Obama Signs Act - Fake News Is Now Illegal Just Deem It Foreign Propaganda

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

This appears to be a specific strategy for dealing with a specific type of false propaganda coming from foreign countries.

Again, where does it say in the act that news deemed fake will now be "illegal" and that it will be "illegal" to look at it, read it, or believe it?

Again the bill is a law. When you break a law it is illegal

a reply to: gmoneystunt

Exact quote, their typos and emphasis:

NOTE: The bipartisan Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act is organized around two main priorities to help achieve the goal of combatting the constantly evolving threat of foreign disinformation from our enemies:

The first priority is developing a whole-of-government strategy for countering THE foreign propaganda and disinformation being wages against us and our allies by our enemies. The bill would increase the authority, resources, and mandate of the Global Engagement Center to include state actors like Russia and China as well as non-state actors. The Center will be led by the State Department, but with the active senior level participation of the Department of Defense, USAID, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the Intelligence Community, and other relevant agencies. The Center will develop, integrate, and synchronize whole-of-government initiatives to expose and counter foreign disinformation operations by our enemies and proactively advance fact-based narratives that support U.S. allies and interests.

Second, the legislation seeks to leverage expertise from outside government to create more adaptive and responsive U.S. strategy options. The legislation establishes a fund to help train local journalists and provide grants and contracts to NGOs, civil society organizations, think tanks, private sector companies, media organizations, and other experts outside the U.S. government with experience in identifying and analyzing the latest trends in foreign government disinformation techniques. This fund will complement and support the Center’s role by integrating capabilities and expertise available outside the U.S. government into the strategy-making process. It will also empower a decentralized network of private sector experts and integrate their expertise into the strategy-making process.

www.portman.senate.gov...

The legislation establishes a fund to help train local journalists and provide grants and contracts to NGOs, civil society organizations, think tanks, private sector companies, media organizations, and other experts outside the U.S. government with experience in identifying and analyzing the latest trends in foreign government disinformation techniques.

www.portman.senate.gov...

Sounds an awful lot like this "Global Engagement Center" is to be a re-education camp for journalists.

Reeducation Camp
The term 'reeducation camp' is also used to refer to prison camps operated by the People's Republic of China during the Cultural Revolution, or to the laogai and laojiao camps currently operated by the Chinese government. The theory underlying such camps is the Maoist theory of reforming counter-revolutionaries into socialist citizens by re-education through labor.
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Officially, the Vietnamese government does not consider the reeducation camps to be prisons, but rather places where individuals could be rehabilitated into society through education and socially constructive labor.
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During the early phase of reeducation, lasting from a few weeks to a few months, inmates were subjected to intensive political indoctrination. Subjects' studies included the exploitation by American imperialism of workers in other countries, the glory of labor, the inevitable victory of Vietnam, led by the Communist Party, over the U.S., and the generosity of the new government toward the "rebels" (those who fought on the other side during the war). Another feature emphasized during the early stage of reeducation, but continued throughout one's imprisonment, was the confession of one's alleged misdeeds in the past.
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The authorities sought to maintain strict control over the thoughts of the prisoners, and forbade prisoners from keeping and reading books or magazines of the former government, reminiscing in conversation about "imperialism and the puppet south," singing old patriotic and love songs from the former government, discussing political questions (outside authorized discussions), harboring "reactionary" thoughts or possessing "superstitious" beliefs.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Seems like they have this planned out pretty well. Its like a information monopoly. I still do not understand who determines that the narratives from our government are based on facts.

Do they use Snopes or Factcheck

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Sounds an awful lot like this "Global Engagement Center" is to be a re-education camp for journalists.

Hmm. Interesting resemblance of the two.

These quotes stand out the most for me

The legislation establishes a fund to help train local journalists

The authorities sought to maintain strict control over the thoughts of the prisoners

Officially, the Vietnamese government does not consider the reeducation camps to be prisons, but rather places where individuals could be rehabilitated into society through education and socially constructive labor.

I guess technically you do not have to be in prison to be a prisoner, especially if they have strict control over your thoughts. Reminds me of when they were sending people that offended snowflakes to sensitivity training.

