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From Messiah to King in the eyes of the RNC

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: network dude

If you use your 5th grade English lessons' skills and parse that sentence, you really can't come up with any other meaning except that this year we have a new King.


John Weaver
‏@JWGOP
Dear RNC: We don't have a "new King." What the hell is wrong with you people?
#TwoPaths #Vigilance






John Aravosis
✔ ‎@aravosis

@reince & @rnc should apologize for using Christmas to compare @realDonaldTrump to Jesus & calling him a "new king"https://gop.com/rnc-message-celebrating-christmas-2016/ …



www.foxnews.com...

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko


How ironic you call his supporters knee jerk responders considering that is exactly what you did in the OP.

"Oh god, he said new king! Obvi it's a double entendre!"

You couldn't be more knee jerk.


Wow. I must say. You have to be the most dense person I've ever come across in my life. I just keep explaining it to you and you still aren't getting it. While continuing to call me ignorant and thinking you're on top of things too. It's truly amazing.

So let's try it again. I'm not knee jerking at anything. I know full well what I'm posting here. It's not really even about the statement so much as it was me sort of trolling the Trumpies and getting them to overreact so I could point out to them what SJW snowflakes they're being. I did it on purpose. Do you get it now. Read that again if you need to.

Now, that doesn't mean I don't stand by my position on this topic. I do stand by it. I'm not lying. But the purpose behind all this isn't what you think it is. I don't know how else to explain it to you.

You've become obsessed with your desire to change my mind and make me think what you think. That won't happen. Period.

But you've also got baited in to the same chaos and attack mode as the Trumpies have in attacking me too. You seem unable to get out of this trap now though. Even the Trumpies have left at this point and yet you're still here. Attacking me, trying to do whatever it is you think you're doing and it's a complete waste of your time. You need to step back and see this for what it is, ok.

I'm trying to help you out here....



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I have not once attempted to make you change your mind. I have disagreed with you and that's it. I have responded to your OP in only 3 posts, a total of maybe 5 sentences between all of them. I don't think you understand the definition of obsessed. I have pointed out that you seem unhealthily obsessed with Trump. All you do is reinforce in their ("Trumpites") minds that everyone against them is an idiot, because that is how you are acting. For one you seem to not even know what Knee Jerk means. Just because you are confident in your opinion does not mean it isn't a knee jerk reaction. Readily predictable pretty much sums it up perfectly.

I also think it is painfully obvious to everyone here that the only "dense" person is you. I fully understand you support your own opinion and you are entitled to it, that does not make it correct. In fact, you are wrong and you base your entire opinion and argument on several logical fallacies. You can continue to be wrong, that's totally fine. It's not you I care about, it other readers.

You view the Trump crowd as easy gratification because it makes you feel smart. You get affirmation from other far left people and that makes you feel even better. In the end you are still a very sad person apparently only starting discussions on the internet to argue with people who disagree with you, specifically Trump supporters. You are obviously in a rage spiral picking fights with people to bolster your own insecurities. You do far more damage than good by sticking with a premise such as the one in the OP. We want Trump out of office in 2020. People like you will lock him into that second term.

As far as getting baited into attack mode, nobody baited me. I read the entire thread before I posted for the first time, I knew your intentions from your childish posts. I still felt the need to deny ignorance since that is after all the motto of the site because I DO see this for what it is: A childish antic which only boosts his supporters.

a reply to: mOjOm

These are the post of someone with some serious issues. I am not even joking or being sarcastic when I say I am genuinely concerned for you. You've been on this site a long time and I have never seen such vitriol from you.

Sometimes Pizza is just Pizza, and sometimes Christmas is just Christmas. People who look through their "Clinton Hate Glasses" see all pizza as pedophilia now, and all the people who wear their "Trump Hate Glasses" see double entendres where none exist.
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 03:28 PM
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Dupe
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

True...The RNC post would have been received entirely differently if Trump had lost etc...

It does take some squinting and bias to read it the way it was spun...

BUT....Kinda related....Trump definitely has some old-world Aristocratic delusions going on...He does see himself as royalty and fantasizes about his family name etc.

Barron...Long a favorite name of his even before his youngest was born..he named a few LLCs "Barron" going back years etc. And it was infamously the alias he chose when he faked being his own publicist "John Barron".

