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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:42 AM
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Gen X will be the last generation before America's dismantling.


It was the Baby Boomers.

But stands to reason that it would collapse with X.

Good enough.


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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:03 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

I'm a little older than most members, 66. I was not orphaned but I was on my own with two mentally ill parents. One from WW2 experiences. I have grown kids who think much like you and that gives me hope.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:11 AM
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...you are using the wrong type old text for your ideas love

- you are adressing the New World Lightworkers, aka "enlightened beings".

has nothing to do with scripture.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:22 AM
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a reply to: loNeNLI


Except I understand what this means - "apart from me you can do nothing"



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: loNeNLI


Except I understand what this means - "apart from me you can do nothing"



yes...i believe you do

- but the Atlantean realm you describe, powering it's sons,
having worked the past few 1000 years to go Ignite soon on earth,
lóves to conceal her nature with quotes of scripture... since, superficially, they appear to be the same...



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Amen. Amen. Amen.

Yes to the unveiling of the sons of God. Yes to the new creation that we bring about by the unveiling of our minds as to who we are. Yes. We must rise. At all costs. We cannot let this time pass. It is here and it is now. The facade is crumbling. The powers are laid bare for all to see. We cannot let this time pass.

Love is the key. We must expose the powers yes. But love is the key. The new creation can't be built on the old foundation of blood and sacrifice. (The lamb was slain from the foundation of the world... Cain and Able, Romulus and Remus, NWO and the Holocaust) Our entire foundation is on the subjugation, death, and destruction of the other. We must find a way to live by the way. The way of self sacrifice, and mutual love for one another. The bonding together out of love not of control and power. The true collective is when we see each other as one unified body of humanity, each person as an extension of our self. The greater self, the collective consciousness or the Mind of Christ. The very mind of God/Universe as we are an extension of the same. Only through the removing of the veil of the mind of man, the ego, can we see that we are the very reflection of divinity. We are all the Son's of God. We are the word made flesh.




posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: RedDragon
Why is it that self-actualization for humanity en masse is only achieved after a century of selfishness developed the technology to make it possible?


 



exactly what I thought

the self-enlightenment realization brought by the technology is being lost to the social-media madness (twitter, snap this-n-that, et al)



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

First ,great post S&F .As a Christian ,I have seen within my mind a change over the past 2 years I could not have imagined that meshes with your post . I have to attribute this change to Micheal Heiser and his mode of delivering some very complicated issues in the Bible . Reading the bible has always been a voyage for me and has taken me into studying on my own .This studying always left me with parts that I had no context to put them in . It was like a great work shop where you have been working producing stuff but with good products left over piled in different places in the shop .

Finding Micheal Heiser was equivalent to me building a store room to move all those great left over products into a proper place .Having them where they should be and at the ready .Not restraining my work place .

With that said I want to drop this lecture off by Mike . His Unseen Realm stuff is the framework but this Michael Heiser - Reversing Hermon ,puts it all into perspective as to what the Cross ,death ,and resurrection actually accomplished .It fits and makes sense that we become the Son's of God .Each and every one of us .
TPTB know their time is short ,but we should know that ours is not .



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Good post, as far as the masses waking up to the the agenda of the globalists I fully concur, but as for the masses achieving some kind of spiritual enlightenment I'm not seeing it. In my minds eye I tried to picture it, I began to imagine.

"Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace" John Lennon

Many years a go I imagined by the time his generation was at the the top of the food chain we would see a much better much more enlightened world, unfortunately Lennon was shot dead and I as it turned out, was just a dreamer...



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

P.s Happy new year! I really hope 2017 is the year where people reject materialism. We will all be so much better off without that which we don't really need.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: RiptKeys
Wow. This post and most of the snowflake response mentality literally set back our future by 500 years.
While you're building a new century of humanism, who is working and paying the bills? Your parents will die soon enough, and your comfy basement will no longer be available.
While you're getting in touch with your inner emotions and making your 3 foot bubble the best padded room available, who is watching the powers that be? Who will have the nerve to do the dirty # that needs to be done to make sure your precious ass gets food tomorrow.
Gen X will be the last generation before America's dismantling.
There is no enlightenment when there is nothing left but socialism. Your enlightenment will be slavery. And history will repeat itself again.


I think you missed the point. The sleeping giant is awakening and when he stands up to face the new day, all those faulty narratives, shenanigans and skullduggery falls apart in his sight. There is no place for a collectivist/socialist society that takes it's cue from an inauthentic and lying "machine" or system/matrix which wants to fill his/her mind with garbage and various wedge issues, points of manipulation and fear/anger.

They fear the rise of the informed and spirit-filled individual human being acting in the world and in the process rendering all those forms and structures inadequate and obsolete, because they don't serve the cause of human Liberty.

