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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

Oh by the way - your gal lost. Deal with it.

You may also like to deal with the fact that Trump will pick the people he sees fit and Congress will confirm them. Your partisan, odious, bitching is not going to change that.


I knew it. You don't even know what my position is. You're arguing against a false narrative that you've made up yourself.

I NEVER SUPPORTED HILLARY. I DON'T CARE THAT SHE LOST. HER LOSS DOESN'T CHANGE MY POSITION ON ANYTHING.

You have a head full of bad and incorrect information that you assume is correct.

I'm done here. At least take the time to know what the position is of the person your arguing with next time so it makes sense.




posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Oh and let's also not forget amazon trying to put UPS and FedEx out of business with drone delivery...and who does Bezos love...HRC and the dems...but don't let them covering up HRC's bad book reviews bias your opinion.



Drone delivery is not the new wave of innovation in a new day but a reflection of profit margin/labor cost driven madness in the world today. Everyone will save! Might I suggest a trade in drone repair. Better get on the ground floor!



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Kinda baffled as to why nobody is crapping all over Google in this thread. I mean they bought the top 8 robotics companies in the US about 2 years ago and have been actively pursuing multiple projects, including the self driving car. Who do they think they are trying to cut me out of my driving privilege? Damn you Google!!!!!

True story....they fund a lot of dems including HRC...and are likely the top robotics company in the country, but yeah Puzder bad...vewy bad...


Or the fact that the Puzder is not even close to being a pioneer of automation in the restaurant business. His argument for automation is in fact linked to minimum wage and is more of a warning of the economics of pushing wages too high to the point where automation becomes even more viable. By yeah, it's all Trump's pick's fault.


Oh yea we sure wouldn't want to lose those very valuable hamburger jobs to a dam robot! Already lost the auto industry to robots and cheep labor. LOL Whats going to happen is robots making hamburgers anyway and all this talk about wages
is just conditioning to get us used to it. Shareholders are really looking at the labor overhead as it is and robots could help them keep the beech home in these trying economic times.


That is exactly the point Puzder is making. One of his arguments AGAINST a $15 min wage is that economically a businessman is going to look at the bottom line and find ways to maintain profit levels. Moral or not, he's right.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: UKTruth

Oh by the way - your gal lost. Deal with it.

You may also like to deal with the fact that Trump will pick the people he sees fit and Congress will confirm them. Your partisan, odious, bitching is not going to change that.


I knew it. You don't even know what my position is. You're arguing against a false narrative that you've made up yourself.

I NEVER SUPPORTED HILLARY. I DON'T CARE THAT SHE LOST. HER LOSS DOESN'T CHANGE MY POSITION ON ANYTHING.

You have a head full of bad and incorrect information that you assume is correct.

I'm done here. At least take the time to know what the position is of the person your arguing with next time so it makes sense.


Yeah sure. Hillbot all the way.
Glad you're done. You're boring with your constant anti-Trump nonsense.
edit on 30/12/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Oh and let's also not forget amazon trying to put UPS and FedEx out of business with drone delivery...and who does Bezos love...HRC and the dems...but don't let them covering up HRC's bad book reviews bias your opinion.



Drone delivery is not the new wave of innovation in a new day but a reflection of profit margin/labor cost driven madness in the world today. Everyone will save! Might I suggest a trade in drone repair. Better get on the ground floor!


Nah...amazon will likely find a way to build them so cheap they are just trashed when they either crash or break from wear.

My interest is how they are going to handle when one goes down with packages before it gets to the delivery point. Will they have a recovery team or something?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Kinda baffled as to why nobody is crapping all over Google in this thread. I mean they bought the top 8 robotics companies in the US about 2 years ago and have been actively pursuing multiple projects, including the self driving car. Who do they think they are trying to cut me out of my driving privilege? Damn you Google!!!!!

True story....they fund a lot of dems including HRC...and are likely the top robotics company in the country, but yeah Puzder bad...vewy bad...


Or the fact that the Puzder is not even close to being a pioneer of automation in the restaurant business. His argument for automation is in fact linked to minimum wage and is more of a warning of the economics of pushing wages too high to the point where automation becomes even more viable. By yeah, it's all Trump's pick's fault.


Oh yea we sure wouldn't want to lose those very valuable hamburger jobs to a dam robot! Already lost the auto industry to robots and cheep labor. LOL Whats going to happen is robots making hamburgers anyway and all this talk about wages
is just conditioning to get us used to it. Shareholders are really looking at the labor overhead as it is and robots could help them keep the beech home in these trying economic times.


They already outsourced everything they could to make a buck.
As everyone knows, we are now a "service economy" as the elite tell us

The problem is they cannot outsource McDonalds or Walmart Jobs so they threaten the workers now with automation.
it is the next corporatism step in profits over people.

