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originally posted by: rickymouse
Yeah, the Obama Administration just passed a law that said that other countries are not allowed to meddle in our political business yet within the same week they meddled in Israels political business to try to alter their government.
Sounds normal, sounds like something Hillary would do too. I am kind of glad Obama is leaving soon, the last couple of weeks he has pushed a lot of crap that is bias.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
So this is an interesting development from the UN Security Council resolution....
Israel has evidence that U.S. President Obama's administration is behind Friday's Security Council resolution, Israel's Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer told CNN on Monday.
"We will present this evidence to the new administration through the appropriate channels. If they want to share it with the American people they are welcome to do it," Dermer told CNN.
According to Dermer, not only did the U.S. not stand by Israel's side during the vote, it "was behind this ganging up on Israel at the UN." Dermer said it was "a sad day and a shameful chapter in U.S.-Israeli relations."
Dermer reiterated the message in subsequent interviews with MSNBC and FOX, saying Israel has evidence that the Obama administration was behind the wording of the Security Council resolution and plugged to advance it.
The White House Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes, denied these claims in an interview with Channel 2. Rhodes said the resolution was worded and pushed by Egypt and the United States decided to abstain because the wording reflected its position on settlements.
Rhodes said the White House is disappointed at the strong and personal reactions by the Prime Minister's Office against President Obama, especially in light of the unprecedented military aid his administration has given Israel during his eight years in office.
Rhodes said further that Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to deliver a speech in which he will lay out the administration's vision for a resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
But the White House will not advance any additional diplomatic steps on the issue before the end of its term of office on January 20, Rhodes said.
In his first public reaction to the vote, Netanyahu said Saturday that the Obama administration has carried out an underhanded and an anti-Israel maneuver at the UN Security Council.
So I bolded a part that is of particular interest to me. They are going to present evidence of the US meddling in the resolution to the new Trump administration through the proper channels and allow them to disseminate the information accordingly. I wonder why they are not just making it public? Is there some reason that they would not do that?
Anywho....if the DO have this evidence and it DOES point to Obama's administration, how is that going to fare for his outgoing legacy?
originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: yuppa
Rothchild's bought Palestine from the Ottoman empire in 1867 I believe,and renamed it Isreal in 1948,their land not the zionist's,ask any middle eastern person,they all say Isreal gets away with everything,don't have to disclose how many nukes they have,whats up with that
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: yuppa
I want Frankia back off the French.
I want all of Ireland back off the British.
Heck, I demand the kingdom of Northumbria to be recognised and all of her lands returned to her.
I have blood ties to all these lands, it doesn't work like that. Israel didn't exist 1000 years ago or 100 years ago, it's a piss poor excuse.
When people talk nonsense like that it makes me wish they all just buggered off to Ethiopia. They have brethren their too.
Israel and JUdea did exist. you can look it up. Its a poor excuse to say they did not when its written about. Even the ROmans said it existed. Yes all lands gained by war(except one sliek the US) should give it al back. California should be returned to mexico i agree. Texas won its war so leave that one alone.
You really haven't thought the whole give all the lands back taken by war thing though have you? If you do that then there will be no Israel. Israel came from conquered lands no nation on this planet has existed throughout time. The nations of Egypt and India would probably be better off than all the other nation.
In a new campaign against an attempt to legalize the most blatant settler land theft, dozens of left-wing Zionist heavyweights instead blame the ‘radical left’ for the absence of peace.
The full-page ads read:
This law contradicts natural justice, it contradicts international law and morals. MK Benny Begin is the one who termed it the ‘theft law.’
This extremist and somnambulant nationalist leadership, whose [coalition] partners are religious extremists and nationalist extremists, is going to soon force us to choose between life under a regime led by an Arab-majority, which exists between the river and the sea, and a regime resembling apartheid based on the hatred of others and the oppression of [political] opponents.
The fanatic right and the anti-Zionists radicals from the extreme left have joined forces to convince us that “the occupation is irreversible.” Both aim to make us despondent about the vision of a democratic state of Israel. But the occupation is reversible, and we will fight unflinchingly to end it with a peace accord! (Emphasis added.)
Perhaps the authors of the ad believe that by trashing and blaming the far left they can win a few political points with “moderate center” voters, the type that support Yair Lapid. In reality, doing so only plays into and strengthens the right wing’s delegitimization and stigmatization campaign against any type of Palestinian activism, certainly BDS activists, against Breaking the Silence, against B’Tselem, and eventually the entire “Left,” a term Benjamin Netanyahu has successfully made pejorative in the Hebrew language.
One final note: for years, we’ve heard members of the “peace camp,” the Zionist Left, warn that any year now Israelis will be forced to choose between living under an Arab-controlled regime and living under an apartheid regime. When exactly is that moment, when we choose? There’s no real prospect an “Arab regime” in Israel anytime soon, and every single day for the past 50 years Israelis have chosen the other option, wherein their democratic country operates separate legal systems for Jews and Arabs in the West Bank. When exactly will the “peace camp” decide that reality is apartheid, against which they must fight unflinchingly.
Resist Israel’s settlement creep
Identify areas in which EU practices clash with domestic legislation
Monitor Israeli compliance with EU differentiation requirements
Adopt informed compliance measures by national regulatory authorities
Clarify the risks of doing business with settlement entities
Develop a consistent EU position on how to tackle situations of occupation and annexation
Ensure that EU delegations can monitor human rights compliance of European businesses involved in settlement activities
Build a European consensus
Invest more time in understanding differentiation
Provide a coherent, convincing, and fact-based rebuttal to Israeli accusations
Consistently articulate the legal necessity that drives EU differentiation
Develop a European communications strategy
Strengthen EU engagement with the Israeli public
Counter Israeli allegations of anti-Semitism
Spell out the negative consequences that Israel will face if it continues to occupy Palestinian territory
Reject the possibility of à la carte relations
Learn the correct story from the US