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How do you feel about Trump getting cozy with Russia and Putin.

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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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Trump did not become a billionaire by being "played" by people, nor is he anyone's puppet like so many on the left like to claim because of their butt hurtness syndrome.


Trump is going to remedy the last 8 years of Obama FAIL by promoting building new bridges instead of tearing them down like Obama has been so hell bent on doing.

Hope that helps.




posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse


First of all Russia is not my enemy, greed and desire to have power which is abused is what I am against.


You're statement is an oxymoron.

You should read more about Putin and the history of Russia.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


Trump did not become a billionaire by being "played" by people, nor is he anyone's puppet like so many on the left like to claim because of their butt hurtness syndrome.


Real Estate and Politics are two different worlds.


Trump is going to remedy the last 8 years of Obama FAIL by promoting building new bridges instead of tearing them down like Obama has been so hell bent on doing.


Time will tell.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: gpols




How do you feel about Trump getting cozy with Russia and Putin.


I do not think I would mind. I rather like when two powerful people with a nuclear arsenal get along.

But all I see is diplomacy though.

If you go through everything Trump has said about Putin it amounts to "he is smart", "he is powerful", "he knows, what he is doing". And if you know a thing or two about Russian politics - and I would like to think that I do - you know that Russia has this weird macho thing going on in politics - show weakness, and you are done for. Lose face and you are out.

Trump's acknowledgements of Putin is what enables Putin to make pragmatic deals with Trump - "powerful leader to powerful leader" without losing face. Putin would never be able to make such pragmatic deals with the condescending Hillary.

Hillary knows this, yet kept her attitude and condescending demeanor, and to me that made her scary as hell. I live somewhat close to Russia and would rather that Putin was not pushed to prove his strength. Actually, that was, what made me root for Trump.

So, yeah, I am all for Trump and Putin getting along.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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Filled with hope. It is promising that the US and Russia will be able to build a closer relationship, with greater cooperation. Trump will have to keep the warmongering Neocons of the Establishment Republican and Establishment Democratic factions in order though.

Russia is not my enemy, Russia has never done anything to me, or my country, we, however, have aided America for decades in it's overt aggression against Russia and her people. Time for that to end, as soon as possible.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: gpols

actually we have been pretty cozy with Russia up unto Obama and the snowden stuff, snowden had been hacking info for cash and the FBI was ready to pounce when he quickly absconded with some thumb drives full of info and metadata. BTW, computer contract workers for NSA are not allowed to take thumb drives into their work place. So that is just another charge they will get him.

He tried to get to China but China knew better and had most of the meta data he had already. Russia took him because he was already in cahoots with the Chinese and Russian mafia stealing identities and info around the world and making money off of it.

The only way he will come back is if the O man pardon's him, or in a body bag.

I wouldn't doubt right now Snowden isn't right now at a computer terminal hacking accounts as we type.
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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: gpols
a reply to: Tman2135

So you think all the animosity from the cold war and Russian and Putin's nostalgia for the Soviet era isn't in direct conflict with American values or the image America is attempting to project in the world?


I see the US and Russia as having mutual interest at the moment.

Why does Putin have nostalgia for the Soviet era? I believe it is not necessarily that he wants a return to Communism (he's a devout Orthodox Christian, which was difficult under Communism) but that was a time when his country was strong, it was respected, and it had the power to influence world affairs.

Times are different, but it's not like Russia could not be a great partner for the US.

The Cold War was "fought" over a difference in ideology, that ideology conflict no longer exists for all intents and purposes.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: DupontDeux

So you don't think Putin is going to take advantage of Trump and give himself an opening to relive the nostalgia of the USSR he and so many other in the Russian government fantasize about?

You have a living interest in seeing the deescalation of tensions between NATO and Russia, and I would like to see that too, but ultimately all of Putin and his governments moves revolve around the nostalgia of the USSR and bringing that glory back to the Russian Federation.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:28 PM
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why be enemies with Russia? as someone who is a Russian born US citizen i want the two countries working together not against each other.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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I like a world that do not glow in the dark and have living things in it..
So yes.. A good relationship with Russia is great news.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: gpols

what glory are you talking about? there was nothing glorious about the soviet union and the russian people know this. dont speak on things you dont understand.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka


Russia is not my enemy, Russia has never done anything to me, or my country, we, however, have aided America for decades in it's overt aggression against Russia and her people. Time for that to end, as soon as possible.


Just a few years ago when Putin invaded, our ally, Ukraine folks on the right were outraged, now that Trump is president all the Russian aggression is forgiven.

How do you resolve that logical conflict?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason


what glory are you talking about? there was nothing glorious about the soviet union and the russian people know this. dont speak on things you dont understand.


This isn't about the Russian people, this is about Putin and his governments wishes. What Putin wants, is what Putin gets when it comes to Russian politics, the Russian people be damned.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: gpols

Ukraine was never our Ally. Ukraine is certainly not our Ally now that it is ruled by Fascists installed by the CIA, nor should it ever be.

There was no Russian aggression against the Fascist Junta. Crimea is Russian. Always has been. Corrupt Soviet Politburo members in the 1950s can't change that.

Ukraine should be placed under a crippling embargo until the Kiev Junta is destroyed.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:39 PM
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Putin & Trump are not so much "cozy"...as they are acting like adults.
Is Obama holding his breath and stomping his feet yet?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:39 PM
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Putin's America will be a disaster.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: gpols

putin wants a secure and prosperous russia. when russian people say that dismantling the soviet union was a mistake (and it was) its because if the soviet union was still a thing Russia wouldn't be having problems with its immediate neighbors.

again dont speak on things you dont understand.

and russian people be damned? my people are far better off now than they were before putin came into power. hes made things MUCH MUCH better. and despite that things still suck. they suck because of communism and the russian people know that. again no one thinks there was anything glorious about lack of resources and gulags dude.
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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
Putin's America will be a disaster.


Because reasons ?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: gpols
a reply to: DupontDeux

So you don't think Putin is going to take advantage of Trump and give himself an opening to relive the nostalgia of the USSR he and so many other in the Russian government fantasize about?

You have a living interest in seeing the deescalation of tensions between NATO and Russia, and I would like to see that too, but ultimately all of Putin and his governments moves revolve around the nostalgia of the USSR and bringing that glory back to the Russian Federation.


I get where you are coming from, but no, I do not think that. Or not to a greater extent than if his power was questioned, which everything points to that it would have been with Hillary in command.

There are several reasons for the annexation of Crimea, but I think we would be kidding ourselves if we did not believe one of them to be to assess Russia's (his) power in the face of an ever expanding NATO towards the borders of Russia.

Now, I do not agree that it was the right movie for Russia to do, but I think it was a predictable one, and, from a Russian point of view, an almost necessary one.

The glory of the USSR did not revolve purely around its size, but also - and just as much - around the respect she commanded (and understood itself to receive) from the world. If she cannot have one, she can have the other, (I believe) is a valid reasoning in Russia.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
a reply to: gpols

what glory are you talking about? there was nothing glorious about the soviet union and the russian people know this. dont speak on things you dont understand.


No, OP is spot on. From a Russian (political and nostalgic) point of view, there indeed was something -everything - glorious about the Soviet Union.

And in this context, their point of view is what matter.


Edit: And as far as if this is something I understand and am "allowed to talk about", well I am by no mean an expert in everything Russia, but I do study political science and am a bit of a history buff, and, as a child of the late 70's in Scandinavia, I grew up during the last part cold war very close to the USSR. Understanding the mindset of the Soviets was important to me - to a lot of us.
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