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The Final Battle in The Book of Revelation

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posted on Jan, 27 2005 @ 11:40 PM
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The Final Battle

The Book of Revelation and many other prophecies in the Bible describe a “Final Battle” between the good and the evil that will occur right before the Final Judgment of God. People are very interested in this matter and generally view this “Final Battle” as a large-scale destructive military confrontation that will take place in the Middle East among many different countries. In reality, this is a very big misunderstanding.

The beast is described as “having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” (Rev.13:1) “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies….And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.” (Rev 13:5-6). In modern terms, this refers to the beast’s using every kind of media outlet to attack and blaspheme God. The Book of Daniel of the Old Testament also talks about how the beast keeps using his mouth to blaspheme against God. God is the one “which searcheth the reins and hearts” (Rev.2:23). All these prove that the “Final Battle” is not referring to the type of military confrontation that people are familiar with. Besides blaspheming against God, “it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.” (Rev.13:7). Therefore, the “Final Battle” is not a war in the human world. It is more similar to the persecution suffered by Jesus and his followers under the Roman Empire.

Then what is this “Final Battle?” The answer is clear once we take a look at what Jiang has done since July 20th of 1999. Out of selfishness and jealousy, he has used his power to set aside the laws and has taken advantage of all the media outlets to manufacture lies and to frame and slander Falun Gong. He has treated “Truthfulness Benevolence Forbearance” as his Number One Enemy. He has done everything he could and used all the resources available throughout China to persecute Falun Gong. He has used every kind of torture method known to man from the ancient time to today in both China and abroad to persecute the numerous Falun Gong practitioners. How similar this is to the persecution that Christians had suffered at the hands of the Roman Empire! The only differences are that today’s events are much larger and wider in the scope that they cover, and Jiang’s methods are even more cunning, vicious and evil. Therefore, the extremely evil, vicious and villainous activities being used to persecute “Truthfulness Benevolence Forbearance” are the real “Final Battle.”

“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.” (Rev.16:13-14) The two verses above make it clear that three dirty beings like frogs come out of the mouths of the dragon, the beast and the false prophet, and have gathered the leaders of some countries on earth. Chapter 13 Verses 7 and 8 of the Book of Revelation state that the beast would have his ways throughout the world. “With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been mad sorceries were all nations deceived drunk with the wine of her fornication.” (Rev.17:2) Therefore it is clear that this “Final Battle” that will determine the fate of humanity is not only confined within China but waged all around the world.

Over the past three years, Jiang Zemin’s political cronies have not only been frenziedly persecuting and suppressing “Truthfulness Benevolence Forbearance” within China, they have also been using media outlets and diplomatic channels to spread malicious lies about Falun Gong to governments and people all over the world and tried to poison people everywhere. Breaking from the normal patterns of the Chinese leaders of the past, Jiang has been making frequent trips to countries all over the world. Selling out China’s national interest, he has been trying to make illegitimate deals in exchange for certain countries’ support for his persecution of Falun Gong or limitations of Falun Gong practitioners’ legal rights within these countries. He has consistently tried to use all kinds of despicable methods to spread the state mandated campaign of persecution of Falun Gong to countries all around the world.

The Book of Revelation mentions that “the red dragon is good at deceiving people” (12:9), “the beast is good at deceiving people” (13:14), and the fornicator’s “sorceries were all nations deceived.” (18:23). Precisely because of these deceits and tricks, people all over the world have yet to see through the evil nature of Jiang’s political gang. They have yet to recognize the true nature of Jiang Zemin as the killer who has butchered innocent and kind-hearted Falun Gong practitioners. They have yet to see through the danger that Jiang poses to humanity.

whole article here:
www.pureinsight.org...




posted on Jan, 27 2005 @ 11:48 PM
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I would hardly deem the fate of the Falun Gong movement as a precursor to the end of man. It seems so trivial event judging by the last 5,000 years. Who ever has power will use all means to hold onto it.

There are examples of the usage through out the world. Look at Waco.



posted on Jan, 27 2005 @ 11:55 PM
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Justanotherperson is that YOU??

