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Putin- Russia will not expel anyone in response to US sanctions

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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I'm still waiting on proof the he actually interfered.

Even if Russia did hack and release those emails, dems must have had some pretty flimsy foundation if a few emails truly toppled them and lost them the election.




posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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Looks like the current Administration has been laughed at again.

Chalk up another failure.




posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: SteamyJeans

If you're still waiting there won't be any getting through to you so it doesn't matter anyway.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Putin and Obama playing a round of golf and are on a dog leg left .Both his a decent drive but its a very tricky shot over the water with a small green surrounded by deep bunkers . Putin is away first and decided to lay up with a 8 iron while Obama digs out a 6 and has to hit it good . Shanks the shot and it rolls into the water . Putin chips and one puts . Obama decides to play the shot from 6 inches of water . After making 3 attempts decides to pack it in and go home to dry off :>) Putin finishes the round at even par .


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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

So the evidence doesn't exist then?

We're just supposed to believe the rogue, terrorist-supporting intelligence state?

I hope Trump purges the Neoliberal warmongers from all government offices and positions. They have no place in the world.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

The evidence exists. It's simply a matter of one...comprehension and two... acceptance.

We all know where trump is on this. LOL



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

He is a war monger. He even said it on video. "I love war ."

Oh course video of him saying that won't prohibit him from denying he said it.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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On the far right you get ultra-nationalists or fascism on the far left you get globalization and protest... the balance of course is the sovereign state. With trade relations and sanctions to keep to U.N. peace accords with humanity having rights beyond those states as sovereign over their own body, speech, and mind.

Many people become political prisoners over various ideologies... seeking ideals that shun everyone else; under a central government this can bring chaos to many different factions trying or vying for control of that central government in some situations corruption is bound to occur from special interests that bring less equality and less human rights fueling the fires around and around... the central body is supposed to govern and hammer out justice without such bias and the legislature is meant to trim what doesn't work and create laws to ensure what does.

If we look at the beginnings of the "Red scare" when Russia was trying to help Cuba in it's defense against curruption the seeking of casinos and a place to launder in off shore accounts of the global black market... we can see how this sort of mirrors the U.S. helping countries set up arms on Russias borders looks similar.

N.A.T.O. was supposed to bring peace and trust between all of those involved; not used as leverage to turn around and give Russia a taste of the Bay of Pigs... but that is what has been occuring.

When the U.S.S.R. dissolved many nation states were added with various government heads; some of them corrupt and only seeking for power grabs and fueling their own agenda with a wink and a nod for power grabs using various proxies that once reach a state of power from funding; turn around an bite the hand that feeds them. Every conflict since WW2 has been a proxy war; arming and funding small groups in order to do some sort of wet work to aid and further political agendas.

Of course the propaganda machine needs to be in full swing for such sentiments and programming to be effective; hence the current war on "fake news" so that only state sanctioned propaganda will reach the masses to inform er I mean form peoples opinion and rouse whatever sentiment they need to on the national level in order to further whatever agenda that the public will be kept in the dark over.

It was an is in Russias best interest to not allow such proxies to get too close and of course some of the neighboring statehoods full of corruption and infiltraition agree and have sentiment to Russia so that arms and money does not fuel corruption and over throw their own central governments from within and end up in a war torn totalitarian regime that leans heavy on fascism simply to further globalist agendas.

It's the propaganda itself that comes back and causes the dog to bite it's own tail; from the tales told and the reasons given that the people have also bit hook, line, and sinker... from having their fear and sentiment whipped to a frensy in the public forum of debate.

The U.S. this past election season and leading up to it; has had a divide and conquer approach... keeping the people divided on petty issues by focusing on them in the MSM while their agendas go full steam ahead on the world stage or essentially plucking out one eye so that the other is blind to the whole picture. Of course past propaganda is still embedded; and it keeps co-operation from occuring on the world stage by countries that are not only supposed to be allies but friends... the influence is those looking to trade their wares by getting cheap labor and exploiting resources while buying out or ceasing control of brands around the world in consumerism... aka the globalist agenda.

