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Leak reveals Tillerson is director of Bahamas based US-Russian Oil Company

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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You called it, OP.

Globalists are now "smart businessman," as long as it fits into their partisan flavor.

I have to admit, it's funny how terrified some are of "career politicians."

They don't offer any specifics, just "career politicians."

These are the people who finance those career politicians to pass their legislation. Removing the middleman from the equation will do absolutely nothing.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: Blueracer
Is anything illegal about this? Or even morally wrong?


According to "the law," Clinton is innocent.

Since when did we start using State legality and illegality as a judgement call?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: MALBOSIA

You have reality issues. Russia invaded Ukraine.




Hmm yes, very controversial protest and riots that led to an illegal and controversial regime change, where one of the major powers in that new government was George Soros.

Is Russia's help in Donbass and annexation of crimea both of which are majority ethnic russians, morally right, debatable on if we are arguing for the group of people(ethnic russians) or for the new controversial government of Ukraine. It's murky.

In objective terms, Russia made the correct chess move taking crimea for the warm water port they were leasing before any funded opposition could form.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Blueracer
Is anything illegal about this? Or even morally wrong?


According to "the law," Clinton is innocent.

Since when did we start using State legality and illegality as a judgement call?


Umm - what law is that?

Under the law regarding the handling and dissemination of classified information, she is flat out guilty - by her own admission as well as the findings of the FBI.

Just because the Dept. of Justice decided not to prosecute, has no bearing on whether or not she broke the law.

Intent or lack thereof is neither mentioned nor should be considered according to the statute.

She is guilty. Period.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

How many people here ever complained about current Potus giving tax dollars to socialist Brazil Petrobas while shutting down us oil drilling offshore while making a bucket load of money from dumping shares of BP Oil just before the rig disaster? Oh probably just me...but here we go screaming that Trump who wants to stop all this idiotic environmentalist cr$& is going for gold .....



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
You called it, OP.

Globalists are now "smart businessman," as long as it fits into their partisan flavor.

I have to admit, it's funny how terrified some are of "career politicians."

They don't offer any specifics, just "career politicians."

These are the people who finance those career politicians to pass their legislation. Removing the middleman from the equation will do absolutely nothing.
Libs are just ticked that Trump is going around their environmentalist bull cr$&



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

We can, and should, do better than him.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

Apparently there are no other smart successful people in the U.S. ..only cronies need apply.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Exxon is all over the world. This is nothing new.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

The truth about Crimea is more Russia took control there than invaded - yeah some people didnt like that, but the vast majority did and many in Ukraine would probably join them.

If you want to talk invasion, imagine a country who bombed a soverign country out of the blue, hunted down it's leader and hung him, or sponsored rebels to hunt another leader down and murder him with a knife or.....you get the picture, we have no right to throw stones.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: muse7

So it would not be a good thing to get along with Russia? You would prefer war with Russia?



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 03:57 AM
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My god, this is actually getting amusing now. When this broke in the news I thought "I wonder how the right will handle this on ATS" - thinking perhaps you might concede for once that this isn't great. But nope, once again, the apologists are out in full force - can Trump do ANYTHING which makes you say "actually, that's not ideal, though ultimately I support Trump."

I've said it several times already - questioning your leader does not make you weak, or a 'snowflake' - it makes you a sensible, rational, logical human being. Blind faith in absolutely everything Trump does is dangerous. I'd say exactly the same if we had a dem potus. Every thread lately just reminds me of those videos of huge North Korean crowds crying and clapping to the Dear Leader while their kids starve.

Broaden your horizons. Your guy got in - you can be happy about it - but you absolutely should scrutinise his actions and not keep making excuses.

As for saying 'all this environmental cr@p' - go and spend a couple of hours reading on the UNFCCC website. The ignorance is terrifying. Humanity a couple of hundred years from now will look back on our generation with absolute disbelief at how we prioritised money over the future of the planet.

And no, I'm not a liberal before anyone starts with Hillary/Obama deflections. I have some liberal opinions, and some conservative opinions. I struggle to see how anyone can be hard left or hard right on every subject, personally.
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edit on 19-12-2016 by fencesitter85 because: more words



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Just because he is retiring doesn't mean he will sell his stocks or that he doesn't still have an interest in the company. This guy is known to have strong Russian ties with his corporations. The conflict of interest is real, just like it is with Trump, and I guess you just have to decide if it's okay for government officials to use their position of power for personal gain. A lot of conservatives got on Clinton's case for pay-to-play.

