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Truck ploughs into Christmas market in Berlin, injuring several people – reports

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Pandaram

I doubt it was anyone but those savages. I gave reasons why I don't think it's the original driver earlier.




posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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Wow scary and unfortunate for those people.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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people in Berlin are sad and shocked but apparently very calm.
"maximal unbeeindruckt" (-very unimpressed) as Spiegel online states.

the calmness might be awkward for some but if you know the place,it´s people and the history it´s no surprise.
they deny victory to the terrorists by not panicking,not being scared and not giving into fear-mongering and hate.

some here say they are "in denial" but to me it seems people in Berlin are just capable of dealing with tough situations. their city went through a lot in the past.



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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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Berlin police release suspect in deadly Christmas market truck attack


LATEST UPDATES:
— Islamic State claims responsibility for the attack (More info here)
— Man arrested after attack released due to insufficient evidence
— Police said officials cannot rule out suspects may still be at large

Police are saying the suspects are still at large. This isn't over yet.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: DerBeobachter
East european number plate, could really be "just" a drunken driver...


As I understand things the number plate on the truck was different at both ends. Wonder why that would be?



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: usaman1983


I've been reading a little about false flags and with the so called ISIS seemingly claiming this one, it sure looks that way to me however, among other signs of a false flag is the matter of identity.

In 1996 in Tasmania Australia, 35 people were gunned down in a cafa by one of the best anti terro shooters in the world, whoever they were. The passport of the 29 year old, but intellectually a 13 year old child patsy, Martin Bryant, was found in the glove box of an old Volvo identical to his own, which was parked at the location where the shootings occurred even though he had not visited that location in the previous year or so. Who found the passport has never been revealed.

On January 7, 2015, two masked assassins entered the Charlie Hebdo office in Paris and murdered 12 people. The two blokes escaped but crashed their car. The police found an ID card in the Citroen. This discovery enabled the Police to track the entire Charlie Hebdo tragedy to the two Kouachi brothers.

The day after the 9/11 attacks, a suspicious Toyota was identified at Dulles International Airport. It was registered to Al-Hazmi of Lemon Grove, California. When searched, a travel itinerary for KHALID AL-MIHDHAR and MAJED MOQED on AA Flight 77 was found among other items. Including a piece of paper with “Osama 5895316” written on it.

In Shanksville Pennsylvania, a half-burnt visa paper belonging to alleged hijacker Ziad Jarra was found in a field amongst the megre debris of Flight 93.

Thanks to Dee McLachlan of Gumshoe News


You simply state that finding ID is proof of a false flag.
You never stopped to realize that moving around without ID is more suspicious and risky then without ID on you?


knowingly making false assumptions which cannot be sustained by the facts (may I suggest you re-read what I wrote) is more related to making mischief than seeking the truth, not to mention being rather amateurish. Enjoy your day.

cheers



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 03:24 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
East european number plate, could really be "just" a drunken driver...


As I understand things the number plate on the truck was different at both ends. Wonder why that would be?


Its a normal practice to put tractors plate over trailers plate in hgv trade . And it propably fell down.



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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 03:28 AM
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So... what the attacker look like? isnt it it bit wierd nobody knows?



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: Pandaram
So... what the attacker look like? isnt it it bit wierd nobody knows?


The first suspect they arrested was from Pakistan but he has been released.
Now they are looking for a Tunisian man...

According to a temporary-stay permit found in the cab of the lorry that ploughed into crowds, the man, named as Anis A, was born in 1992 in the city of Tataouine. He applied for asylum in April and was given a temporary residence permit, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung said.

www.bbc.co.uk...

Obviously must have be terrifying to witness what happened but I'm a bit surprised no one pounced on him as soon as the lorry came to a stop.
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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OK until yesterday i thought, just another Terrorist attack.

But today this turns into Top-notch ATS material with possible conspiracy.

