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originally posted by: SgtEsquire
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I don't buy that it could all be military. Service men and women are terrible at keeping secrets.
They might only tell their spouse, or bf, or a letter upon death, or whatever. From all the alledged sightings over the years there would have been ALOT of people involved (a lot of low level military and civilian personnel as well).
Yep just the very basic part of all humans included at birth from the first to the last. Plain as can be.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: humanoidlord
Time travelling humans is more plausible than extraterrestrial beings.
The distances are too vast, the logistics are beyond comprehension, the fleeting lifespans of civilisations plus a hundred other arguements point toward them being 'not' extraterrestrial in origin.
However, from the viewpoint of time travel, some small questions can be explained.
'Greys', in my mind, represent what an evolved human may well look like in another 400 million years. Or less.
The apparant 'secrecy' with which UFOs conduct themselves could be because of the unwillingness to interfere with the timeline of human progression, for obvious reasons.
I dunno, just seems unlikely that an advanced species from another world would even be capable of maintaining deep space operations involving espionage and some unknown agenda, let alone pump the extraordinary amount of time, money and resources into such an endeavour with very little reward.
Time travelling humans however, would see a lot of benefit in travelling back to ancient times. So long as they didn't majorly disrupt the history of their own development.
So not interdimensional nor extraterrestrial. Just plain Human. From Earth.
your so dead on especially about starting premises being faulty. The one who teaches without learning is the source of wisdom. because He never learned he never built on anything other than that which is available to us all. He's at the bottom cause is always the bottom and that's where he stays.
originally posted by: Caver78
It's always the same old, same old.
I will run with the theory we know jack about how things work and are infants. Nothing has to be inter dimensional that knows ALL of the physics of our reality and can use it. To us things would appear to just be there and then vanish. When in fact we can't comprehend it's still actually there. Due to our limited biology we just aren't, can't perceive it altho some people can get glimpses. And Yes our physical biology limits what we are able to perceive.
So....this leaves me convinced things are real and within our 3D world alongside of us and have been for as long as we can remember. When they want to be seen they are, and when they don't they are using physics in ways we haven't learned to yet because our starting premises are faulty.
Some will argue this endlessly but seriously we know jack squat about how to manipulate matter or any other parts of our physical world. We're children looking at grownups wondering how did THAT happen. Sheesh!
Interdimensional? Hahahahahahaha! NO.