a reply to: sputniksteve
But that's exactly how false memories work. They don't come from nowhere, they're based off something. Like how i remembered the wrong actor in
Scrooged. I didn't think it was a lady playing the part. I didn't think it was a different race, nor did I forget the actor existed. Everything
that I've seen on this has been /easy/ mistakes. No one here thought that they were confusing Barbara Eden for Sinbad. If everyone had /different/
memories, like if one person remembered Sinbad, another remembered Eden, and a third remembered Williams, /that/ would be odd. If everyone makes an
easy mistake, and then talks to other people who made that same mistake (because it was easy to make and would be statistically the most common) they
get a confirmation bias and continue to think that they're right until they look it up.
We actually see this all throughout history. Fairy abductions were common (think Rip Van Winkle, Sleeping Beauty, and those kids who fooled an entire
generation with paper cutouts) until the cold war and the Sci Fi movies in the 1950s. Now fairy abductions are rare, but alien abductions are common.
People who experience sleep paralysis NOW think it's aliens, because they are more familiar with aliens and it's a common thing that their brain can
pull from. If you look at a person's background, you can predict whether they'll blame their abduction phenomena on aliens or /demons/, which is the
second most common. What we WOULDN'T expect is someone in this day and age saying that they were carted off by fairies. And what we REALLY wouldn't
expect is someone being carted off by a new, never before heard of creature.
Just like we would expect a large group of people to misremember this movie with Sinbad, for the reasons that I listed in my prior post. Similar time
frame, same sex, same race, Sinbad has a name that people can easily associate with genies, etc. It's a mistake we would expect. No large group of
people remembered something that was completely /ridiculous/, which is what we would expect if it /wasn't/ just misremembering. It fits neatly into
what we would expect.
Like, here's another example with the alien thing. Most people with abduction phenomena not only report /aliens/, they report the same type of alien,
the pop culture grey alien from cartoons, from movies, they get abducted by Paul from Paul. They /don't/ get abducted by sprites from Rainbow Brite,
even though those are also aliens, because it isn't ingrained into their mind that Sprites abduct people. In fact, Sprites are easily enslaved to
mine color crystals and won't union even a little bit. With that in mind, I'll tell you that I'm from Kentucky. Close to Hopkinsville. There's a
town down the road from me that is a popular tourist spot, because a family was attacked by aliens. They were NOT attacked by greys. They were not
attacked by reptilians. They were not attacked by any alien that we would /expect/ a group of drunk rednecks to say they were attacked by. This
gives the experience a smidge more credibility, because this is not the sort of thing that you would expect the human brain to make up, either
intentionally or subconsciously. /That's/ when something becomes interesting.
I decided to research the Mendella effect because of a /completely different and incomprehensible/ human skeletal structure that one person remembered
and drew. It was nothing like one would expect, having been raised with the skeleton inside of /me/ and inside of each of you. It was the
Hopkinsville alien of human anatomy. /That/ is interesting. This is just kind of... people misremembering what actor was in a movie in exactly the
was we would expect people to misremember a movie. This is just a brain doing what it does in a healthy human being.
Like look, here's another one that I've not seen on the forum anyway, a movie one. When I was younger, every easter my brother and I would watch the
old WIllie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. The one that didn't stick to the book as closely and starred Gene Wilder. There's a scene that I thought
I remembered in our old VHS copy, and the scene still exists in the movie, wherein Wonka takes his tour through a tunnel of nightmare fuel. Now, I
remember that in that tunnel, there is a group of #ed-up # flashing in the background. At one point, I thought I remembered a nude woman, shown from
roughly the neck to just below the belly button, with a ball python crawling down her torso. I love animals and even remember the /breed/ of the
snake. That's not in the movie. I thought, "perhaps they cut it out of the DVD release, because it had boobies in it". But no, it was never
Now, I can tell you why I thought that. I grew up in the Bible Belt. I'm familiar with biblical imagry. When I see #ed up #, my brain goes, "women
and snakes are #ed up, you've been taught that your entire life" so it put in a flash of a woman, reduced to a secondary sexual characteristic, her
torso that cannot be mistaken for male, and the snake that I was the most familiar with. That symbolism meant something to me, and it was a scene
meant to be #ed up. When I realized that it wasn't in the move, I knew why I was wrong.
Here's the thing about that. I realized it /wasn't/ in the movie because as an adult, in my 20s, I was watching the movie on some streaming site,
with my boyfriend, and I mentioned that the flash of the woman and the snake was not in the scene, and he, who had obviously never seen the VHS copy
from my childhood. He was in fact, a little older than me, and had been a child and seen it in the theater. He had seen this movie hundreds of
times. /AFTER/ I said that, he said that he remembered it to, and said that they probably cut it out, because of the nudity. The /after/ is
important here. He didn't pull it out of the either. He didn't say anything, and I daresay he didn't "remember" that scene at all, prior to me
mentioning it. What happened was, I said that, then his brain went, "That does fit in perfectly with this scene, she's probably right. You're in
love with her and have a bias to believe any stupid thing she says" and then his brain rewrote that memory. He genuinely does remember it now. He
did not remember it before I planted that memory.
Literally if someone had told me that Sinbad played the Genie in Kazzam, I would have believed them. I had no reason not to, and it makes sense. If
believed that, and then was never corrected, I would have been just as shocked to see Shaq as I was to /not/ see that woman and that snake. Because I
would have misremembered it. Memories are not static. They're /super/ malleable.
Though now I wonder how many people remember the woman and the snake. Because I've primed that memory now. I wonder if anyone is going to tell me
that I'm from a dimension where the ONLY difference was a few frames of a movie, even though I have no other anomalies.
I'm not here to disprove the Mendella effect. I do think it's interesting /when they are believable/. It's /not/ believable that there was an
entirely different dimension just because a few people misremember an actor, or a movie line, or whether or not a character had bad teeth. I don't
even know who that character is. I've never seen the movie. I just saw a thread that said "Dolly never had braces".