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Truck ploughs into Christmas market in Berlin, injuring several people – reports

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 01:52 PM
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From what I read, some guy followed the attacker for a short while, but lost him after a few minutes. He then gave a description to the police, who then arrested someone who fit the description, but apparently wasn't the right person, since there doesn't seem to be any evidence to pin the attack on him.




posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: NibiruEnki
Muslims are savages.

Funny that most Muslims in the middle east think the same of us in the west...And they have good BLOODY reason.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
news.sky.com...



investigators have not been able to prove he was in the truck's cab at the time of the atrocity. German publication Welt earlier quoted officers as saying of the detained asylum seeker: "We have the wrong man.




Police had not found the blood of a dead Polish truck passenger on the suspect, it added.




The gun used to shoot the victim, who was the original driver and whose body was discovered in the cab, has not been recovered.


It all depends of course on WHEN the Polish truck driver was shot - he might have been shot up to 3 hours earlier, he might have been shot by someone else who was working with the arrested suspect, so the suspect might not have had DNA, or gunshot resdidue on him anyway.

He might have shot the guy and changed clothes earlier in the day if working alone, he might have been wearing gloves when he used the gun, AND when he drove the truck so there may be no fingerprints either.

So there may not be any gun, or gunshot residue because the gun might not have ever been anywhere near the Christmas market.

I hope they at least took a lesson from an old Columbo movie and checked if he fit in the drivers seat after it had been adjusted to be in the right place for the new drivers legs, LoL.

If the suspect was 4ft9 and the seat adjusted for someone 6ft4 then...

Well you know.

Surprised they can't get some kind of footwear tread marks off the pedals or the mats, surely they must also have checked for textile fibres of the seat on his clothes, and vice versa.

Wouldn't be surprised if they don't WANT it to be him because he's a newcomer to Germany.

Time will tell hopefully.

In any case the jihadis must be laughing their socks off at us.

There's a video you can find online where a woman is accused of tearing or trying to burn a Koran - no trial or anything, the people there - they drag her through the streets, beat her, hit her with big poles, run her over with cars, take her body (presumably) to a beach, throw giant rocks at her, then set her on fire.

We have a guy who might have just killed 12 people and wounded 49 more and we let him go in less than 24 hours because "it might be against his human rights" to keep him locked up for just a little bit longer.

They take immediate and severe action, we all stand around with our thumbs up our jacksies lighting candles and singing kumbyar and worry more about the rights of the poor suspect than the terrible deed he's suspected of carrying out.

We Will Lose if the mental left wing luvvies aren't swept aside.
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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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Per Fox News' Sheperd Smith...

Suspect released due to lack of evidence, also said (which sounds strange), the DNA didn't match evidence on the scene..

Less than 24 hours, and the authorities have DNA profiles from the scene, and from the suspect? Can they process it so fast these days? Or another error from whoever wrote the teleprompter feed?

Smith also said that ISIS has claimed credit for the attack...



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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Also mentioned in the same S. Smith report..

The dead passenger, was Polish, and the brother of the truck owner.. He was stabbed and shot, his brother claims he fought for his life.

Thoughts are that he was truck jacked by the killer, who is still on the loose.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Per Fox News' Sheperd Smith...

Suspect released due to lack of evidence, also said (which sounds strange), the DNA didn't match evidence on the scene..

Less than 24 hours, and the authorities have DNA profiles from the scene, and from the suspect? Can they process it so fast these days? Or another error from whoever wrote the teleprompter feed?

Smith also said that ISIS has claimed credit for the attack...



It depends what sort of method of DNA analysis they use of course, but I do remember doing a gel electrophoresis back in highschool a few decades ago. I doubt we used a full human DNA for it, but it was done in a couple of hours, as in prepare and start in the morning, be done by noon.
I am not a forensic expert or anything like that though, so I'm sure more knowledgeable people can expand on this.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Power_Semi

In any case the jihadis must be laughing their socks off at us.

There's a video you can find online where a woman is accused of tearing or trying to burn a Koran - no trial or anything, the people there - they drag her through the streets, beat her, hit her with big poles, run her over with cars, take her body (presumably) to a beach, throw giant rocks at her, then set her on fire.

We have a guy who might have just killed 12 people and wounded 49 more and we let him go in less than 24 hours because "it might be against his human rights" to keep him locked up for just a little bit longer.

They take immediate and severe action, we all stand around with our thumbs up our jacksies lighting candles and singing kumbyar and worry more about the rights of the poor suspect than the terrible deed he's suspected of carrying out.

We Will Lose if the mental left wing luvvies aren't swept aside.