Of course; if someone is only focused on one's own well being, they are going to secretly hate or dispise their neighbor... when those sentiments are roused and the central points a finger and says your quality of life sucks because of these people... then it's shifted blame avoiding personal responsibility; the same thing goes on in North Korea that blames sanctions for why the people are suffering, Middle Eastern leaders do the same thing and it becomes death to America etc.

People sit and sractch their heads wondering why and then have the attitude of well screw them... as the U.S. citizenry is pretty cloistered and hermetically sealed many of the population has never and will never cross a border to be exposed to other cultures other than the service person at a place of business or the constant stream of propaganda saying how horrible and scary everyone else around the world is. When around the world it is common to cross borders and frequenty do so.

The propaganda says keep them as enemies even when they offer help... why? Because then the lie of past propaganda is exposed... and the futility that one's ancestors lived, fought, and died for? Seem as a joke and that they gave their lives for a futility a slight of hand... instead of one for truth, strength, and had an actual heart behind it.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

He is a war monger. He even said it on video. "I love war ."

Oh course video of him saying that won't prohibit him from denying he said it.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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Slow browser.
edit on 12302016 by Sillyolme because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Where is it then? Filed next to Iraqi WMDs perhaps?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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Please offer me one legit source.

I'm open to it.

I would love to be on your bandwagon it must be so much easier to live just going with the info stream.

So, please enlighten a brother.



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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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as Putin appears to have taken the moral high ground here. The bait was dangled with Obama removing Russian diplomats,


Funny, because if these two things were reversed, I'm sure the lot of you people would be screaming "Look at how weak Obama is! He won't even expel the Russian diplomats/ambassadors but Putin is being a strong leader!"

Love the absolute hypocrisy with some of you people when it fits YOUR narrative.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Why would Obama need to expel diplomats? Russia didn't take any action to justify this. Obama could literally just sit around twiddling his thumbs, it would be a more appropriate course of action.

In fact, that's all Obama should be doing for the next 3 weeks.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

Russia expelled two diplomats in June/July after it was alleged they were CIA operatives. Perhaps this is all retaliation.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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War.

If someone tries to punish you by expelling 35 diplomats, and you don't react in a way that confirms you felt punished, by expelling some in return, then that makes the punisher think that it was not significant enough to send the message.

Putin's best response would have been to "announce" he's expelling 35 diplomats, but then delay the action until Trump gets in power, and reverse the decision then when things have changed in their favor.

Instead, he puts the current US administration in the position of having to up the stakes, to ensure the message was effective.

That means a military strike somewhere in the world that Russia cares about, reversing some Russian gains, is probably coming before Jan 20th.

The mightiest nation in the world, does not maintain its might, by being ignored.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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I think it was a lovely gesture for Putin to invite US diplomats' children to a Holiday party and tour of the Kremlin...instead of kicking their families out of the country.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

As a sign of Mccarthyism in closing borders and securing one's own resources as the world economy has weakened they are drawing back into themselves to regain strength.

Not all countries need trade when rich with natural resources; they can bubble up and be powered by their own workforce from within.

Of course; the issue when doing such a thing; is those countries that rely heavily on trade because they have few natural resources to exploit and too many people with not enough work... start banding together against those that do.

It has been going around that way for centuries; so is it any wonder such a cycle would arise again in self protectionism? Conservatism would rather exploit other countries resources at the lowest cost possible and the excuse other countries have in allowing it is the growth or industrialization it offers... if trade ceases the factories are in place to produce whatever goods for the statehood and populous it contains. The idea of conservation means not using one's own resources or holding out in doing so for as long as possible for "in case sh!t".

This isn't rocket science when seen on the global scale in operation.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
I think it was a lovely gesture for Putin to invite US diplomats' children to a Holiday party and tour of the Kremlin...instead of kicking their families out of the country.


Smart political move by Putin.

If Trump roles back the sanctions it makes him and America look weak. If Trump leaves them in place he looks like he is walking back his stance that Russia did nothing, weakening him as president.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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putin doesn`t need to do anything except wait for 3 weeks for Obama to leave and then all of these childish things that Obama has done will be undone.



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