Does Trump have much control to reverse this law considering it is a yearly Act? Almost sounds like a branch of the government will be working separately from the President or they don't plan on Trump sticking around.

a reply to: gmoneystunt


Here is an interesting take on the situation,www.youtube.com... what is worrying is that another source a U tube account which he puts up for a fact check, has been suspended.

originally posted by: reldra


Also, I find it hard to believe CNN can be bought for 20 years for 20 million. LOL

a reply to: anonentity

I did hear that before. It wouldn't surprise me if he tried something like that. I hope he doesn't. You may find this thread interesting.

Are Democrats Already Planning to Screw Up 2020 Presidential Race?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Sounds an awful lot like this "Global Engagement Center" is to be a re-education camp for journalists.

Enough with the fear mongering CRAP.

Do you think a "re-education camp" would give out grants?

Because that's what it says right there in the bit you quoted.

Stop. Lying.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Seriously, if you paied money to the school system in the US, you are 1000% entitled to get your money back.
The sheer level of stupidity they teach you is as worthless, as the fact of flies flirting.

Congratz you can name "the founding liars .. erm i mean fathers" in a timeline.

The fact you know all the names of all the states... worthless!

The fact you know all scores in the last 20 years of baseball ... worthless!

The 1000% was a joke if you missed that.

I feel sorry for you americans. I love you as a people, but damn the gov. of yours are fycking around with you, making you look stupid.

Time to grow up ? - i bet in 4 months there are riots and possible internal wars. Its sad, just because the masses are uneducated, and you have to suffer that.. wish you the best.

a reply to: gmoneystunt


The problem we have is all the various agendas that have piled up with a lot of proof to back them up. At the moment, we have an anonymous vid which looks like its got into some of Assange's insurance files...www.youtube.com... Whatever the truth is, their so much perceived dirt on Hillary, one would think that she is out of the equation, but the dirt obviously is being suppressed. Putin in his Christmas address, has alluded to the things that are getting supressed. In the immediate environment of an assassination , of an ambassador the death of another high ranking official in Russia, the Death of many in a military plane , heading for Syria , and breaking news , the leader of Libya who was considered a CIA asset asking Russia for the same sort of help in stabilising his country with a Syrian type solution.

We know with a fair degree of accuracy that what they are supressing is probably the truth and are trying to hide it from the majority of the voters as they have to control the reality spin. As an observer wading through it all , at the moment the present administration cant afford to leave office. They will have to be forced from office.

a reply to: kloejen

I'm not American.

Perhaps this is why I can see things without fear or bias like yourself and others.

originally posted by: DJW001

Seriously? You can't tell where a source originates?

You can tell the people who love them some foreign propaganda by the way they pretend like the most elementary questions are impossibly complex riddles beyond the resolving power of the human mind.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: kloejen

I'm not American.

Perhaps this is why I can see things without fear or bias like yourself and others.

Me neither. The post was in general.

Maybe we lack the American spirit and cant see beyond our own failure? ... like a passenger on the Titanic?

Sad thing is that we have to go down with the stupid "believing people" ... this is really our doom... the other 80% stupid people, cuz they "thought" so ?

Dont that piss you off?

It's beyond any individual to make sense of the vast knowledge available. It's futile to try to make individuals understand everything. There's just one answer, ultimately. So here it's, the answer to everything:
This makes the pill easier to swallow if you still have emotions:I am totally serious. There's a bright side. SOME individuality is present. We each have enough autonomy to still operate with a modicum of independence. Exchange of information and energies is limited, so some capacity to operate outside the collective is needed.

Why is this important? Because accuracy of information is. The internal world inside our brain must reflect on the one outside. If it fails to reflect then we cannot make survival decisions productively.

a reply to: gmoneystunt

Are you really this dense, or are you pretending?

The point of this act is to address the recent surge in false news originating from foreign sources, designed to be propaganda against the U.S. Government. According to the Act, this propaganda will be confronted head on by organizing a strategy for analysis of this fake propaganda news, gathering the facts and publicly releasing those facts.

An act or law doesn't always mean there is a legal/illegal aspect. It can simply be a declaration of some action on the part of the government, like this particular act is.