I'm talking about stepping up and coming to power and unleashing creative genius and performance and in the process paving the way for others.

This is about courage, strength and wisdom, and about REAL power and an authentic model of Civilized Leadership.

This is about individual self-determination, not sitting in Mom's basement and bemoaning the sins of the world while doing and accomplishing nothing of any lasting substance or value.

Leadership has failed, and into that gap walks the awakened giant who's light leads the way and who's creativity is always helpful, never hurtful, unless it becomes necessary to hurt some feelings for the sake and cause of love.

Another facet of this "movement" I think is that it's a clean break and a point of differentiation and distinction relative to what isn't formative or functional any more and that doesn't tolerate that nonsense and where it still exists, to simply ignore it altogether and carry on, certain in the knowledge that his/her cause is just and true, real and authentic and what's relevant and important.

It's a demarcation point, or a gateway access point into a whole new domain of possibility or new pasture into and from where we are free to freely come and go.

It is life to the full, even to overflowing, it's the time to get to work, transforming our own lives and those around us as the true community, the true nation and the true world.

The awakened person who can translate his/her enlightenment into creative action wins the day. He stands relative to the whole of it all, and hand in hand with God as a co-creator rules over the all-in-all.

There is nothing and no force that can stand against this process, once initiated and what I'm saying is that it has been initiated, in whatever way however big or small, however fast or slowly, it doesn't matter because it's the boundary condition for new beginnings.

It's like a wise storekeeper who brings forth from his storehouse of treasure both something new and something old.

The world, at all levels, cannot help but respond to this actualization, and when the old "PTB" see and recognize the power and performance of the individual, then they will come to know and understand that their collectivist nonsense as some sort of tool or expediency as the mechanism by which to "rule" over the masses, will all fall apart, as the tables are turned or as needed, upended.

We need more of the Spirit and Wisdom of Jesus in the world, but the key is that this new world that we are choosing to live into, cannot allow itself to be absorbed by the old world.

It has to break with all that, even while living and working with one foot in both domains as needed to function and earn a living.

Once remembered and recognized (re cognized), we must never self-forget while continuing to move into the new world of our own choosing.

We can't take our cue from the old world any more. It doesn't nourish the soul and it refuses to acknowledge our true nature and calling or our place in the grand scheme of things as children of a loving God who it pleased to share everything with us, and I mean everything.

Then as we demonstrate that we are capable of assuming increasing responsibility for our lives and the lives of our fellow man, more and more will be given to us, as the meek in spirit and the humble at long last inherit the earth.

We have to start taking these things and teachings, like those given by Jesus, seriously, and when we do, watch out, because you ain't seen nuthin yet, but you will see it.

We have to press on in, like yeast in the dough until it's leavened all through.

This doesn't mean that we have to overthrow the state or rebel against our bosses.

Jesus' fundamental idea was about how the true world will, as it is embraced, transform the old one by being a model of what the new looks like, and in the process cross the gap between what is and what ought to be.

It doesn't even really oppose evil, but instead by offering no opposition, allowing evil to run to ground.

Those who seek to understand the mind of Christ know what I'm talking about.

But those who think they already know or who say we see, they remain ignorant and blind with their little clod of grievances, poorly formed opinions and their judgements, all of which only serves to form a prison of their own making.

Come out of there! Come out of that tomb and be resurrected from the dead, even if you stink at first.

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posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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The problem with John Lennon's vision there, is that it's about a type of Godless, globalist, collectivist society lacking in knowledge, understanding and ancient wisdom, with everyone just living for the moment.

In the type of model I'm describing (see my post above this one), there's absolutely nothing wrong with different cultural expressions or national identity, provided it's not one that falls into the idolatry of worship of the state.


Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity. ”Patriotism” is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by ”patriotism” I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity, above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one’s own nation, which is the concern with the nation’s spiritual as much as with its material welfare –never with its power over other nations. Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love for one’s country which is not part of one’s love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship.

~ ERICH FROMM, The Sane Society

Read more at www.notable-quotes.com...



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: AnkhMorpork

P.s Happy new year! I really hope 2017 is the year where people reject materialism. We will all be so much better off without that which we don't really need.



There's no need to reject it depending on its utility. That said there's also something to be said for simplicity and switching focus from materialism to what really matters, but if it floats your boat to have a boat for you and your family to go on vacation, then there's certainly nothing wrong with that.


"The love of money for what it is, as opposed to the love of money merely as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life, can be recognized for what it is; a somewhat criminal, somewhat pathological propensity that one only will end up handing over to the specialists in mental disease."

~ Kenneth Galbraith, renowned American economist


Happy New Year! to you also.

