Trump says he has inside information on hacking

a reply to: mOjOm

That is what I am wondering. How did he get the info?
But he is usually right. It takes some time for the rest of the weaponized media to catch up. We will see mid week.

a reply to: seasonal

The ridiculous thing is that he could literally blame anyone and a large section of the country would believe it. It wouldn't matter if he has proof or not, or if any other media sources, intelligence sources, or politicians vouched for his claims. And with him a few weeks away from gaining access to the nuclear codes and full control over the military, his opinion is the only one that will matter. Just imagine these scenarios for a second:

Scenario 1: He blames "Black Lives Matter" supporters and disgruntled members of the far left, claiming it was our final act of revenge against the DNC who's taken us for granted. Would he then launch reprisals against us and use this as justification to do mass arrests (for supposedly attacking the American voting system)?

Scenario 2: He blames China, claiming they wanted him elected because they could manipulate him over the $950 million loan he partially owes the Bank of China. Would this provoke the nation to become defiant against China for "daring" to control the US President?

Scenario 3: He blames Muslim groups, Mexico, or even our own FBI and/or intelligence agencies. Depending on how he pitched it, he could use that example to justify any thing from invasions and mass arrests to political purges from within the govt agencies that he claims were the culprits.

Scenario 4: Instead of blaming, he credits some group or country for doing "a great service to the country" by exposing Hillary, the DNC, and whatever else. As in, he claims it was a good thing instead of a bad thing. It may even be some highly maligned group that would now be promoted in a new light. Maybe he'd claim that group or country simply stopped or blocked the attempted manipulations of one of the groups from examples 1-3?

Either way, it would be crazy because so many people have lost faith in the media and our elected officials. So even if it turned out that he was 100% wrong and intentionally lying to push his own agenda, it would probably still work. And even worse, I suspect that a lot of people (including here on ATS) would be overjoyed with the opportunity to start those witch hunts, wars, bureaucratic purges, and/or mass arrests.

Well I had time to look into this some. According to Breitbart Sean Spicer said he gets an intelligence briefing three times a week and is already getting the President's Daily Brief. That's a big one there, prepared by DNI themselves.

So, yeah, that's likely where that information came from. I don't normally read Breitbart but they came up quick on a search for that.

a reply to: mOjOm

Trump doesn't even understand computers and the internet other than to barely use them. He certainly doesn't know anything about hacking. So f*cking stupid.

This doesn't sound so stupid to me.

Mr. Trump, who does not use email, also advised people to avoid computers when dealing with delicate material. “It’s very important, if you have something really important, write it out and have it delivered by courier, the old-fashioned way, because I’ll tell you what, no computer is safe,” Mr. Trump said. ..... You want something to really go without detection, write it out and have it sent by courier.”

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: seasonal

How is he usually right??

Was he right about the University???

Was he right that retweet with the stats on black on white crime??

Was he right about Cruz's Dad helping kill JFK???

Was he right about draining the swamp???

He's going to push some other conspiracy theory without any evidence and people will eat up like usual.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Over thinking this maybe?

Is BLM known for their hacking?

He has smack talked China since he started running for pres, and China takes that pretty seriously.

According to the story he recognizes how serious this hacking thing is. I don't think there will be any awards issued.

I think people here on ATS want the truth, and your right the media is no longer trusted.

a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

Everyone knows that. Those aren't the words of someone who's familiar with computers. That is common knowledge for most people and certainly someone who fears computers and doesn't understand them.

He's not a cyber security specialist and from what most people say he doesn't even use a computer.

Why do people think that everything he says is so amazing???

I don't get it.

Honestly people, I'm kind of amazed by this. Forget this is Trump we're talking about for a minute. How do you feel knowing that someone that hasn't even been sworn in is already getting the DNI President's Daily Report? That's the highest level security clearance in the country, at least that we know about.

Forget it's Trump, imagine it's anybody else if that helps you. Not sworn in yet, same report the President gets... I don't know how I feel about that yet but it seems weird.

