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Build A House In 1 Day!

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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Actually, the record for building a house was set back in the 80's 90's and it was under 3 hours. I have been doing a search on the web for info and a link but I am comming up dry.
I recently was watching a video on it. It took months of planning and a total of 750 people working in 2 separate teams building 2 homes to complete. I know that the Habitat for Humanity managed to do it in 4 hours.
Just a little bit of trivia for you.


Actually its 1 hour. Google up "Inflatable Concrete domes".

www.findarticles.com...

here is one link talking about it. You also might want to search for a show called "Extreme Engineering" The episode about the Shumizu Megacity Pyramid. They actually show the video of them raising this huge dome, amazing stuff imo.

[edit on 28-1-2005 by sardion2000]




posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:55 PM
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This is quite the interesting topic. I like the idea but would it really work?

I mean it does seem far-fetched. Building a house in one day?

Plus, I think it would cost a lot at first, as any new technology will. Computers, VCRS and DVD players have dropped in price and our now really cheap.

I'll save the idea for the future.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Murcielago

Originally posted by ben91069
EDIT:Oh wait, actually after I glimpsed the pdf file, I figured out it was really far fetched and propoganda at best.
[edit on 28-1-2005 by ben91069]

So you think its all a hoax?...In short...Wrong.


Ha ha, I knew that would get a rise out of somebody. No, I don't think it is a hoax. It is certainly not a pipe dream either, but the problem is, that automating everything pretty much means the extinction of any type of skilled labor and true craftsmen will be a thing of the past. The benefits of having a system like this only helps a few people - like the company who owns this monstrousity. It will kill a large labor force, so effectively I consider it propaganda to try to talk how wonderful automated technology is. The same thing occurred in the manufacturing sector in the US through the last 40 years when we switched from manual machine tools to CNC machine tools. The employers standard speech is that they are money saving and will free up your time so you can work less. In fact, the opposite is true; automation takes away the tactile skill a worker has and only frees up a workers time enough for the employer to find more menial tasks for them to do. The guys I knew running CNC machinery that never made a transition from the old methods to the new, knew nothing about machining theories and how to work with metal. Instead, all they knew was how to program and numbers and codes. Their is something special to be said of something made skillfully by a worker rather than a mass produced item that was created by machines.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 05:51 PM
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Ben I know where you are coming from(well I don't none of us truely do only our parents and grand-parents do) but from all the research I have done the Creative Destruction paradigm cannot be stopped, the only thing that can truely stop it is the Technological Singularity but that is a whole nother topic
. It can be slowed but not stopped alltogether. As someone said above for every door that is closed another is opened. I do not believe automation will completely replace human workers, it will just replace the workers that it was meant to meanwhile creating whole new areas for employment in maintaining these "beasts" as you call them. Technology is not the enemy it is those who abuse it who are the enemy. I can see this technology being used on the Moon and Mars for instance, just send up the pieces and assemble them on-site. Probably a whole lot more complicated then that though. This transition phase is probably going to be painfull, probably more painfull then the depression, but when we come out of it I believe we will see a totally different world. Better or Worse its probably whats going to happen. BTW I doubt that this technology will totally replace traditional homebuilding but just imagine how efficient Habitat for Humanity could become.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 06:09 PM
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As a contractore I find this funny and FALSE. not to mention the cure time by building codes between stucco coats are day's , not to mention the foudation cure and the red tape. no matter what T.V. shows tye pennigton geting done in a week it's fake. there's no way it can bee done less than 30 day's.
Thanks for the laugh though.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Actually, the record for building a house was set back in the 80's 90's and it was under 3 hours. I have been doing a search on the web for info and a link but I am comming up dry.
I recently was watching a video on it. It took months of planning and a total of 750 people working in 2 separate teams building 2 homes to complete. I know that the Habitat for Humanity managed to do it in 4 hours.
Just a little bit of trivia for you.


No no, Johnathan Zimmerman broke all the records with his air formed concrete domes, he built a recreational center in a day, and a home in two hours..

Here's a link to an article about his new technology, I believe these buildings are highly efficient, and to build onother house of his in such a short period of time wouldn't be difficult.

www.architectureweek.com...



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 01:19 AM
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Sorry, Zardion I didn't see your post...

I love Mr. Zimmermans work, the domes are beautiful and the most efficient structures I've ever seen online or in real life.

[edit on 29-1-2005 by faddinglight]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 02:02 AM
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No no, Johnathan Zimmerman broke all the records with his air formed concrete domes, he built a recreational center in a day, and a home in two hours..


I didn't see im your link any records being set.
Are you saying, he finished the house completely in two hours( groundwork, foundation, concrete,electrical,plumbing,hvac,windows doors paint etc) Or he just had the concrete shell.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by Skibum



No no, Johnathan Zimmerman broke all the records with his air formed concrete domes, he built a recreational center in a day, and a home in two hours..


I didn't see im your link any records being set.
Are you saying, he finished the house completely in two hours( groundwork, foundation, concrete,electrical,plumbing,hvac,windows doors paint etc) Or he just had the concrete shell.

He had everything finished... The one who posted before me was speeking of the same person and he did provide a better link then me.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 02:40 AM
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2 hours, I would have to say no.
I can't find anything to back it up and by reading the other link where they say things like:

Foam Application Before polyurethane foam is sprayed, a primer is applied over the entire inside Airform surface and left to dry for 12 to 20 hours.

