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Trump calls for F-18 run off against F-35

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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This will be a fun conversation watch.




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I agree, LETS mount Hyperkinetic EM drives on a modified SR71 platform,powered by a fission reactor using an AI,that uses BEAM weapons instead of guns or bombs,BRILLIANT!



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I couldn't IMAGINE the political NIGHTMARE introducing that would cause in procurement...



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: makemap

They did, they redesigned it to be used by all three services, be stealthy and to incorporate new technology. It's called the F35.



posted on Jan, 6 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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www.businessinsider.com.au...

Those who've flown it say that the whole idea of the f8 being upgraded to do the F35 role is a bit of a joke.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 04:43 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

...and why do that when the F35 is right there already to go. Or nearly so.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: seagull

That's what most people don't realize. The F-35 has reached IOC with two versions. Killing it now would be a disaster for the legacy fleet.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

It's not like there's an ongoing issue with the current fleet of airframes is it. Thank god the current inventory isn't overstressed by continual combat use, suffer from low availability rates or are taking longer and longer to keep flying.



posted on Jan, 7 2017 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: Donkey09

And it's not like they're years behind on depot work on both airframes and engines.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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War is boring, a site that has always been critical of the F-35, once again criticizes.

warisboring.com...

The main criticism is that the airplane takes twice the time to deploy, its gun still doesn't work, and has some maintenance issues. As well as it apparently has not met its IOC obligations.

Any response to this from our main F-35 fan? It does conclude that the re-rigged "advanced super hornet" has a snowballs chance in hell with the air force, but may be a reasonable procurement for the USN and some foreign air forces over the F-35.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Fools

Why is it that if you believe in something and don't sit and rip on it the only reason is that you're a fan?

War is Boring is not exactly the best source for anything F-35. As far as the gun, big deal. The gun is only used for close air support anyway.

Maintenance issues? Show me an aircraft that doesn't.

Show me any new aircraft that doesn't take longer to deploy. Yet, Israel took delivery of their first two aircraft, and in less than 24 hours flew their first missions with them.

It met the IOC obligations put forward by the services. That's all that matters. They met the requirements well enough for the Secretary of the Navy and Air Force to declare IOC.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Not to mention the kids flying 'em.

That is where I will always come in on a conversation about new weapons systems, no matter the type. It's what, more than anything, sold me on the necessity of the F35, not to mention the F22.

Which platform, the F18 or the F35, stands the best chance of bringing their crews home in a threat environment between equal forces? It ain't the F18, folks...



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: seagull

The reports from the crews are crazy. You can say it didn't meet IOC requirements all you want, but when you're having to turn on transponders to train, and hanging weapons to make things harder, and hitting every objective in less than 10 minutes anyway, that says a hell of a lot more than some guy who sits behind a desk all day.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Some of 'em are saying training scenarios are almost a joke, because the plane almost refuses to take it seriously...



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: seagull

It does. When they flew against simulated radar emitters in Florida, that were just transmitters on a sick that transmitted on the same wavelength as a real radar set, the F-35s removed the threat display, because it knew they weren't real radars.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

yep.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

hell of a plane



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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The part of that article where they argue that the Super Hornet is better than the F-35 because it can fly with a targeting pod should tell you all you need to know about that stellar piece of writing.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: justwanttofly

Pretty much clinches it, doesn't it?



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: justwanttofly

The one today is even better. They said Trump needs to call into question the IOC decision, and he needs to cancel the program.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

...and replace with a dated platform that in the next decade, probably less, is going to be virtually helpless to protect itself...the F18(whatever version).



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