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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: theantediluvian
I do believe Trump critics, and Russia critics are deflecting still.
Simply because they can't own up to their loss.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
As of a half an hour ago, with the EC voting completed in 43 states, President-elect Donald J Trump had 259 electoral votes to 156 for Hillary Clinton. As predicted by myself and other non-hysterical posters, there was no great number of faithless electors. The much hyped fake "coup" scaremongering proved to be just more clickbait for the easily clickbaited.
All the Internet tough guy self-styled revolutionaries blathering ominously about their guns ended up getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.
Now with the EC paranoia behind us, will the hysterical denialism over Russian interference during our presidential election also become a thing of a past? Will we be able to have reasoned discussions about the evidence of the Russian goverment attempting to effect the election? How about their continued attempts to influence US politics? The implications of this sort of meddling and manipulation and what the appropriate response should be?
Or is still too soon and too likely to trigger some folks?
What will it take? Acceptance by President-elect Trump? Does the cult need to be given the okay to believe objective reality again? Will President-elect Trump stop lying long enough to let his faitful followers off the hook?
Ironically enough this is what VP-elect Pence was saying back on October 16th:
On Sunday, Pence for the second time in recent weeks broke from Trump on Russia, this time on that country's possible involvement in email hacks tied to the U.S. election, saying Moscow should face "severe consequences" if it has compromised U.S. email security.
"I think there's no question that the evidence continues to point in that direction," Pence said. "There should be severe consequences to Russia or any sovereign nation that is compromising the privacy or the security of the United States of America," Pence said on "Fox News Sunday."
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
As of right now it's just as likely it was disgruntled DNC underlings.
Also, regarding "appropriate response": Clinton wanted to use military force in retaliation for hacking. Meaning she'd have gone to war as president had her unsecured server been hacked after the election. The left is tired of war, so why do they seem so quick to start one with Russia?
As predicted by myself and other non-hysterical posters, there was no great number of faithless electors. The much hyped fake "coup" scaremongering
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: ketsuko
Well, thanks to you I looked up Eich. I found no indication that he in any way was the target of a government run pogrom such as Mccarthyism. Do you wish to display your grand intelligence and knowledge base for us dummies who cannot see the connection that you seem to? Or did you just toss out that name because you like the way it sounds.
I'm sorry. The Hollywood blacklist that prevented celebrities from working was not government via any mandate or law. It was simply understood that these suspect individuals would not work.
originally posted by: Konduit
It wasn't Russia that tried to influence the election.
It was SNL, Colbert, John Oliver, George Soros, Saudi Arabia, CNN, NYT, WaPo, Twitter algorithms, Illegals voting etc. - LET'S HAVE A REAL INVESTIGATION.
Sure, lets talk about the hacking. First off, what was the information that was released?
second, was any of it untrue?
Third, how did the release of that information change the outcome of the election?
fourth, I thought it was Comey's fault? Who will get blamed next week?
originally posted by: ksiezyc
A liberal wants an investigation. Others agree.
A conservatives wants an investigation. Liberals falsely call it "butthurt".
The hypocrisy is entertaining though. It'd be boring if our victory didn't cause a triggering effect.