Russia doesn't like the U.S. and is probably seeking a soft stance in order to make it easier for them to go after their goals, which could include more territory grabbing and winning the war in Syria. A lot of Democrats and conservatives are concerned with Russia due to the fact that it doesn't have our best interests at heart, it supports the Assad regime which used chemical weapons against civilians, and I hear Russian domestic policy is a bit totalitarian.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: darkbake

Do you really believe that everyone in government does not own any stocks?
This is not a new Trump thing.

One of the most important points in Trump's platform is US energy independence.
So of course he is going to nominate someone who is an expert in the energy business.
Should he have nominated the guy who runs the neighborhood gas station?

There is nothing wrong with nominating someone who knows how to negotiate with Russia.
It is better than threats and starting a war.
It does not mean that we are going to bow down to Russia - it means that there is a better way to deal with them than dangerous conflict.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: muse7

This subsidiary is 20% owned by Russian companies, 20% owned by Indian (india) companies, 30% owned by US companies, and 30% owned by Japanese companies. That's 80% owned by non-russian companies. Just more false alarm red scare tactics.

Further, the secretary of state does not lift sanctions.

Tillerson is a boy scout and you leftists need to get over the idea that every nominee is somehow a crisis.


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posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

That's not true at all. There are still ongoing investigations into her dealings and the clinton foundation. Further, if the law was applied equally, do you really believe clinton would not be on trial?



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: muse7


Tillerson is a boy scout and you leftists need to get over the idea that every nominee is somehow a crisis.


It's a discussion mate; that's kind of the point of a forum. And if you think for one second that the 'rightists' wouldn't have been foaming at the mouth about this if it was Obama/Hillary, then you're lying to yourself.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

Sure, which is why I provided a bunch of evidence as to why the OP was wrong. But way to take the meat of the matter and run with it.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: muse7

Oh, and it wasn't found in 'leaked documents' it's clearly stated on their damned website: corporate.exxonmobil.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: muse7


Rex Tillerson, the businessman nominated by Donald Trump to be the next US secretary of state, is the long-time director of a US-Russian oil firm based in the tax haven of the Bahamas, leaked documents show.



Tillerson – the chief executive of ExxonMobil – has been a director of the oil company’s Russian subsidiary, Exxon Neftegas, since 1998. His name – RW Tillerson – appears next to other officers who are based at Houston, Texas; Moscow; and Sakhalin, in Russia’s far east.


The Guardian

This is what corruption looks like.

Tillerson and Exxon have 500 billion in deals with Russia that were halted due to Obama's sanctions as a result of Russia invading and annexing Crimea.

Tillerson will most likely lift those sanctions, because it benefits him and his Company. He has 245 million in exxon stock. Link

Trump called Hillary the most corrupt candidate in history, but we know Donald is a master at projecting.

The swamp is overflowing.


What many here used to call "Globalists' have now become "Successful Businessmen".


Do you read your own sources?


Though there is nothing untoward about this directorship, it has not been reported before and is likely to raise fresh questions over Tillerson’s relationship with Russia ahead of a potentially stormy confirmation hearing by the US senate foreign relations committee. Exxon said on Sunday that Tillerson was no longer a director after becoming the company’s CEO in 2006.


So he was no longer a director 10 years ago.

If you're going to have an issue with anyone that has a connection to anyone else then should we go with the 6 degrees of separation theory?

And no....this wasn't a leak, it was publicly available to anyone that searched it well before your source claims it was "leaked".

Maybe research a bit on RUSNANO and HRC and Obama and the direct ties they have to Russia with their US CEO directly reporting to Putins pick of CEO in Russia. Maybe figure out that while sanctions were handed out, oddly there were non for them and they were given a US base. Then check on what Russian company bought Joule and none other than the CEO of US based RUSNANO was on the board of that company...all while HRC was SoS...odd right?

These "connections" that the left keep claiming are there seem to be reaching, while the ones from HRC's days were actually leaked because they actively tried to hide them. Sad really, but I have come to accept those on the left will continue to drive themselves mad over this every chance they get.



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