They may have poured the concrete in two hours. But a complete house I would disagree with. It takes time for concrete to dry. You don't paint wet concrete .



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 02:46 AM
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The concrete and the raising took an hour actually in the video I saw. All the other stuff SkiBum mention took about the rest of the day to setup and complete. Finishing probably longer, but such is the same with any other house. The impressive part is completing about 70% of the structure in 1 hour.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 03:09 AM
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Amagine how easy everything could be if all the electrical devices were equiped with antenas and Teslas Wireless Electrical Transmiter was completed. We'd have to do no wiring. Water could be collected via those new machines that harvest water from the air (almost like in starwars). The floors could be easily layed out with tiles, or rug. Shelves, wood materials, and all the unneccesitys could be prepared while the dome was being inflated.

[edit on 29-1-2005 by faddinglight]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 03:12 AM
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In the extreme case allmost everything is automated we would have no people making money by labour, so how could they buy stuff ?

The fully automated soceity seems self-defeating, UNLESS it all becomes a neo-socialist soceity where the robots are handed out free by the government to the people to work for them. Naturally it is human nature that people in high places still will be "more free" and having more robots and nanotech than others...


[edit on 29-1-2005 by Countermeasures]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by Countermeasures
In the extreme case allmost everything is automated we would have no people making money by labour, so how could they buy stuff ?

The fully automated soceity seems self-defeating, UNLESS it all becomes a neo-socialist soceity where the robots are handed out free by the government to the people to work for them. Naturally it is human nature that people in high places still will be "more free" and having more robots and nanotech than others...


[edit on 29-1-2005 by Countermeasures]



This is my point exactly, and I don't mean to dis technology. GM decides in 1970 to replace a line of 50 painters with robotic arms to spray car bodies and in 75' the profits will pay for the investment. After this, GM never pays the labor again and those 50 guys are out of work, while a new group of people are involved in maintaining thes bots - much less than 50. GM cuts costs. There may be a new group of people designing robots, but they are probably more educated in engineering, and they will never benefit the 50 guys they displaced. The net effect is that high tech jobs become prevelant and the average Joe worker making a living wage is forced to work at a meatball job or get a degree. It is fine to be intelligent and all, but everyone in society does not need to be required to have a degree to earn a decent living. My grandfather worked his whole life in a factory with a high school education and did just fine and even had a large estate to pass down from his own efforts. No one today can say they can make a decent wage with enough to have left over with a high school education, due to the fact that the good jobs require highly specialized skills and degrees. Automation will kill the labor market eventually, and housing costs will not go down because a house can be built in a day.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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wow, geeeeez Ben, a little pessimistic huh.


The example you gave of GM cutting the painters is a good one, so they may leave the company but with all there experience it wouldn't be to hard to find a new job as a painter somewhere else.

I welcome automation, it will make things cheaper, if you dont like robots then there is probably a carboard box in Africa waiting for you, because you cant stop the automated world. Millions of people dont even vacuum there own carpet these days because of vacuums like Roomba. There will always be jobs for people, some good ones like the engineer who designs the latest robot, or you may be the guy that performs the maintainence on them when they break down.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Murcielago
There will always be jobs for people, some good ones like the engineer who designs the latest robot, or you may be the guy that performs the maintainence on them when they break down.


You are assuming that every worker is capable getting/achieving a higher education. Sure, there may be more high-tech jobs, but not everyone is qualified for these. It will create a larger gap between lower income wage earners and middle/upper income earners. Technology is fine if used in moderation, but could be our downfall if we become intoxicated by its wonders. Even the invention of the television has dumbed down society even though it could also be used to educate people.

So you hire a few engineers and a couple maintenance guys to replace 50 skilled workers, what are you suggesting that there is another assembly line or enough auto body shops needing all these workers? You have increased your bottom line, but displaced 50 guys that have families and depend on a good job to pay the bills.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 08:08 PM
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seems like you fear change.

and BTW, nothing is stoping the lower class to co to college or a tech school and get a better higher paying job.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 08:24 PM
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I thought of the idea of being able to have someone employ your own robot that could make money for you, like all things, it'll most likely happen. I've went to a bar with a robotic bartender before, it was a special event held by a university.

I wonder if hospitals will ever become completely robotic, robotic surgeons are beginning to be used today.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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faddinglight
robotic surgeons are beginning to be used today.

really? any links?



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Murcielago
seems like you fear change.

and BTW, nothing is stoping the lower class to co to college or a tech school and get a better higher paying job.


Change is not always good, and there is nothing that says we need to change all the time. There is nothing wrong with smelling the roses in life and keeping the status quo. Change always involves work and frankly it isn't necessary.

You are incorrect that nothing is stopping people from becoming more educated. There is a lot that stops people, the main one being intelligence, and probably the second being financial resources. Not everyone is destined to hold a high tech job, but that doesn't mean they should be thrown to the dogs in life because they aren't smart. They should still be able to work in a blue collar environment and be able to sustain a family. By creating a class of people that are below poverty you are welcoming a lot of problems. Many people who once made a good living cannot do so today, because technology knocked them off the pedestal. I was the best board draftsman my college teacher ever saw, but thanks to CAD, any idiot can draw an engineering drawing. The skill is now gone and so is the demand for this type of work. In 1940 my skills would be sought after, but now it is a requirement for people to constantly work more and more to change. It is fine to change for yourself if you want it, but to do so because you are forced to is wrong.




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