"Ai Vey" LOL

Did you ever come up with an answer I posed to you in the other Thread??



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:00 AM
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OCT,

Have you ever listened to U2's OCTOBER!!!

I do NOT think Jiang Zemin's....


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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:07 AM
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Revelations from the Bible¡¦s Book of Revelation

Lin Feng

The Book of Revelation from the Bible¡¦s New Testament is a famous collection of prophecies. It was written by John, one of Jesus¡¦ twelve apostles. The author used symbolism to describe the many extraordinary things that he saw would happen in the future. Because of the symbolism, later people have often found the book difficult to understand, even incomprehensible. The author was a cultivator. It is extremely likely that he had the supernormal ability of precognition and retrocognition, and he truthfully recorded the scenes he saw at his level that would happen in the future. He used symbolism and subtle hints to forewarn the people of the world. Of course it was not possible for the author to know that the cosmos would undergo Fa-rectification. Therefore the Book of Revelation has its limitations. But the many scenes described in the book are very apt descriptions of things that are happening in Mainland China today. The followings are some preliminary explorations into the book. It is strictly my own personal understanding and written in the hope that it will inspire more in-depth research and discussions.





Red Dragon, the Beast, and Forty Two Months


Chapter 12 of the Book of Revelation describes an extremely vicious and cruel red dragon. This red dragon and its followers wage a battle with gods in the sky and in the end are slain and fall onto the ground. ¡§And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world.¡¨ (Rev. 12:9) It reminded me of the founders of the Party who, in their Communist Manifesto, openly referred to Communism as a specter of that which was already haunting Europe. The former Soviet army called itself the ¡§Red Army.¡¨ The army of the Chinese Communist Party was called the ¡§Red Bandits.¡¨ The party flags of all the Communist Parties all over the world were blood red in color. It is obvious that the ¡§red dragon¡¨ refers to the Communist Party. In a famous Chinese prophecy called ¡§the Plum Blossom Poem,¡¨ there are references to a ¡§fire dragon.¡¨ When deciphering the last three stanzas of the Plum Blossom Poem, Master Li said, ¡§In the lowest dimension of the heavens, China¡¦s Communist party manifests as an evil red dragon.¡¨ Chapter 12 of the Book of Revelation describes how the ¡§red dragon¡¨ was slain and fell onto the ground. It knows that it does not have many days left and is making its last desperate struggle. My understanding is that the heaven and earth are in different dimensions and thus have different time. But no matter where it is, it is down to its last breath and making the last desperate struggle.



Chapter 13 of the Book of Revelation contains descriptions of a despicable beast that will ¡§rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.¡¨ (Rev. 13:1) ¡§The dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.¡¨ (Rev. 13.2) ¡§And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.¡¨


Whole article here:
www.pureawakening.net...



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:28 AM
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Why do you think it would occur in China? The dragon myths goes around the world. A red dragon does not mean it will come from China.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:36 AM
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you want the weapons used on the "day of the lord" and some of the plagues. 5000 men in china just wont cut biblical proportions. as far as the dragon in rev 13 being chineese gov, well rev 12 clearly identifies it as satan(accuser). the beast is the system. satan gives his authority to the beast aka satan creates NWO and rules it.... (the false prophet either being the head of religious system or IMO symbolizing the fake religion by satan)


Job 38 Job 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,Job 38:23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, [every stone] about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.


Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men.
Nah 3:17 Thy crowned [are] as the locusts, and thy captains as the great grasshoppers, which camp in the hedges in the cold day, [but] when the sun ariseth they flee away, and their place is not known where they [are]. (chapter IDS locusts as men of assyria)
*note, 7th vial = armageddon. so the following is not.
Nah 3:19 [There is] no healing of thy bruise; thy wound is grievous: all that hear the bruit of thee shall clap the hands over thee: for upon whom hath not thy wickedness passed continually?
*beasts healed wound is a broken country brought back to life... USA (5th seal. nah 3 connections with the 5th seal) (are shepherds are asleep, if theives came in the night, would they not steal a few grapes?)

the 6th trumpet in rev alludes to the locusts being released, the number being 200,000,000 men. (as the chineese army has as foot soldiers i believe. they will engage in war killing 1/3 mankind. this will be your chineese dragon)
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

they march against isreal thru iran. as far as i can tell. then come the last trumpet and the 7vials. no way 5000 men = armageddon since it occurs at the 7th vial, the plague of hail stored for the last day job 38. we know that because on the 6th vial satan is gathering up troops for the battle

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:40 AM
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I really like this quote.