Back in the early days of this country before Fast Food chains and Huge Corporate Conglomerates took over, you had mostly small business across the country. Those small business owners knew their workers personally and ate with them and did not live in the next city over or across the country or world like today's corporate CEO's.

There is no soul nor ethics anymore to it.
There used to be because I remember it.

It was not always about the bottom line and shareholders, it was about families, giving to the community and caring about others

That is now all gone and all we are left with is a Satanic System



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Your willful ignorance is simply amazing.

As is your ability to lie without any shame.

Glad it's documented forever on the internet so there can be no doubt as to your credibility from this point on.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: UKTruth

Your willful ignorance is simply amazing.

As is your ability to lie without any shame.

Glad it's documented forever on the internet so there can be no doubt as to your credibility from this point on.


I thought you were gone? I was quite pleased for a second there that we'd see no more of your drivel smeared all over the place. You are right though.. it's forever here that you have not actually engaged in a discussion about the Labour Sec. but were arrogant enough to tell anyone who mentioned Trump to do so. Even now you don't seem to want to have any discussion and just want to continue your inane nonsense.
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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth


That is exactly the point Puzder is making. One of his arguments AGAINST a $15 min wage is that economically a businessman is going to look at the bottom line and find ways to maintain profit levels. Moral or not, he's right.


The problem is Puzder has no right in determining what is economically feasible in the market economy but that does not stop a bunch of economic financial terrorist from lobbying to open the gates to cheap labor.

If were not for Trade Agreements and NAFTA put forth by Corporatists, wages would be above 15 bucks an hour when you consider Americans made more in the 70's adjusted for inflation than they do today.

We have been under attack in this country by these jackals for the past 30 years and it is not policies from the poor passed off onto their puppet politicians

People like Puzder and a lot of other corporate lobbyists absolutely HATE market determined wages which is why they outsource, offshore, lobby for more H1Bs or Hire Illegal Labor.

Joe tells me if people are going to demand a wage, what is the highest wage then, 10, 15 30 bucks an hour?
I tell him, many people have settled on 15 bucks an hour.
I ask Joe, what is the highest percentage of profits as being acceptable?
He tells me there is no limit, they should be able to get all they can. Unlike the minimum wager, he never settles for an amount.
Do people not see the flaw in this logic then, it is never enough then, and when you have corporate lobbyists owning DC, they will continue to feeding their pockets while killing this nation. There is no limit for them

If it were not for people like Puzder, this country would be in a lot better shape for all Americans instead of for the top elite playing Casino Games on Wall Street with other peoples money.

Lets throw more Bail Outs and QE Infinity to Prop them up
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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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Of course unions hate Trump.

He actually makes them work for a living.

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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

originally posted by: UKTruth


That is exactly the point Puzder is making. One of his arguments AGAINST a $15 min wage is that economically a businessman is going to look at the bottom line and find ways to maintain profit levels. Moral or not, he's right.


The problem is Puzder has no right in determining what is economically feasible in the market economy but that does not stop a bunch of economic financial terrorist from lobbying to open the gates to cheap labor.

If were not for Trade Agreements and NAFTA put forth by Corporatists, wages would be above 15 bucks an hour when you consider Americans made more in the 70's adjusted for inflation than they do today.

We have been under attack in this country by these jackals for the past 30 years and it is not policies from the poor passed off onto their puppet politicians

People like Puzder and a lot of other corporate lobbyists absolutely HATE market determined wages which is why they outsource or offshore or move to another country.

If it were not for people like Puzder, this country would be in a lot better shape for all Americans instead of for the top elite playing Casino Games on Wall Street with other peoples money.

Lets throw more Bail Outs and QE Infinity to Prop them up


I agree almost completely with your post, and you sound like Trump did during the campaign.

Where I slightly disagree is that I don't judge an individual like Puzder based on one comment or position - rather a basket of positions. I don't think he will be allowed to deviate from Trumps direction. Like I said, if Trumps direction does not match his campaign then he's in trouble, so appointees like Puzder won't be long in office anyway.
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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Jenkinswasher
Of course unions hate Trump.

He actually makes them work for a living.



Labor Rights as required under Capitalism is not the threat in this country

www.opensecrets.org...

Misc Business $7,386,669,643
Health $7,270,583,468
Finance/Insur/RealEst $7,221,193,232
Communic/Electronics $5,820,333,696
Energy/Nat Resource $5,260,334,235
Other $3,702,497,994
Transportation $3,625,986,867
Ideology/Single-Issue $2,322,660,678
Agribusiness $2,141,335,042
Defense $2,057,240,394
Construction $787,269,841
Labor $708,335,336
Lawyers & Lobbyists $455,850,332

There is your labor, now add up all the others sectors to see who is winning

Big Business



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

You and I are saying the same thing.

No More Monsanto, Big Aerospace, Big Pharma, and all the rest of the crapola.