Scion...
a descendant of a wealthy, aristocratic, or influential family..
Also...the New name of his new line of Hotels



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

I agree and why I dislike him in a position of power. He totally lacks humiltiy and is a demagogue. I fully believe he would put his own ego ahead our country, but I'm going to give him 4 years to prove me wrong.

I voted for Obama and have been thoroughly disappointed. I voted literally "none of the above" as a write in this time and let the chips fall where they may even though I knew Trump would win.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Indigo5

I agree and why I dislike him in a position of power. He totally lacks humiltiy and is a demagogue. I fully believe he would put his own ego ahead our country, but I'm going to give him 4 years to prove me wrong.



It's complex...He is the greatest Narcissist ever to be elected President....An Optimist might ask themselves..Well, if he wants to make a name for himself in the history books as his ego will demand...he might try real hard to make great things happen, if not for the average joe, then for his own legacy?
And the skeptic might say...Unemployment is already pretty damn low, GDP growth is doing OK and getting better...Obama didn't leave him a large margin to show improvement...so maybe his picks of X-Generals for his cabinet and skipping intelligence briefing similar to Pres. GWB did before 9-11 is indicative of someone looking for a DISTRACTION..in the form of military conflict or attack on US soil...that usually buys a sitting POTUS a second term regardless of economy....and would afford him a green-light on his more tyrant-like impulses...law and order...crack-down on public dissent etc.

We will see in the next 48 months if he is going for real change or if he is going for distraction.
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Blessed Be Lord Trump and His Vision , for He Understands the Plight of the People who have Lived Under Oppression for the Last 8 Years Under the Ungodly One and His Minions . A New Day is Dawning , one of Peace and Prosperity for All Men . Praise He who has been Blessed by the Creator of All .
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

I have no party. I'm an Independent. Have been for over 27 years now, since I was 18. I've voted all over the political spectrum. This just happens to be one of the times I voted Republican.

Had the Democrats not abandoned the middle class, they'd have kept more of us this election cycle.

It's nice to not have to tow the party line, and be able to actually vote your conscience and not vote because of what label someone chooses to throw upon themselves.

Trump was not my choice, he was who I was forced to vote for because Hillary was the absolute worst choice possible.

I'd have voted for a trained Chimp over her.

Blame the DNC, not me. I was backed into a corner.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

You don't know if I'm wrong man. Nobody knows for sure other than the guy who wrote that message. He's the only one who actually knows for sure whether or not it had a double meaning.

You act like I'm the only person on the planet who noticed it. I'm not. People on both sides of the isle noticed it too. I'm not saying I know for a fact that I'm correct about it. I'm saying that is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. If you don't agree, then don't agree. But coming in here and telling me for sure that I'm wrong is a f*cking lie. You don't know that. Your opinion is the same as mine. A guess at what was meant by something someone else wrote down. That's it.

I don't view the Trump crowd as easy gratification. By while were on the topic just what arrogance it is for you to assume you know my thoughts about anything. You arrogant ass. You come in here and demand that I must be wrong in my own opinion. Then you insist you knew what my intentions were here this entire time. You expect me to agree with with your opinion instead of my own. You call me ignorant of my own thread and my own thoughts. As if you know them better than me. You don't know sh*t man. I've tried explaining that to you again and again. Hell you keep thinking I'm a damn Democrat and that I'm on some kind of Team with you or others in how I vote. Face it, you are WRONG.

As far as me instigating something with the Trumpies, who gives a f*ck. You aren't my damn mother and I don't care what you think about it. What balls you have to come here and start throwing your judgements at me. When people on the right talk about the Self Righteous, arrogant, academic, know it all pr*cks that they can't stand, it's people like you who they're talking about and I'd have to agree with them at the moment.

Don't tell me about who I am or what I should and shouldn't do. What the hell has got you thinking you're in a position to do that or that I would listen to you??? You must think very highly of yourself to assume you hold some kind position of respect or authority over me or anyone else. How in the world did you get deluded into thinking you're so special BTW???

You know what, I might have issues. But you wouldn't know it because even after I've told you directly what I think and what this thread is about you still get it wrong.