You're a kind-hearted person. Consider being less passive though and more active and forceful, more powerful, not in a dominating way, but to best serve this world we are generating in the midst of a world gone mad.



posted on Dec, 31 2016 @ 05:13 PM
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It's not easy though, to be the Bride of Christ and we all run away from God like Jonah, even while the whale was already dispatched under would be turbulent waters to both punish and save us from our guilty conscience.

This is why the image of death and resurrection and baptism under the water and up again, is important. There's always an ordeal of some kind and we all have some sort of cross to bear or an authentic repentance to make to give us a clean and clear conscience in absolute forgiveness and unconditional love.

In my experience there's always a pleasant surprise and humorous realization in it, where what's surprising is that it comes and freely offers itself, over and over again even in SPITE of ourselves, as if God has reserved for himself the last laugh at the expense of all evil, wickedness and human folly, while hoping against hope to let us in on it somehow in order so that the realization is a shared glory and a shared joy and a shared restoration and recovery of the good and happy and virtuous life that God holds in store as the domain of unlimited potential. It's an invitation to leave everything else behind and enter into the holy of holies where God dwells. It's a rather strange and potentially very humorous predicament to find one's self in, to be faced on the one hand with absolute freedom, and on the other, with some pathetic prison either of our own making or cast like a spell upon us, even knowingly or according to ancient wisdom and story ie: Jesus was born on September 11th, that kind of thing.

What quickly becomes apparent, is that there's been an attempt to overthrow the throne and put up a spearhead (or needle) as if to ward off this future realization as to man's true nature and place.




Their best defence is an offense to God and to the human being. It's satanic, pure and simple. It's all about some sort of top down collectivism managed by a bunch of greedy bastards engaged in forms of ritual black magic, the true narrative of which they themselves have probably lost touch with ie: lineages of evil, the true meaning of Genesis 6, the resolution to the problem in the establishment of the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy as seen in the cross of Jesus Christ, etc.

You can't just blow it up and lay claim to the future course of history in some sort of unipolar global civilization, and here's the thing.

It didn't work.

The data, is in.

You will know them by their fruits.

But then people ask - what shall we do in the face of such monstrous evil? When it runs through the "established order", throughout the Institutions of Government and of Global Government (EU, United Nations), throughout Celebrity Culture, and every media channel, advertisement, and much of what we deem to be "modern culture"? How can the lone individual, no matter how enlightened or self-actualized and individuated hope to stand up in the face of an insane world apparently led by satanists?

But again, once it becomes self-evident, and once the truth that sets us free is understood, then the power and potential of transformation and change is all the more powerful in terms of the competition between these two worlds, one false, the other, the real world that we hope to live into and learn how to love, which is the world that we make and generate from within the domain of all possibility, where even God is available as a partner in this new endeavor.

Jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of God, and enshrined it in the Lord's Prayer, as much point to the truth as to draw a line and a distinction relative to a fallen world which had been contaminated by certain occult practices in alignment with the ecliptic and the precession of the equinoxes, as if in appeasement to some demon God, while wrenching the course of history away from the course that the REAL God intended, which is a new creation in the twinkling of an eye.

We need a new creation, not more and more destruction unto a cataclysm.

Order out of chaos is just bad policy all the way around. It doesn't work. It's not formative or functional and it serves neither God nor the human being.

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posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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The reason I quoted Lennon's lyrics is because he was essentially a good man, while I recognize the lyrics in Imagine are flawed, it is largely in how they are interpreted. What he was getting at with "nothing to kill or die for" in reference to countries and religion as he saw it, was the division that these concepts can bring about, the us versus them attitude that has been the cause of so many wars in the past.

while I'm all for sovereignty and peoples right to practice their faith they must be recognized for what they are, tools which can be used for good or bad. on the one hand they can bring people together and unite them under a common identity, on the other, they can alienate those of different faiths or nationality's (identity's) and thus we have the potential for conflict.

You talk about collectivism as if it's a bad thing of itself yet isn't that what religion is about? you also acknowledge no man is an island. While I see where your coming from in general, to my mind there is nothing wrong with any system of governance or cooperation that has been conceived so far. The problems arise in when whatever system is corrupted and they can all and have been corrupted. It seems to be a problem which is inbedded in human nature itself.

Which brings me to the problem of materialism, of course it has it's utility, we live in a material world after all and it has it's beauty and charm. But too many people are enchanted by this beauty, they lust after things and crave for what is essentially illusion. All the deadly sins are connected with this illusion in some form or other and the irony is none of it is real! It's all just energy manifest into form.

What good is boat if you have nobody to sail with? The only good it can serve is to get you off your island and find the others!

What then is real? Love is real, (another of Lennons songs btw "real love") true and unconditional love. It is all that matters and probably the only thing we can ever truly possess.