Verified.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth


Where I slightly disagree is that I don't judge an individual like Puzder based on one comment or position - rather a basket of positions. I don't think he will be allowed to deviate from Trumps direction. Like I said, if Trumps direction does not match his campaign then he's in trouble, so appointees like Puzder won't be long in office anyway.


And I was initally for Trump until he started talking to Kissinger, a non politician, the head of the CFR and then loaded his cabinet with Goldman Sachs Boys.

There is absolutely NOTHING that requires Trump to talk to these people politically or lawfully, nor hire Goldman Sachs Boys but he did and for that, he deserves the fire coming.

Some people tell me Trump picked some successful people
Out of 350+ Million People in this country, only Goldman Sachs Boys are the successful ones?
There are thousands of smart bankers and businessmen across the country from regional banks and business but only Goldman Sachs Boys that have infested our government for the last 30 years are the successful ones?

Others tell me Trump picked our enemies and he has to keep them close

I am so sick of the games and lies and it is not going to work anymore.

Trump is going to be like Obama, like Bush and like Clinton serving the elite on Wall Street and the Corporate Lobbyists

The only thing that will change is the dam "team" rhetoric where they pick apart Trumps statements like they did Obama's to divide this country


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posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

I thought you were gone?


Yeah?? I thought you'd be familiar with being wrong by now so why act surprised??



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: Jenkinswasher
a reply to: jacobe001

You and I are saying the same thing.

No More Monsanto, Big Aerospace, Big Pharma, and all the rest of the crapola.

Verified.


I agree, but unfortunately the money bribed to politicians increases every year and I do not see how Trump can keep that from happening to politicians to the left and to the right of him.

Drain the Swamp to me and many others meant flusing out the Crony Capitalists.
Instead, Trump loaded up his cabinet with Crony Capitalists, and all those in the Senate will continue to play their games as well



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

All right then how about we Bribe our own politicians and create a new Country?



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: Jenkinswasher
a reply to: jacobe001

All right then how about we Bribe our own politicians and create a new Country?


With what Money?
The very lobbyists bribing politicians come from sources that own 70% of the wealth in this country

It gets even worse

Majority of political candidates come not from small and medium successful business or from your average American but from these same large corporations that have their lobbyists planted in Washington DC.

We do not have capitalism in this country but Corporatism



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

With the same Fake Money George Soros was able to create out of thin air. Maybe this is why Trump wants to get back onto the Gold standard after Nixon obliterated it.

Seriously there's a way to take it back.



posted on Dec, 30 2016 @ 10:04 PM
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Oh boy, I haven't seen such nitpicking and teeth gnashing since Ronald Reagan won. Back then the Dems were screaming that he would have us in a nuclear war within 3 months of taking office. They put all his appointees under a microscope (guess he's lucky the net didn't exist then!) and found published reports of times they made statements that were contrary to party doctrine.

Trump is a businessman, not a politician. I think the campaign confirmed that fact. He knows how to turn businesses around and when to dump them. He's been quite successful at it. People who have worked with him and for him say he is a fair man and a good employer. Like Reagan, he listened to what people were saying and he reacted. I'm sure he'll do some good stuff, possibly dump some government programs that just aren't working, perhaps make changes to make them more efficient. He's used to being responsible with money. He knows how hard it is to make and keep it. He understands, as no career politician can, the burden of government regulation. Until you've actually run a business, even a tiny business---you can't know what a headache the rules and regulations can be.

To those who are snarling about "It's all about the bottom line..." you've got it exactly right. Just like in your personal finances, it's all about the bottom line. You have to consider income before spending. You have to consider overhead costs and how to manage them. You have to plan for future expenses and attempt to calculate what they might be so you can lay enough money aside to provide for those costs. If you fail to consider these things in your personal finances you will end up broke, hungry, homeless and walking to your destination. The business will end up bankrupt, the employees will be unemployed and a good or service is removed from the economy. Nobody wins.

People rant about multi-national corporations and yet they line up in those very places of business and swipe their cards, giving them more money and thus, more power. If you think MickeyD's and WallyWorld are the bane of civilization, for goodness' sake, don't give them your money. If you think the only good Amazon is the river, don't do business with them or any of these influence-buying corporations. It is entirely possible to live a happy life without contributing to their wealth and power.

I'm not a Trump supporter or a Trump hater. I'm curious to see how his administration progresses. I've watched the preview in our Commonwealth. Last year we elected a businessman as our governor. It has been interesting to watch the dying Democrat party see how much they could pile up and lob at him as he worked to keep his campaign promises to the people. He's made some missteps but at least he's trying to keep his word and in the process he's shown the really unseemly side of the Democrats. I'm hopeful that with a Republican administration in DC, the Justice Dept. will continue what they've begun in exposing and prosecuting some of the corruption that has festered in Frankfort for a very long time.

Who knows? Perhaps what we need is someone who has actually been out there in the world working and paying taxes and contributing to the economy rather than an academic who is full of theory and short on experience.



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