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Can you give me a list of Obama's sucesses that come to mind-No Googling

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posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

(he isn't president yet)




posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

You said this not me. Then when I ask for evidence and debunk it you say he isn't president yet. You are actually funny.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: seasonal
And you haven't commented on Obama fixing inversion loopholes. Guess how much in tax revenue that will bring to our economy just from stopping he Allergan/Pfizer merger?



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

I'll be here for another hour and a half



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

Talk to me when GE or Apple pays.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: seasonal

It's been on my mind lately...
He was awarded the Nobel prize for peace...

I think the people awarding him that should ask for it back...

Do you think he will give it back any easier than he is contesting Trump's election win?

He's been really unpleasant to watch on the telly...
and I gave him the chance to win my favor?

Redacted.


ETA;
It's my bedtime. HGN.


I looked into this once because of this whole obama farce when the whole world was asking "what did he get that for?". Turns out that once a nobel peace price has been given it can under no circumstances be taken back.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

They already moved thanks to previous presidents. If Trump makes our tax laws so corporations actually have to pay their fair share I'll back him more than any previous preident ever. I suspect him and his big business cronies will only make this worse. It would be like hiring the cartels for the war on drugs. But you guys think the cartels are going to fix everything.


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posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

We will have to wait and see, and I will be here if he drops the ball to point it out.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: everyone

Was there a reaper drone engraved on the back of the medal?

If there wasn't there sure should have been one because that nobel peace prize was bought and paid for.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: Gothmog

Nope not at all. If clearly explains why you feel Obama is such a poor president yet didn't really contribute what you thought. It highlights what he was responsible for and not. Unlike faux news.


NO , you were replying to your own posts



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

originally posted by: Gothmog

1 is incorrect. Do some research .
2 is incorrect. Any insurance would cover you before. AS is now , for more money.
3 Only of late

Done
Next


1. No, that would be YOU that is incorrect, and in need of research. I live in one of the first two states to legalize it in 2012. The Obama administration has not sent in feds closing down dispensaries like Bush and Clinton did. He has left it alone, and it is thriving.

2.Wrong again. Insurance companies were not universally, in every state, required to cover pre-existing conditions, which is why I went without health insurance for decades.

3. If you consider 2011 recently, then yes. But that's 5 years as a president, so hardly a blip on his timeline.

Next.

1) Know how many registered places of business were raided by the DEA long afterwards? No , you dont. Just posting "because Obama said so".

2) Were not required , they did so voluntarily . Evidently you missed my post on REAL LIFE experience

3) Put in place but not enacted until recently

Going to expound # 1 a bit for the (hahum) the less informed of us . Although States have opened their laws , the possession of said material is still against Federal Laws . Of course , you didnt know that either


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posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog
So we cite things like changing inversion laws and you are still stuck on what Obama did for weed progress. Good debate on the effectiveness of a president.

Good luck on a conservative government in helping further wee reform. We will all measure our social progress on our ablility to bake without recourse.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: testingtesting

Looks like someone used google. And hit the button many many times.


Looks like you never wanted a well-researched list of accomplishments in the first place, which is the only reason to ask people not to investigate.



posted on Jan, 3 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: testingtesting

Get to giving me a list off the top of your head. I don't claim the W was a great president. As a matter of fact he was a huge failure.
He should have NEVER given tax money to the gamblers. He neglected his duties. Obama is in the same category, very poor performance.


Why do you keep asking for a list when it's evident you don't really care what people say? You're prepared to ignore or discount anything you read. You keep going back up to the buffet table when you haven't even cleaned off your first plate.



posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 12:28 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog


1) Know how many registered places of business were raided by the DEA long afterwards? No , you dont. Just posting "because Obama said so".


Yes, I know how many. a relatively small handful compared to the number that went unmolested. Yes, the D.E.A. tried. But because they had no support or directive from Washington D.C., and zero help from state and local agencies, they gave up pretty quick because it was futile. In the 4 years since legalization, there has been very little interference from the feds, because they have no support from D.C.


2) Were not required , they did so voluntarily . Evidently you missed my post on REAL LIFE experience


Evidently, you missed MY REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE when I stated I could not get health insurance due to pre-existing clauses. Those that did take pre-existing also trippled the cost of coverage, co-pays, ect. Few did so "voluntarily". I certainly never found one. Even health insurance through work denied me coverage due to pre-existing conditions. It was not universal, nor even common.