Legislation can have many purposes: to regulate, to authorize, to outlaw, to provide (funds), to sanction, to grant, to declare or to restrict.

en.wikipedia.org...

It is a LIE to say the act now makes it illegal to disseminate or view or believe fake propaganda news from foreign sources. This act is a declaration that the government will organize a strategy to analyze propaganda, gather the facts surrounding that propaganda and release those facts to the public. The act is also authorizing a budget for completing this strategy.

originally posted by: gmoneystunt


Does Trump have much control to reverse this law considering it is a yearly Act? Almost sounds like a branch of the government will be working separately from the President or they don't plan on Trump sticking around.

This act could help Trump. It looks like China will not be liking Trump very much. What if they start disseminating fake news propaganda against him and his administration to make him look bad to the American people? With the funds and organization from this act, Trump's government can better counter the fake news against him.

youtu.be...

I can't post this video correctly from my phone, can a member please give a homie a hand here.

I believe this is highly relevant to this thread/issue. This brave, very smart patriotic woman, highlights the extent the federal government will go to shut its own citizens up. This is a single case. They will ruin you financially through use of the IRS, FBI/ATF investigations, OSHA and any and all other agencies at their disposal.

They use social media accounts against you and pick apart ones life in order to find "evidence" of agenda that speaks out against the governments corruption. They bring the entire force of the federal government upon you and effectively cripple your ability to function. One becomes absolutely powerless and it's impossible to bounce back from it.

In the case of the woman in the video she mustered enough will to fight back and expose just how brutal they can be when protecting their interests. It's relevant because with this bill passing it gives them the means to shut down anyone permanently where in the past tactics, as in this case, may have failed. No opposition is safe, not even an average citizen.

a reply to: kaylaluv

What part do you guys not get about the stuff they've legitimized here they've already been doing with impunity forever now?

Everything they've spelt out therein is business as usual.

Read my post in this thread with all the links. Completely indisputably documented, and that's hardly even scratching the surface.

Which begs to question WHAT IS THE POINT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THESE NEW ACTIONS? Are the whole lot of you in here (whom are the usual liberals btw) going to dodge this question forever, or what?????

They're setting precedents with this stuff and what comes next, with Trump about to take the White House you should be going out of your minds about this if you guys actually believed any of the slanderous stuff you all kept harping all election about him being an anti-free speech Hitler'esque authoritarian fascist.

What the hell planet is everyone living on here? How far must you warp your own reality at each and every turn to support the insanity that Obama, Hillary, the CIA, the DOD, the DNC, the GOP, etc keeps ramming down everyone's throats? It's all propaganda everything that ever comes out of their mouths and across their corporate airwaves. IT'S A DELUSION TO THINK ANYTHING DIFFERENT. And they don't care about any of you. And that includes the MSM they're LIARS. Just because they play lip service to the stuff they've convinced you that you think you support etc doesn't mean they even care about any of it. It isn't a Democracy (READ HILLARY'S EMAILS IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME THEY LAUGH AT YOU), it's the Corporatocracy, and they own the government, they own the military, they own the banks, they own the airwaves and this is them in total panic mode because we the masses don't believe them anymore, they've been exposed in the WikiLeaks, and their multinational corporatist GLOBALIST vision for global hegemony is finally on thin ice. They don't care about this multicultural stuff, just look at what they're doing to the Middle East. And the truth is coming out now, we know they staged the Arab Spring. We know they started the war in Syria et al. We know they're push the open borders in the US & EU to Balkanize the populations so that we're too busy at war with ourselves to rise up as one.

Why is this supposed "Russian propaganda" so "DANGEROUS" to them? Because the truth about Syria is: OBAMA AND FRIENDS HAVE BEEN USING AL QAEDA TO DESTROY THE MIDDLE EAST. Sure did miss you in those threads I've been posting this week that prove it. No shocker there.

Look, if your goal is the destruction of the Middle East, and the free world, and maybe even a nuclear apocalypse for the entire planet, keep it up like this. This isn't a game, and millions of lives have already been destroyed in just the past few years in Syria alone by these people: the people I constantly see the lot of you defend (but wouldn't be if it were Republicans leading the charge the past 8 years).

a reply to: becomingaware