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Trump blasts Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel for record-setting 762 homicides

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posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: Perjury
the military should just roll through and take care of it


Don't you put that voodoo on me ricky bobby.

As much fun as it might be to go through these dens of scum and take out the trash. That goes against our oaths and principals, not to mention the constitution.

I'm not shooting American citizens for the Govt. That's the Police's job, as was already said if they won't it's up to the Governor to activate the Natl. Guard.

But then you have to remember wasn't it like 4 of the last 7 Governors of Illinois are in prison?

Maybe we should just take off and nuke the site from orbit...It's the only way to be sure.




posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Solutions? I take it they have strict gun laws so relax those laws so common folk can defend themselves?.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry


They don't have to go that far. Military intervention would be problematic and undesirable. One big part of the problem is that that a significant percentage of homicide offenders in Chicago are repeat offenders. They're turning out people who shouldn't be back on the streets at all, with predictable results. Institute a mandatory life term for anyone convicted of any violent crime involving a firearm, including mere possession during the crime. That will cut down on some of it over time.

Otherwise, Chicago, and cities with similar problems are not going to see huge improvement until they improve both their educational systems and their job opportunities in the inner cities. Someone asked if poverty was the problem. Yes, at its core, it is. Those people are turning to gangs and violent crime as a means to survive. The governments in those cities need to offer them a real alternative, rather than allowing it to continue so that they can manipulate the situation for votes on election day.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Solutions? I take it they have strict gun laws so relax those laws so common folk can defend themselves?.


Honestly yeah thats what I would recommend......who knows how that would work out, but I do know one thing.....

Criminals fear getting shot in the face by their victim more then they fear going to jail, especially when many times they dont get caught....



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to New Orleans after Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today. Pretty sad when we had Soldiers all geared up being robbed by thugs for their weapons.
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posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: vor78
a reply to: worldstarcountry


They don't have to go that far. Military intervention would be problematic and undesirable. One big part of the problem is that that a significant percentage of homicide offenders in Chicago are repeat offenders. They're turning out people who shouldn't be back on the streets at all, with predictable results. Institute a mandatory life term for anyone convicted of any violent crime involving a firearm, including mere possession during the crime. That will cut down on some of it over time.

Otherwise, Chicago, and cities with similar problems are not going to see huge improvement until they improve both their educational systems and their job opportunities in the inner cities. Someone asked if poverty was the problem. Yes, at its core, it is. Those people are turning to gangs and violent crime as a means to survive. The governments in those cities need to offer them a real alternative, rather than allowing it to continue so that they can manipulate the situation for votes on election day.



And how are they going to pay for the life terms? Thats a LOT of life terms and the city is already broke.......

We have enough issues with over crowded prisons full of people on petty charges doing ridiculously long terms....



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: vor78

Is it because the gangs are out of sight to the rest of the population? Are politicians guilty of ignoring the problem because it’s tricky? What Chicago needs is leadership to take control and resolve. This includes proactively sorting out the problem communities, and that involves money. Money for schools, investment and yes, a zero tolerance attitude to crime.


originally posted by: JoeNutter
Why don't you have guns? Good bye.


There are over a million guns in the legal circulation in the UK. We don't feel the need to take them to the pub with us. It's cultural.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.


Those same troops and the police department also unlawfully confiscated guns from legal gun owners, I do NOT advocate for this sort of mediation......



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I still think poverty and lack of education is an underlining cause, plus the war on drugs may be a cause also. I don't think there is just one solution but helping the good folk defend themselves is a start.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.


Those same troops and the police department also unlawfully confiscated guns from legal gun owners, I do NOT advocate for this sort of mediation......


That is true.. I wonder if that was a testing ground or what.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to New Orleans after Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today. Pretty sad when we had Soldiers all geared up being robbed by thugs for their weapons.


Yup

The Marines helped the police restore order during the L.A. riots.

The police learned that they have a completely different definition of "cover me" then the Marines do.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I still think poverty and lack of education is an underlining cause, plus the war on drugs may be a cause also. I don't think there is just one solution but helping the good folk defend themselves is a start.


I completely agree with both points.......The governing bodies in Chicago have treated the education system and their "war on drugs" as more of a racket then actually doing anything about it......they make money while the rest of the city "eats cake"



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.


Those same troops and the police department also unlawfully confiscated guns from legal gun owners, I do NOT advocate for this sort of mediation......


That is true.. I wonder if that was a testing ground or what.


Youre guess is as good as mine, but ill tell ya, there wasnt much of a fight put up and thats scary.....most of those people never got their weapons back either......



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
And how are they going to pay for the life terms? Thats a LOT of life terms and the city is already broke.......

We have enough issues with over crowded prisons full of people on petty charges doing ridiculously long terms....


Well, for one, maybe those people locked up on petty charges shouldn't be there...

I'm not saying its necessarily going to be easy or cheap. If it were, someone would have solved these issues long ago.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

We can deport them to Mexico, or Cuba. Or send them to the middle east as "refugees".



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I still think poverty and lack of education is an underlining cause, plus the war on drugs may be a cause also. I don't think there is just one solution but helping the good folk defend themselves is a start.


It is not poverty it is culture. These thugs flash enough money to move to whichever city they want. One week of dope dealing and they could escape that life. They embrace that life.



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.



That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to New Orleans after Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today. Pretty sad when we had Soldiers all geared up being robbed by thugs for their weapons.


Yup

The Marines helped the police restore order during the L.A. riots.

The police learned that they have a completely different definition of "cover me" then the Marines do.


In one case the Koren community not far from south central, armed themselves and protected their own because the police refused to come help...

They returned fire at gang members and protected their assets until National Guard came......

If they hadnt they would have been looted and set on fire like everywhere else..........once again a shining example of an armed populace



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: testingtesting

Poverty and Education in Chicago has been on the skids for 50 years.

They've tried every micro-managing system known and all of it has failed.




posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: vor78

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
And how are they going to pay for the life terms? Thats a LOT of life terms and the city is already broke.......

We have enough issues with over crowded prisons full of people on petty charges doing ridiculously long terms....


Well, for one, maybe those people locked up on petty charges shouldn't be there...

I'm not saying its necessarily going to be easy or cheap. If it were, someone would have solved these issues long ago.



Honestly I think the main reason nothings been done is because theres no money in it......



posted on Jan, 2 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: proximo
a reply to: xuenchen
One of the cops said that essentially if they are going to get in trouble for doing their jobs - via black lives matter type protests, it is better to just not do their jobs until they are appreciated.

Funny thing is ... I'm sure he's planning to collect his 'full' paycheck and expect this lull-time to count towards his pension to boot. -Sigh


I dont consider it part of an officer's job to walk into an ambush in the ghetto or somehow save these brutal animals from each other.

If they want to massacre each other over drug territory, i say let em.



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