3) Put in place but not enacted until recently


Is 2012 "recently"? Because the programs were there in 2012, having been enacted in the previous 2 years. I know this because I made use of a couple myself, the veterans retraining and job help programs especially. Programs that didn't exist prior. Also, there was a lot more help available for homeless veterans than before getting off the street, getting help. they have been in use for the past 4 years. Some better than others, but the fact there is even something beyond the G.I. bill is a huge step forward.


Going to expound # 1 a bit for the (hahum) the less informed of us . Although States have opened their laws , the possession of said material is still against Federal Laws . Of course , you didnt know that either


Going to enlighten you here. Not only do I know it is currently illegal under federal law, but every package of weed you buy here reminds you of this fact because it's on the label. People who work federal jobs or work for federal contractors still are prohibited from it's use, or they will lose their jobs. The VA still can't prescribe it in any form, except maybe Marinol. Everyone here in the Evergreen State knows it is federally illegal.

Here's something I bet you didn't know: We don't give a flying f*#% about federal law, and haven't for decades on more issues than this. And going beyond by own state and marijuana laws, many other states have bucked or ignored federal law on a number of issues, from gun control, labor regs, and implementing the ACA. Federal law just ain't what it likes to think it is.








posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: seasonal

I'd say that he reduced the unemployment numbers from its highs in 08 to like 4 or 5% (I didn't verify because I'm not allowed to Google) though people tend to disbelieve that statistic.
its not that people disbelieve the statement its the fact that they throw out around 90 million people. now some of those are seniors who shouldn't be working anyway and many are students, which is kinda iffy cause going to school doesn't mean u cant work, and another 9 million or so are 16-17 year olds who are in high school. now those high school kids are of working age so they should be counted. in the end u realistically have about 40 million people who are unemployed. when were just over 320 million people in the US, then that number is suddenly very big and a lot higher then the 4-5% thrown around. it definetly isn't 90 million though either
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posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: ColaTesla
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Im keen to hear your explanation on how these jihadi groups ended up with all this western made equipment?

I don't need to supply an explanation in lieu of evidence. You can't prove anything with speculation alone.



posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: TheScale

You do know there are multiple unemployment metrics correct? There are six of them in fact. The one reported in the news is U3. You are referring to U6. Also, ALL unemployment metrics have been dropping over Obama's tenure as President. Yes these numbers aren't a perfect representation of the American workforce, but it's the best metrics we have. The numbers don't lie. They can never lie. It's the people reading them who have to do the lying.

The only real negative about Obama's economy is that most of the new jobs are service sector jobs and such are low paying and high stress jobs. But then again so are manufacturing jobs, but then we allowed unions to demand more money for the workers and then they became these glory jobs for the blue collar workers of America. Yet for some reason we resist making these changes and strides in the service industry; so it stays a #ty industry to work in. Meanwhile, we battle to reclaim lost glory that has been quite frankly made irrelevant in this country thanks to outsourcing and MORE importantly (yet often ignored) technology.



posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

I didn't post sources. All that was off the top of my head because this thread told me not to use Google. I did correct those numbers later in the thread and you are ALWAYS welcome to look them up yourself.



posted on Jan, 4 2017 @ 07:29 AM
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Off the top of my head?

Shifted America towards a more fascist model of governance by promoting massive bailouts of 'too-big-to-fail' corporations.

Increased racial tensions through the country by promoting criminal elements as 'victims' of policy brutality and societal pressures.

Killed more Americans using drone strikes than any other president in history.

Decreased heroin production in Afghanistan from 90% world production, to 85% world production. Although, this could be due to global warming.

Enabled Russia to begin the process of resurrecting of the former USSR.

Strengthened ISIS into a global force that has embedded their operatives throughout Europe and America.

Dismantled the healthcare industry to be replaced by socialist healthcare, using the ignorance of his supporters to implement Obamacare.

Increased murder rates in major US cities.

Enabled sexual predators easy access to more victims using bathroom 'equality' laws.

Received nobel peace prize, just before sending an entire country into chaos (Libya).

Supported Mexican drug cartels by supply arms and aid through program Fast and Furious.

Provided arms and aid to ISIS, giving them the tools necessary in the creation of an Islamic Caliphate.

*Most of these may not seem like successes, what is being ignored is intent. The intent being to destroy America, Obama has been very successful in this endeavor throughout his tenure.



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