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interdimensional or extraterrestrial?

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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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Operation Paperclip was the United States Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program in which more than 1,500 Germans,[1] primarily scientists but also engineers and technicians, were brought to the United States from post-Nazi Germany for government employment starting in 1945 and increasing in the aftermath of World War II.[2] It was conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) and in the context of the burgeoning Cold War. One purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific expertise and knowledge to the Soviet Union[2] and the United Kingdom,[3] as well as to inhibit post-war Germany from redeveloping its military research capabilities. By comparison, the Soviet Union were even more aggressive in recruiting Germans: during Operation Osoaviakhim, Soviet military units forcibly (at gunpoint) recruited 2,000+ German specialists to the Soviet Union during one night.





posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

my guess would be a little of both. I think its possible that some aliens are from another dimension. I have come across this based on comments in some of the ufo's books I have read. This was put out as a theory. But I am reading a book now called "Earth in Human Hands," by David Grinspoon. He talks quite a bit about the chances for alien life in the universe, as well as the possibilities in our own Milky Way Galaxy as well. The latest estimate for the number of habitable worlds in the Milky Way now per Mr. Grinspoon, is that there are about 50 billion possible habitable worlds, just in our galaxy. Imagine how many more possible habitable worlds there is in all of the other worlds in all the other galazies in the known universe! So my guess is possibly both.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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I'm not a believer in string theory, and --- IMHO --- the IDH is pure bunk, which gives charlatans and quacks like Vallee and the late J. Allen Hynek a chance to wrongly demonize Ufology and the E.T. creatures [from another star system] that pilot these wonderful flying machines; which have obvious superluminal capabilities.
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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse
When even Jacque vallee don't know

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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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Hello humanoidlord,

It wouldn't it be a question of "or" (this or that). There are probably more than those two or three possibilities. I think our universe is far more diverse than we give it credit for. I would imagine if intelligent life exists outside of our infinitesimally small planet (on the universal scale), that life would exist in many more ways than we can imagine. Even here on our planet, life is diverse in the extreme (not including all the past life that has ever existed on this planet). I would think that with the universe being as large as it is, that there would be a multitude of diverse life forms throughout the entire universe. Within the last ten or fifteen years or so, scientists have been discovering that life can exist in the most extreme places we can look. So, in my point of view, life (including intelligent life) does probably exist elsewhere, and in so many diverse forms that we would be hard pressed to comprehend all of it.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: solve
a reply to: humanoidlord

No, i do not mean beings that travel from other dimensions,

There are beings that live in no dimension, the void, the underworld. the space between spaces. the inbetween, the webway, the place that the wormhole goes through,



Thats the Cybermen from Dr Who.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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Imagine a great hallway, there are windows, these windows are other dimensions, other times, other spaces.

The hallway has no dimension, so you need an enclosed lightship, where to live.

But the hallway itself is alive, the windows are its eyes, it is infinite.

All is one in Yog Sothoth.
Yog Sothoth is the gate.
Yog Sothoth is the key.

All things are from Yog Sothoth, and all things return in it, because it is the only true being, creating dimensions, spaces, only to devour them, because it is the perfect- self sustaining organism.


It is a perfect form of autosarcophagy, no entropy.

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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

ok so a mix?
anyway i dont like how you shoehorned trump into this with-out a explanation



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: All Seeing Eye

a mix again



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: vlawde

oh so you are talking of something like jose caravaca distortion theory(caravaca102.blogspot.com.br...)?



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

whoa! why go to hostility? i read all your post
from your post your theory is that all of them are misidentifications



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

'Interdimensional beings' is what was traditionally referred to as 'spirits'.
But these beings seem to be alien too. They look profoundly other - so much so that
they scarcely look human, except in basic physical form. I think they are spirits from
other worlds. I think it was Hynek who suggested that they travel here via the astral plane.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: solve

i understand so they live in the nothing?
interesting dimensionless beings ummm..



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

a mix again
ok



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

ahhh jacques valle my favorite ufologist its him
that saved me from the extraterrestrial fallacy
also why is the guy in your video playing a video game while talking about ufos?
thats so weird
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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: data5091

aliens from another dimension?
you are the second person on the thread to mention that interesting possibility



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: repairguyt

a mix again
ok



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: solve

ok
so an alive multiverse?



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: EnPassant

ok interdimensional then?



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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Why couldnt it be both? Imagine the universe as a giant spinning flat peg board. And each dimension is another giant spinning flat peg board. Infinite universes and galaxies are the pegs in the peg board. Within in that universe, distance between pegs is immense. But when travelling between dimesions, sometimes the desired pegs are closer, and then jump between dimensions is shorter travel. If the boards are spinning opposite directions. You jump from one dimension to the next, to next, and then back. This happens almost instantaniously, becsuse universes are giant spinning flat planes. What might seem like seconds of travel, could be years for everyone else. When those "watchers, or creators" return. To them, travel lasted a few moments, but on earth. It could have been thousands of years.

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