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Erdogan Says He Has "Confirmed Evidence" The US Supports ISIS

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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Here we go. It shall be interesting what comes of this the next couple of days. Will the administration blame Putin or even deny these allegations?

www.reuters.com...




Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he has evidence that U.S.-led coalition forces give support to terrorist groups including the Islamic State and Kurdish militant groups YPG and PYD, he said on Tuesday.

"They were accusing us of supporting Daesh (Islamic State)," he told a press conference in Ankara.

"Now they give support to terrorist groups including Daesh, YPG, PYD. It's very clear. We have confirmed evidence, with pictures, photos and videos," he said.


www.zerohedge.com...



One year after this website demonstrated that Turkey was cooperating with the Islamic State, in the very least trading cash in exchange for crude oil sold to various Turkish outposts (a trade which was subsequently ended by the Russian air force), Turkey has flipped the tables and on Tuesday Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he has uncovered evidence that US-led coalition forces have helped support terrorists in Syria - including Isis.

Which, incidentally, should also not come a surprise in light of the May 2015 declassified Pentagon report, which claimed that ISIS was created as a Pentagon tool to overthrow Syria's president Assad.

Nevertheless, the "pot calling the kettle black" comes at a sensitive time for both the US and Turkey, which are both pivoting aggressively, one internally from Obama to Trump, while the other is shifting its foreign geopolitical allegiance from the US to Russia, which may also explain today's outburst by Erdogan.





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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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This is silly. The US supports everybody. Friend and foe alike.

You support your friends, because that's your obligation as a friend, and you support your foes, because everyone needs an adversary to test and maintain their strength. So, the US does not discriminate, they sell arms to both sides in every conflict. They sold Iraq all the arms Iraq ever had, then took it all back for war practice. That's the general idea.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:05 PM
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I can't wait for the White House's new Junior Varsity story.






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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:06 PM
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Seem's like the dog is biting the hand that feeds him!

This is going to get nasty but I'm sure it's all Putins fault.

I guess some Orville Redenbachers is in order. Who has the butter?



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

This is silly. The US supports everybody. Friend and foe alike.

You support your friends, because that's your obligation as a friend, and you support your foes, because everyone needs an adversary to test and maintain their strength. So, the US does not discriminate, they sell arms to both sides in every conflict. They sold Iraq all the arms Iraq ever had, then took it all back for war practice. That's the general idea.



reminds me of the movie "Lord of War"



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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Shots fired



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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I think a lot more will come out on the Obama administration before it's over. I'm thinking that is why he's busy throwing hand granaids as he leaves office. Look at the UN vote on Israel he basically told them I'm his statement that we've supported them I'm the past so it's ok if we don't this time. Though he's taken away any ability for Trump to negotiate a two state plan for Israel. They now have nothing to negotiate with. He's continuing to write executive orders at a time most presidents set back. He's pardoned any body who asked and even stated his disdain for the justice system. He just did an interview where once again he admonishes evil amarucand for the sins of the past. Basically where all racists at heart but it's OK we can't help it. It's just part of our culture and eventually will work it out somehow he's just apparently not sure how. I've never seen a president work against the incoming administration like this. Or even fan the flames if you will of racial discontent. I've always expected a president to try to unite people but all I see more division. And people think Trump is going to come in and fix this that's laughable. Trump is not the person to fix racial tensions because he just can't keep his mouth shut. He always says things that make people go WTF?? His hatred if law enforcement has been shown over the past couple of months. And sadly the only people that can solve many of the problems inner cities face Is the police. Oddly less police will make the inner cities more dangerous not safer.


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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:38 PM
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Syria is a lie. The White Helmets and western establishment media are helping to hide the truth. The sooner everyone understands this the better.


‘We were living in security and peace. These areas are being targeted, they want to force us to leave. Every Syrian is being targeted,’ one Syrian religious leader told a delegation of reporters who visited Aleppo earlier this month.

The video and links will tell you everything that you need to know.


Sources: 1/2


“As for…the agenda of some corporate media: it is the agenda of regime change,” she said. “How can the New York Times…[or] Democracy Now…maintain until this day that this is a civil war in Syria? How can they maintain until this day that the protests were unarmed and non-violent until say 2012? That is absolutely not true. How can they maintain that the Syrian government is attacking civilians in Aleppo, when every person that’s coming out of these areas occupied by terrorists is saying the opposite?”

This video explains some things as well...


These organizations are relying on the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights [SOHR], which is based in Coventry, UK, which is one man. They’re relying on compromised groups like the White Helmets. Let’s talk about the White Helmets: They were founded in 2013 by a British ex-military officer, they have been funded to the tune of $100 million by the US, UK, Europe and other states.

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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If you still require evidence of this you probably should not use the internet.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
Syria is a lie. The White Helmets and western establishment media are helping to hide the truth. The sooner everyone understands this the better.


‘We were living in security and peace. These areas are being targeted, they want to force us to leave. Every Syrian is being targeted,’ one Syrian religious leader told a delegation of reporters who visited Aleppo earlier this month.

The video and links will tell you everything that you need to know.


