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Those are children starving because they have no parents and no income.
I want everyone who wants a job to have a job, and to have the best job they can get.
I also understand that this is the Mud Pit and is the OP's chosen arena to speak to. As such the OP likely understands that many of the posters will do exactly what you say and veer from topic and make personal attacks and whatnot. If you look at all of the OP's threads in the Mud Pit it is a common theme. He doesn't seem to shy away from it, nor try to prevent it from happening, so I gather it is an intended reaction to garner more views and reactions from those that oppose his views.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: MagicCow
Did I send that to the wrong person???
Please pass that to the nearest Radical Trump Supporter.
originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: mOjOm
Having run a business in the past, and having watched my children run their business, I'm quite aware of the impacts of the Dept. of Labor and how far their tentacles can reach. With each change of administration there is much ado and gnashing of teeth. I do not, however, believe that we are going to be putting grammar school children to work in the coal mines.
I'd venture to say that most minimum wage jobs are in the service industry---food and hospitality. And even in those industries, if one performs well, the wage is increased on a regular basis. My lawn service starts guys at minimum but by the time they prove they can operate a weed-eater efficiently, they've gained a raise. It's amazing to me how many of them can't even operate a weed-eater or lawn mower.
I'd venture to say that most minimum wage jobs are in the service industry---food and hospitality.
My lawn service starts guys at minimum but by the time they prove they can operate a weed-eater efficiently, they've gained a raise. It's amazing to me how many of them can't even operate a weed-eater or lawn mower.
Do you see it as a good thing that progress is being used as a threat against working class people by executives interested in squeezing out the last drops of profit before replacing workers with kiosks?
At what point do we acknowledge the reality of our changing circumstances and work out a solution?
Perhaps you could argue the rationale beyond preserving a system that only works for a small percentage of the population while a larger percentage is getting left out in the cold?
t's funny that a lot of Trump supporters voted for Trump
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Healthcare should never become "automated" and robotic. I have a very sick child, and sometimes the intuition of the parent combined with the years of experience of the doctor saves lives.
There is no replacement for human assessment and compassion in the healthcare field...
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Now you're just being ridiculous. Progressives are calling for "non-progress in tech that is automating jobs" and pushing for "open borders?" That's news to me. Sure, there are some progressives who are for open borders just as there are some conservatives (including many libertarians) who are for open borders. Then there are others who believe that in the future, some degree of "open borders" policy might be a good idea.
Let's set all that aside though and examine the crux of your assertion — reducing population increases jobs.
Well gee. I guess we can thank our lucky stars for all those abortions then right? Oh, wait! That's not how economies work! Like other people, illegal aliens purchase goods and services from businesses that *gasp* employ people.
Hold on there Bernie Vasa Croe Clinton! I'm all for education and there's certainly nothing wrong with producing more engineers and the like but that's not really a solution to the problem of human labor being phased out by technology. Creating new industries certainly isn't a bad idea either but unless you're creating jobs that robots can't do and making a good or providing a service that other countries are unable to provide, the net result in the long term is no change.
That is in fact what many in business are doing and have been doing, including Puzder. No, it won't happen overnight but once it happens, it won't take long.
There are almost 4 million people working in fast food now. Leisure and hospitality in total? 15 million. Retail? Another 15 million plus. The jobs that have been lost to automation and outsourcing aren't coming back, at least not in any sort of numbers that are going to make much difference. It's weird that you basically seem to be agreeing with me on many points now but here's you in the post I was replying to:
If we all agree that progress is reducing the need for human labor, wtf are you going on about with "these are all things that the person themselves brought on themselves?" That's some kind of crazy conservative cognitive dissonance.
Just to reiterate: progress isn't a bad thing. I'm not anti-automation. In fact, I'm very much pro-automation. The problem is technological progress, it's that we're not progressing the employment model accordingly so instead of the benefits of that progress trickling down through society, the wealthy are simply making more money than ever while we're eliminating people from the workforce and supplementing employment deficits with social welfare.
I think our positions are probably closer than they appear but you seem intent on holding on to some outmoded conservative rhetoric that I interpret as blaming the unemployed/underemployed.
Unauthorized immigrants are particularly concentrated in some subsets of each major industry. In 2012, they represented 24% of workers in the landscaping industry, 23% of those in private household employment, 20% of those in apparel manufacturing, 20% in crop production, 19% in the dry cleaning and laundry industry and 19% of those in building maintenance.
originally posted by: banjobrain
I think working class right wingers are too detached from reality to understand what the Trump presidency means for people who work, as opposed to the investor class.
People like Trump see higher wages as impacting profit, essentially the more workers earn, the less people like Trump
earn. This is the default position for right wing politicians in general which is why labor laws are attacked, unions are broken,
regulations are abandoned.
It seems like right wingers do not even really comprehend what the people they vote for, stand for. Of course Trump and his gang are gonna slash all the income they can from working people, that is how people like him, rich elite people get richer faster.
Many employees would indeed prefer to work and get paid instead of taking a mandatory UNPAID break