“And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.” (Rev.16:1-2)


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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by Justanotherperson
Why do you think it would occur in China? The dragon myths goes around the world. A red dragon does not mean it will come from China.


Some people with supernatral abilities can see that CCP is a evil red dragon in another dimention.

and certain ancient Chinese prediction told about red gragon does bad things in the area of Beijing ----killing students at Tian an men Square.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:13 AM
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The dragon is satan not the communist party. I feel sorry for the Falun Gong, but I doubt Revelation has anything to do with it. All these events center on Israel not China.


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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Justanotherperson
Why do you think it would occur in China? The dragon myths goes around the world. A red dragon does not mean it will come from China.


The Red Dragon is the Chinese Communist Party

“A great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.” (Rev. 12:3) In order to interpret the Book of Revelation correctly, a key is to recognize what the “red dragon” is because “the dragon gave him [the beast who fought against God] his power, and his seat, and great authority.” (Rev 13:2). Once people understand who the “red dragon” is, it will be easy for them to find the beast whose “number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Rev. 13:18)

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Rev 12:9). People today generally view the “red dragon” as simply a symbol of the Devil or Satan. In reality, the “red dragon” in the Book of Revelation not only represents the Devil or Satan, it actually refers to something specific. “In the lowest dimension of the heavens, China’s Communist party manifests as an evil red dragon.” (“Deciphering the Last Three Stanzas of the Plum Blossom Poem”) The favorite color of the Chinese Communist Party in the human world is also red.

Once we realize that this “red dragon” refers to the Chinese Communist Party, it is not difficult to recognize that the prophecies in the Book of Revelation center around China and not the Middle East. “And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.” (Rev.9:16) There is no other country in the world except China where “every citizen is also a soldier” that has the ability to organize an army of two billion people. In Chapter 16 Verse 12 of the Book of Revelation, it also mentions “the east,” which should also refer to China.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:25 AM
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You're not even quoting Revelation correctly. The dragon isn't the thing with the seven heads and ten horns, it's the beast, the antichrist:



1And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.

And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. 4Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”

From: Revelation 13


The dragon and the beast are obviously separate.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:27 AM
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I am looking forward to the end, just like everyone else here
BUT I just don't think that it will happen for hundred of thousands of years.

We are overdue for another world war though.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:31 AM
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I should add this as a warning to anyone who wishes to change the meaning of Revelation to suit their own agenda:



   18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Revelation 22:18-19



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:33 AM
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SHOWTIME!!!

Ono... Dose... Trese... Quatorce!

yeah... That's right it's U2 time "HOW TO DISMANTLE AN ATOMIC BOMB"

#1 Vertigo "...give me what I want and no one gets hurt.... Your Love is teaching me how to kneel!!

#2 Miracle Drug "...FREEDOM has the scent like the top of a newborn baby's head.

Anyone know how the meeting between Bill Gates, BONO, and Toney Blair went?? I HEAR they talked about AFRICA??

#3 Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own.. simply spectacular!!! " ..a house doesn't make a home, PLEASE don't leave me alone.."

#4 LOVE AND PEACE OR ELSE!! "lay down" "..lay your love on the track..were're going TO BREAK the MONSTERS back.."
"..daughter's of ZION ... All you ABRAHAM's SON's.."
"...we can talk this through.." "..the troops on the ground are about to Dig in...
"Where is the Love??"

#5 CITY OF BLINDING LIGHTS "..In the sky's they advertise for people like us!!" "...I'm getting ready to leave the ground.." "...some PRAY for, others steal.."