I sure wouldn't want to live in a #### country were people are brutally killed on a suspicion. Also I would be very careful with advocating to take away someone elses (human) rights. In the end you are basically asking to take away your own rights as well by doing so.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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The quick arrest and release of a first suspect reminds me of the musical chairs game of suspects in the initial aftermath of the Dallas shooting recently.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal
The quick arrest and release of a first suspect reminds me of the musical chairs game of suspects in the initial aftermath of the Dallas shooting recently.


Maybe they had good reason to release the guy...CCTV footage of him being nowhere near the area when the truck went into the market stalls.. ?



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: loam

I know that.

You know that.

Some of our fellow members seem incapable of seeing the parallels between this attack and others, however.


there are parallels. there are similarities. there are also protocols, and police and investigators. you cant bring out the pitch forks on a whim or on just similarities, our society would be no better than theirs if we acted on what we think we know and not what we know.... you used to be a leo right... i can see similarities with how other Leo's think there...
those who make decisions in society have to live by a higher standard and take pragmatic approaches instead of emotional approaches.
should the others ME people living there be living in fear or pins and needles because people might think they are terrorists, there were ME most likely muslims casualties as well.


- the other similarity i see is that these terrorists are from the same regions. you know places bombed and dismantled time and time again by the west. you know these are family members of innocents who lost their kids to bombing and toppling of governments, relatives of dismembered brothers or sisters. there are billions of Muslims. why is it rare that those attacks are carried out by Muslims from Indonesia or Singapore or southern China. so, how do you think all those hundreds of thousands who saw their lives destroyed in Syria [as we speak] will see the west, or the young kids who survived Iraq, Libya, etc... how do we all think they will grow up....

the slush fund continues....


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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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I don't know weather this was already written: the police says that the Pakistani arrested is possible not the culprit. (This seems to be a real investigation?). And I wonder weather drugs could have played a role, either by people taking them or by someone giving them.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

And we don't? Fine then it's mutual, but don't act like we have no reason.
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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

For what feels like the 19th time in this thread: pointing out that this attack bears an extreme resemblance to other terrorist attacks is not getting out pitchforks and jumping to conclusions. Again, if I see a tree that looks like another tree, then I will say that tree looks like the other tree.

Why you have such a hard on for trying to claim I'm getting out pitchforks and whatever else you're claiming I'm doing is beyond me. "This sure looks like a terrorist attack" is not an assumption, no matter how you try to spin it in to one.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

Same with the initial Dallas suspect. My point is that MSM focused on that situation as they/we are on this one while they put down the groundwork for a possibly predetermined narrative.
There were multiple suspects in Dallas, noted by authorities, before the narrative was whittled down to the one they wanted and previous suspects chalked up to a 'fog of war' confusion on the ground.
My point is maybe be wary of what they're floating around to the MSM and how that starts to change while one point is focused on.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: usaman1983


I've been reading a little about false flags and with the so called ISIS seemingly claiming this one, it sure looks that way to me however, among other signs of a false flag is the matter of identity.

In 1996 in Tasmania Australia, 35 people were gunned down in a cafa by one of the best anti terro shooters in the world, whoever they were. The passport of the 29 year old, but intellectually a 13 year old child patsy, Martin Bryant, was found in the glove box of an old Volvo identical to his own, which was parked at the location where the shootings occurred even though he had not visited that location in the previous year or so. Who found the passport has never been revealed.

On January 7, 2015, two masked assassins entered the Charlie Hebdo office in Paris and murdered 12 people. The two blokes escaped but crashed their car. The police found an ID card in the Citroen. This discovery enabled the Police to track the entire Charlie Hebdo tragedy to the two Kouachi brothers.

The day after the 9/11 attacks, a suspicious Toyota was identified at Dulles International Airport. It was registered to Al-Hazmi of Lemon Grove, California. When searched, a travel itinerary for KHALID AL-MIHDHAR and MAJED MOQED on AA Flight 77 was found among other items. Including a piece of paper with “Osama 5895316” written on it.

In Shanksville Pennsylvania, a half-burnt visa paper belonging to alleged hijacker Ziad Jarra was found in a field amongst the megre debris of Flight 93.

Thanks to Dee McLachlan of Gumshoe News


You simply state that finding ID is proof of a false flag.
You never stopped to realize that moving around without ID is more suspicious and risky then without ID on you?



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:23 PM
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Sound like a drunk and drive to me.. hijack, stubbing, shootings are just on fake news sites. Not official.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6
'Defeating Jihad' author Dr. Sebastian Gorka agrees with you, and he suggests that it is going to become worse.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: Pandaram

That's doubtful. The cousin says the original driver does not drink the day before the job, he seemed too in shock to lie about it.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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BREAKING: Man responsible for Berlin massacre identified as German politician.





posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: Pandaram

That's doubtful. The cousin says the original driver does not drink the day before the job, he seemed too in shock to lie about it.


Driver run away... have you ever heard islamic terrorist runs away?

This is a terror attack but unlikely a islamic one.



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