Are people waking up to this concept? I would hope so but I'm not seeing the signs myself. What I am seeing is massive division, the blame game, the us versus them attitude that has prevailed for to long. The mass hysteria over who will be puppet in charge over a nation that values and promotes materialism above all else...
Saying that there is good in that nation and it's good to see there are those championing it. While I don't believe Trump will make America great again, only it's people can do that. The way they can do that is by throwing off the shackles of authoritarian rule and putting public servants in their place. To serve the interests of the public and not the other way round as it appears to have been. The same goes for many other countries too. If only it were so simple.



posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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Good post.

I can't speak for other religions but Christianity appears to be all about individual Liberty, where the mutual commitments and obligations arise as free expressions of the heart when we are moved to compassion, although we are also reminded of the consequences of having a dead heart that doesn't give a # and that doesn't lift a finger.

The problem is when it's framed as an entirely exclusive proposition conditional upon "belief" in, instead of a rational and reasonable and compelling invitation and free gift.

I think that human ignorance and stupidity is the biggest problem, and I blame the desire to dumb people down to make the masses more manageable and less demanding.

I've come to recognize that indeed, collectivism and the collectivist mindset is a real enemy, because rights and freedoms are an individual and personal matter, where no matter how many individual's it may apply to, no group has such intrinsic rights, particularly which would supercede individual rights and freedoms.

God appears to operate one person at a time and goes in pursuit of the one lost sheep to lead them in, one by one, individually.


As much as I like your post, I'd like you to consider your own propensity to think about people collectively. We all do it of course, but it's not the right way to view the human being, not in Jesus' day and not now.



posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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Good post.

I can't speak for other religions but Christianity appears to be all about individual Liberty, where the mutual commitments and obligations arise as free expressions of the heart when we are moved to compassion, although we are also reminded of the consequences of having a dead heart that doesn't give a # and that doesn't lift a finger.

The problem is when it's framed as an entirely exclusive proposition conditional upon "belief" in, instead of a rational and reasonable and compelling invitation and free gift.

I think that human ignorance and stupidity is the biggest problem, and I blame the desire to dumb people down to make the masses more manageable and less demanding.

I've come to recognize that indeed, collectivism and the collectivist mindset is a real enemy, because rights and freedoms are an individual and personal matter, where no matter how many individual's it may apply to, no group has such intrinsic rights, particularly which would supercede individual rights and freedoms.

God appears to operate one person at a time and goes in pursuit of the one lost sheep to lead them in, one by one, individually.


As much as I like your post, I'd like you to consider your own propensity to think about people collectively. We all do it of course, but it's not the right way to view the human being, not in Jesus' day and not now.


read your post with interest.
and think you miss the point how human is built -- with an essence, a core, the 'soul' .
But that essence is totally Helpless.
...and needs an "I", an ego, to protect herself [in this world] , or she would be completely overrun ; like a baby

yet this I , is *not* belonging nor part of the soul -
in fact, it's a hostile entity, powered by the ópposite realm as God's ,
and is only capable to comprehend Dualistic commands [of them],
hence vieuwing this 'reality' in a complete Dualistic conception

...hence your themes of 'individuality' and 'collectivist mindset' solemly apply to that "I" --
not to the essence [of every person] , the soul.

In fact - His goal is, to remove / destroy from every [adamite] soul that cursed "I' -
but in 100% of cases, the soul will RESIST
so often, a soul needs first to get into deep trouble....before chóosing to surrender.... - that is the 'going after the lost sheep' you mentioned

the entire goal is, to set that soul FREE ; and nót be in the prison of a collectivist dualistic mindset...okay. However, when a soul will want to cling to her I , the realm which fabricated that I [for the soul, to imprison her by] , will eventually have the Legal Right to go rule that soul, completely ----



posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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You blame the ice-cream men for tempting your desires but arn't the desires your own? Its the unquenchable desires in all of us that blocks the light. Own them and kill them, before they do you, time and time again. I love your spirit AnkhMorpork.



posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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You blame the ice-cream men for tempting your desires but arn't the desires your own? Its the unquenchable desires in all of us that blocks the light. Own them and kill them, before they do you, time and time again. I love your spirit AnkhMorpork.



though i appreciate your goodwill
you just as well could say him "stop and kill the fully equipped Abrams tank with your bare hands".

realizing that Ignoring or denying the real situation of what a person's real essence is - a helpless soul - is the first step. It is silly to project capabilities into someone, which simply aren't there -- will make someone only more hopeless [ and ultimately, never forgive himself for having gotten thát completely Tricked, at the end, when truth will show ]


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posted on Jan, 1 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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Ha, I never said it was easy but helpless we are not. We need take stock of every desire and ask ourselves its root. Cllining and craving for impermanent states of happiness keeps us on the karmic merry-go-round. First step is to own it, second step is to control the unbridled mind.







 
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