Don't like Brietbart? Here's other news agencies saying the same thing...
New York Times
Reuters
CNN

a reply to: Noncents

Agreed, something isn't right that Obama is saying one thing and Trump appears to be saying something else.

I am actually looking forward to see what DJ Trump has for us.

a reply to: mOjOm

He doesn't have to know everything about cybersecurity. He has advisors to tell him how to protect his assets.

After reading this I don't feel very confident is the US Intel communities abilities:


Ars Technica: White House Fails to Make Case that Russian Hacking Tampered with Election
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"This ultimately seems like a very rushed report put together by multiple teams working different data sets and motivations," Robert M. Lee, CEO and Founder of the security company Dragos, wrote in a critique published Friday. "It is my opinion and speculation that there were some really good government analysts and operators contributing to this data and then report reviews, leadership approval processes, and sanitation processes stripped out most of the value and left behind a very confusing report trying to cover too much while saying too little."

The sloppiness, Lee noted, included the report's conflation of Russian hacking groups APT28 and APT29—also known as CozyBear, Sandworm, Sednit, and Sofacy, among others—with malware names such as BlackEnergy and Havex, and even hacking capabilities such as "Powershell Backdoor." The mix up of such basic classifications does little to inspire confidence that the report was carefully or methodically prepared. And that only sows more reasons for President elect Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on the intelligence community's analysis on a matter that, if true, poses a major national security threat.

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originally posted by: Noncents
Honestly people, I'm kind of amazed by this. Forget this is Trump we're talking about for a minute. How do you feel knowing that someone that hasn't even been sworn in is already getting the DNI President's Daily Report? That's the highest level security clearance in the country, at least that we know about.

Forget it's Trump, imagine it's anybody else if that helps you. Not sworn in yet, same report the President gets... I don't know how I feel about that yet but it seems weird.

Don't like Brietbart? Here's other news agencies saying the same thing...
New York Times
Reuters
CNN

I don't know. If you tell the President everything you do away with the whole plausible deniability excuse. Don't remember if it was fact or someones fantasy that there were levels above the President because he was only there for four to eight years. I can see the military keeping secrets from both the President and Congress. I believe the MIC approves what the public and politicians need to know.

a reply to: mOjOm

People need to wake the f*ck up.

I suggest you take your own advice.

a reply to: Metallicus

So you also believe Trump knows more about, well practically everything according to him, than anyone else huh????


You think he knows more than everybody???

a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer
I've read the same thing before and can't remember if it was true or not as well.

With Trump getting the President's Daily Brief from the Department of National Intelligence and regular intelligence briefings beyond that one he is in possession of information most people don't have access to so he's not off base with this claim.

Now to see if he can speak on it.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Metallicus

So you also believe Trump knows more about, well practically everything according to him, than anyone else huh????


You think he knows more than everybody???

I am positive he knows more than you.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: faint1993

I wonder where is he getting the info. Does he have is our intel org.?

He is President Elect!

a reply to: muSSang

In a murder, as in any other crime,

There are two people who know EXACTLY who, how, and why the crime was committed,

The Victim.

And the Perpetrator.

This hack was a crime.

Trump claims to know more about this crime than "other people" (incidentally lending credence to the very existence of the crime by his assertion).

And it is clear that Trump was not the victim.

originally posted by: muSSang

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: faint1993

I wonder where is he getting the info. Does he have is our intel org.?

He is President Elect!

Who has publicly stated that he does not believe the information the 17 different intelligence agencies tasked with providing the President with this sort of information.

That leaves, I suppose, only the actual perpetrator (s) of the hack as his source.

Ain't that a pretty picture!

a reply to: seasonal

War is on the way.

War is a highly likely outcome where the president is either naive or has been lied to.

Trump will be an easy person to tell a lie to because he has no experience with dealing with slimy experienced and convincing people who lie and manufacture conspiracies. I believe the Americans call them green horns.

has he to talked to Putin yet??