I think we're done here pal. All you're doing at this point is making me waste time having to respond to you. I don't know why you continue to insist upon this. But finally I actually am getting pissed off. Not at Trump, or the Trumpies or anything else because I was never mad at them to start with. It was just entertainment for me. But you, yes you, with your persistent arrogant BS directed toward me and thinking you know me and making judgements off of those false assumptions and all the rest of it. Yes, you're finally irritating me. It's like talking to a damn brick wall.

So how about if we just politely go our separate ways now. I will never agree with what you're saying anyway. Because I know myself better than you know me. Just accept that. It's kinda stupid to assume that you more about me than I do. So why don't we stop this???? Do you really think you're going to accomplish anything at all at this point????



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: mOjOm

Blessed Be Lord Trump and His Vision , for He Understands the Plight of the People who have Lived Under Oppression for the Last 8 Years Under the Ungodly One and His Minions . A New Day is Dawning , one of Peace and Prosperity for All Men . Praise He who has been Blessed by the Creator of All .


Amen brother!!! Praise The Lord for Mr. Trump!!!

May he Make America Great Again for all us little folk.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Kneel to MAGA!!



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: poncho1982

All the middle class ever needed was living wages and plentiful jobs. I don't think it is just democrats that are responsible. And the way trump is abandoning all his promises, those rural jobs are getting dimmer too. Must be why we are planning another war. Republicans only jobs plan again.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

I wouldn't go that far, but after this I'm thinking I understand why the Right dislikes the left like they do.

It's just never ending with some of them and their refusal to allow anyone else to have an opinion about anything that they disagree with.

Last I checked we were allowed to have opinions of things that are different and there is nothing wrong about that.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Indigo5

I wouldn't go that far, but after this I'm thinking I understand why the Right dislikes the left like they do.

It's just never ending with some of them and their refusal to allow anyone else to have an opinion about anything that they disagree with.

Last I checked we were allowed to have opinions of things that are different and there is nothing wrong about that.


LOL...I don't see anyone not allowing opinions here...after all, this is your thread.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm talking about raymundoko insisting his opinion is right and mine is wrong when neither of us can say one way or another who might actually be right about our opinion of what was meant by someone else in what they say.

Both our opinions on the matter carry equal weight and neither of us can say whether they are right or wrong.

What difference does it make if it's my thread or not anyway??? What's that even supposed to mean???
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm talking about raymundoko insisting his opinion is right and mine is wrong when neither of us can say one way or another who might actually be right about our opinion of what was meant by someone else in what they say.

Both our opinions on the matter carry equal weight and neither of us can say whether they are right or wrong.

What difference does it make if it's my thread or not anyway??? What's that even supposed to mean???


The difference is that you started a discussion about a point you wanted to make. You didn't add it in to another thread, YOU specifically started a discussion.

Everyone's opinion matters. There are a lot of posters on ATS that don't seem to get this. You actually seem reasonable, but threads like this draw unreasonable responses from both sides.

Starting a thread with the title you did is obviously going to draw responses. And sure, most understand that a catchy headline will get more views and responses.

The headlines on ATS have become more and more like the MSM it is humorous. It's all about flags and stars and responses and knee jerk reactive posts. It's almost like Twitter, but with a delay and not as much instant feedback.

So to dig into another topic as an off-shoot of this one...what good is social media if you have the ability to block someone you don't agree with? Just because someone else has a strong opinion that is opposite of yours, does that mean the opinion doesn't matter? Are people so thin skinned that they can't even read what someone else's opinion may be?
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

And had Hillary gotten elected, then the offshoring of our jobs would have continued unabated. We'd be facing war with Russia as well. Those were guaranteed end results.

I'll take my chances on Trump. Nobody knows how he's going to do.

I'll take a "Maybe we're screwed" over a "We're definitely screwed" any day.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Ok. I don't disagree with anything you just said.

I didn't say only my opinion is correct so I'm not sure why you're directing this toward me. I never stopped anyone from giving their opinion on this or that they were wrong. Just that mine very well may be right.

Are you suggesting that I want to block the opinion of others or something????

I honestly don't get what you're trying to say or why it's directed toward me.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Your entire post was invalidated by your first paragraph. The people who wrote it already said there was no double meaning. You used them denying it as proof that there was. That's a logical fallacy.

My issue isn't with why you started the thread or whether or not you are entitled to your opinion. My issue is with your ignorance and use of logical fallacies to support an idiotic and desperate idea that only bolsters the far right.
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