Short summary:

- first suspect: Guy from Afghanistan (some still report unsure if Afghani or Pakistani), arrived in Germany in Feb 2016. Already multiple run ins with police (not terror related). Had multiple names and passports. Freed again, no traces or evidence found to link him to the Truck

- papers (Asylum ID paper) have been found in the truck (conveniently) they appear to belong to suspect 2. A guy from Tunesia. Also in germany since several months, suspected to have ties to an islamist network. Several names, several passports, including an italian one. Therefore was about to be deported, but never was. Officials cant say why he is still here or if he was deported and returned illegally (!?)

- No public search for him, but photos released (!?) Police say they 'are positive' to 'make result' 'in the very near future'

So far so strange.

Now the Tagesschau (state sponsored news outlet) has an article, which asks:

V-Mann involviert? A V-Mann is either an informant paid by police or an undercover cop/investigator.

According to multiple sources the suspect asked a V-Mann where to get weapons !?

A Police Investigator said he cant explain how they lost track of the suspect (before the Berlin incident).
www.tagesschau.de...

This gets weirder by the hour. Either incredibly bad police work or conspiracy?



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: NibiruEnki
Told you guys it'd turn out to be a Muslim. It's always satanic Muslims.


It wasn't just a Muslim.

"...the suspect was known to German security services as someone in contact with radical Islamist groups, and had been assessed as posing a risk."

www.cnn.com...

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AND YET, THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWED HIM TO.....STAY.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: Pandaram
So... what the attacker look like? isnt it it bit wierd nobody knows?


They arrested a man that fit the desciption given by someone who followed him after he jumped out of the truck.
The attacker looked like the man they arrested.
So they do have a good idea what he looked like and quite possibly the man that they let go was indeed the perp.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: NibiruEnki
Told you guys it'd turn out to be a Muslim. It's always satanic Muslims.


It wasn't just a Muslim.

"...the suspect was known to German security services as someone in contact with radical Islamist groups, and had been assessed as posing a risk."

www.cnn.com...

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AND YET, THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWED HIM TO.....STAY.


Ever consider that the original suspect was let go BECAUSE he was a Muslim? And who is willing to bet they will find and "convict" a non-Muslim innocent man for this heinous crime in order to save all of their political skins. If the person charged and convicted was not a refugee, then they can use that to maintain their narrative.


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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
Ever consider that the original suspect was let go BECAUSE he was a Muslim?



Probably was. It's more important to let the guilty go free because of their religion than offend anyone and create animosity which might lead to more attacks.

Problem is that they will have attacks until they kick these people out, no matter how nice the government is or how politically correct the government tries to be. Failing to kick these people out is a lack of respect for public safety, and this is why I voted for Trump. Because Trump stands for public safety before politically correct niceness which leads to the deaths of native Europeans unlike the pushovers who will allow their people to be murdered and still sleep at night.
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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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posted on Dec, 23 2016 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: NibiruEnki
Told you guys it'd turn out to be a Muslim. It's always satanic Muslims.


It wasn't just a Muslim.

"...the suspect was known to German security services as someone in contact with radical Islamist groups, and had been assessed as posing a risk."

www.cnn.com...

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AND YET, THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWED HIM TO.....STAY.


It's utter madness. I hope Merkel feels the wrath of the people at the ballot box.



posted on Dec, 23 2016 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth
And this one too, is well on its way to the old news bin.

We of such brave hearts. We who are so quickly and voraciously enraged. We mighty keyboard warriors. How powerful and dangerous we would be, if we had the convictions of our spirit, and the memories of an elephant?



posted on Dec, 23 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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Was this guy (just while he was in Italy) really found guilty of burning down a migrant center and was forced to be moved from multiple prisons because of behavior? If so why was he allowed to be in Germany?



posted on Dec, 24 2016 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
Was this guy (just while he was in Italy) really found guilty of burning down a migrant center and was forced to be moved from multiple prisons because of behavior? If so why was he allowed to be in Germany?
Because he is a muslim and they must be tolerant to his kind.



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