#6 ALL BECAUSE OF YOU "...I was BORN a child of grace, nothing else about the place..." "....I like the sound of my own voice, I didn't give anyone a choice.." "...SOME HAVE HIGHRISES on their BACKs.." "...I'm a live..."

#7 A MAN AND A WOMAN "little sister don't you worry about a thing...." "...TRUE LOVE can never be RENT.." "..I've been sleeping in the STREET again.." "What the Soul wants, the Soul waits..."

#8 CRUMBS FROM YOUR TABLE "From the brightest STAR comes the BLACKEST HOLE!!!
"You speak of signs and wonders..."

#9 ONE STEP CLOSER "...I'm around the corner from .." "... One step closer to KNOWING..." "..I'm hanging out to dry.." "ONE STEP CLOSER TO KNOWING.."

#10 ORIGINAL OF THE SPECIES "Baby slow down the END is not as far as the STARS..." "..Please STAY a CHILD.." "..I'll give you everything you want, except the THING YOU WANT..." "...SOMETHINGS you should not get SOO GOOD AT!!" "EVERYWHERE you go you shout about it.."

#11 YAHWEH
"Take these SHOES click clacking down some DEAD END street"
"Take these SHOES and make them fit"
"Take this shirt, polyester white trash, made in nowhere."
"TaKe this shirt and make it clean"
"Take this soul, stranded in some skin and bones"
"Take this SOUL and make it SING...SING"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Always pain before THE CHILD IS BORN"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Still I'm waiting for the door"
"Take these hands and TEACH THEM what to carry"
"Take these hands, don't make a fist..NO"
"Take this mouth, so quick to critisize"
"Take this mouth, give it a KISS"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Always pain before THE child is Born"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH'
"Still I'm waiting for the DOOR"
"Still I'm waiting for the Door"
"The SUN is coming up"
"The Sun is coming up on the ocean"
"HIS love is like a DROP IN the Ocean"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Always pain before THE child is Born"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Tell ME NOW, why the DARK BEFORE the DAWN"

"YAHWEH...YAHWEH"
"Take this city the city she'll be SHINING on a hill"
"Take this CITY, if it be YOUR WILL"
"What NO man can OWN, no MAN can TAKE!"
"Take this heart...Take this heart...Take this heart and make it BREAK!

How much air time do you think that will get?



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
I should add this as a warning to anyone who wishes to change the meaning of Revelation to suit their own agenda:



   18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Revelation 22:18-19


Not to mention copyright laws and plagiarism. It's funny how god cares so much about his writings.


Oct

posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
You're not even quoting Revelation correctly. The dragon isn't the thing with the seven heads and ten horns, it's the beast, the antichrist:



1And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.

And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. 4Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”

From: Revelation 13


The dragon and the beast are obviously separate.



I think the dragon is the beast.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:58 AM
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Shabaz or SHOWBIZ or maybe "PRIMETIME", really old school ELECTRICITY??? "snap, crakle, and 'POP' (Great U2)"

hey "Leonardo Da Vinci" or was it Leonardo De Caprio you quoted??

Murcielago easy on the language, really LOAD YOUR HEAD??

What is a "Scab-bots"???



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:47 AM
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Any correlation...

Mayan Calendar ends Dec 21, 2012

Chinese Calendar - Year of the Dragon (4710) begins Jan 23, 2012

Difference = 333 Days ???



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 10:21 AM
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I had always thought that the red dragon was china, but there are a lot of other options out there.....cant think of it right now, but Im sure its out there. Anyway, yes the end is coming....someday. With everything that is happening out there it is easy to believe it will be soon. I try to have faith that God will put his foot down before WW111, but who knows. I have been looking into some things that could totaly be a crock, but they seem kind of real to be a crock. Like the Bible code, It sounds true, but who knows. That maitreya could be another weirdo claiming to be Jesus, but when I found out that his spokesman (his prophet) was all buddy buddy with the UN I kind of started looking into it a bit more. Either way it doesnt matter if your looking at china, bible codes, maitreya, or what ever suits you as long as your looking into it. It would realy suck to be caught "sleeping" .

[edit on 28-1-2005 by mrsdudara]



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