Sources: 1/2


Jeez Eis you're not supposed to be posting the facts! You're ruining the plot line. Ok everybody forget Syria look over there--->, there's Iran they are the real bad guys, oh nope it's North Korea over here



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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The following article illustrates what happens when American foreign policy is controlled by multinational considerations. If Obama and Hillary needed someone to overthrow Assad why not just create an opposition group and call them moderate rebels and turn them lose. Erdogan may have the smoking gun but he better watch his back because a lot of very powerful people don't want these things exposed.....

www.armstrongeconomics.com...



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:00 PM
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Does Erdogan think people are fools? Just last year it was Turkey that was allowing ISIS oil and trade across its borders. There are even many different articles showing that ISIS was also selling its captured hostages as slaves in the Turkish underground markets. Is he also going to implicate himself and his administration with this?
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: infolurker

Does Erdogan think people are fools? Just last year it was Turkey that was allowing ISIS oil and trade across its borders. There are even many different articles showing that ISIS was also selling its captured hostages as slaves in the Turkish underground markets. Is he also going to implicate himself and his administration with this?




If anyone anyone is in a position to have nice little pics and intel of this kind of thing Erdogan is....


He may of may not implicate himself, perhaps the cat is out of the bag for him so he will take down anyone he can with him, seems plausible considering the amount of adult children we have posing as leaders...



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:14 PM
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I dunno. The latest I've seen claims that he's going to be working closer with Russia and Iran to solve the situation in Syria. But it seems pretty hypocritical for him to pretend that his govt is anti-ISIS when they've been allowing trade with ISIS this entire time. Remember the convoys of ISIS tankers heading to the Turkish borders last year?

They even used their "anti-ISIS" rhetoric as a cover to invade Iraq and attack the Kurds in Syria. (Technically, a much smaller amount of Turkish troops was allowed into Iraq by the Iraqi govt. But Turkey then greatly expanded that number against the wishes of the Iraqi govt.) So I really don't trust Erdogan on this issue.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 11:21 PM
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I trust Erdogan as much as i trust any politician which is about as far as i can throw them....

Seems to me both enemies and allies trade all the time, the U.S like many other countries are trading with their enemies. Money is the supreme ruler, everything after seems secondary...



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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Of course he does. They use the same middlemen. Like when Russia showed how Turkey was smuggling ISIS oil. My point being, outside of the actual Syrian gov, everyone has dirty laundry in that conflict. And Turkey's shirt is one of the dirtiest.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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So if he has the evidence, why does he not show it to the world?

Maybe because it is bull#.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 03:29 AM
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originally posted by: infolurker
Here we go. It shall be interesting what comes of this the next couple of days. Will the administration blame Putin or even deny these allegations?

www.reuters.com...




Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he has evidence that U.S.-led coalition forces give support to terrorist groups including the Islamic State and Kurdish militant groups YPG and PYD, he said on Tuesday.

"They were accusing us of supporting Daesh (Islamic State)," he told a press conference in Ankara.

"Now they give support to terrorist groups including Daesh, YPG, PYD. It's very clear. We have confirmed evidence, with pictures, photos and videos," he said.


www.zerohedge.com...



One year after this website demonstrated that Turkey was cooperating with the Islamic State, in the very least trading cash in exchange for crude oil sold to various Turkish outposts (a trade which was subsequently ended by the Russian air force), Turkey has flipped the tables and on Tuesday Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he has uncovered evidence that US-led coalition forces have helped support terrorists in Syria - including Isis.

Which, incidentally, should also not come a surprise in light of the May 2015 declassified Pentagon report, which claimed that ISIS was created as a Pentagon tool to overthrow Syria's president Assad.

Nevertheless, the "pot calling the kettle black" comes at a sensitive time for both the US and Turkey, which are both pivoting aggressively, one internally from Obama to Trump, while the other is shifting its foreign geopolitical allegiance from the US to Russia, which may also explain today's outburst by Erdogan.






..they changed roles.
Before, this cough "israel" was playing the bad cop ;
now the Clique turned that roleplay to "turkey".
Same bloodline [!]

..it totally fits in the new paradigm :
vatican turned to 'good'
merika with trump turned to 'good' [read : to direct under Their 'putin' lead]
and 'isreal' turned to 'good'

yet all the same old Sh**t.
massive theatre of changing goalposts.
And this shaping of the west requires new cough 'enemies' -- like their programmed ' turkey'.



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 03:33 AM
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..i feel so ashamed telling those obvious things

1 huge Muppet theatre They created

using 'bad guys' and ' good guys'

erdogan
is Their willing slave playing the badguy...
edit on 28-12-2016 by loNeNLI because: text



posted on Dec, 28 2016 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

This is silly. The US supports everybody. Friend and foe alike.

You support your friends, because that's your obligation as a friend, and you support your foes, because everyone needs an adversary to test and maintain their strength. So, the US does not discriminate, they sell arms to both sides in every conflict. They sold Iraq all the arms Iraq ever had, then took it all back for war practice. That's the general idea.


True.


But you left out how they pitted Iraq and Iran into war brutal bloodbath of border war, and armed both sides. Today its fund both Al Qaeda & ISIS.



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