor gives out death penalties either. I think thats the job of the courts. I guess there are really heinous crimes that warrant it...I know breaking into my home gets an automatic death sentence if I catch ya.

"The cabal has now destabilized Afghanistan and Iraq and has not evinced interest in committing the resources needed to rebuild those areas and give them a serious opportunity to develop anything other than an increased distrust and disdain for the U.S. "

Good, then we feel the same way about each other..Here's a good idea, fly another plane into a building...that'll make us go run and hide. Timne for new strategy against the US..our appeasement days are over..I hope.

"Please understand that B43 and the cabal are not here to take care of you and make your lives more comfortable and secure. "

Its never been government's job to take care of me and make my life more comfortable. Thats my job and I'm not guaranteed a cushy life for doing no more than being born. Government's job is to guarantee that I keep the liberty to work and have access to the fruits of my labor..something that it hasn't done in my lifetime. Governments job isn't to take from those who put forth effort and distribute it to those who don't..but that seems to be its main premise now.

I agree with a lot of what you've posted here what I don't agree with is your inability to see the same policies set forth by the opposing party as well.


reply posted on 27-6-2003 @ 12:37 AM by phoenix_cross
the fool or the fool who follows him.

so tell me, why are you here? is it to broaden your knowledge of the truth, you've been TOLD all of your life, or is it to come and defend that truth no matter what proof against it you see? if my thinking is idiotic, then so is the thinking of a lot of people here, cos i think the same way as they do, that there needs to be change. tell me, what is the purpose, of our lives today? for me, it is to be an obedient well disciplined student, so i can be indoctrinated in to the conformisy consumer culture, without problem, for those in college, it's to gain skill knowledge, a specialty that they can use to chase the mighty dollar, the system to which we are the slave.

what is the purpose of law but to control, when the control brings safety in front of freedom, then it is tyranny, that is what we inch closer to everydy, sorry for beating a dead horse, but the patriot acts. if say, a person with intent of abuse of power, and don't try to say we don't have crooked politicians, cops etc... here in america, we all know it, you do too, could easily, frame, and erase an opponent from being, or if not, make him suffer for a long time, for nothing. these powers could also be manipulated by fema and the military and other powers that we see as working for the good of the people.

the truth is, we need to know the truth.
to do this, there must be revolution. revolution is change. not always having to be a bloody coup d'etat.

we will not replace the current system with one just as corrupt. the world needs a strong unifying force, with a good intent, not a bad one, like so much bad garbage out there today, un, nato, eu, america, illuminati and stuff, they don't help, if they do, there is still suffering, worldwide.
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