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Embrace the Winds of Change

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 10:57 PM
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I believe we are seeing a fundamental power shift happening in the world right now. The "old guard" which has controlled the official narrative up until now are losing their choke hold over the world and mass numbers of people are waking up to realize how the system has played them. We now have mainstream Hollywood films portraying characters like Snowden in a positive light. In fact alternative news sources are becoming so popular that the establishment is now enacting extreme countermeasures to suppress so called "fake news".

Many of you know I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, but I'm still glad he won over Hillary because she represented a continuation of the same old status quo. The fact she lost seems to have greatly upset many powerful people and agencies, especially certain intelligence agencies which are worried Trump wont push the anti-Russia rhetoric that they have spent many decades drilling into the heads of U.S. citizens and other Western nations which often get the same news because the MSM is controlled by the same multinational corporations.

You know the establishment is getting desperate when they use Obama to make statements such as Russia being a small and weak country. I expected them to try different tactics to oust Trump, even before the elections were finished they were talking about Russian hackers rigging the elections but no one found any proof, everyone was saying Trump won fair and square. Even Obama and Hillary seemed to come out saying there was no evidence of hacking: Obama Slams Stein's Recounts: The Results "Accurately Reflect The Will Of The American People"


Jill Stein's credibility seems to be sinking fast as both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign have released statements this morning indicating they've failed to uncover a single shred of election hacking evidence.

The Obama administration confirmed their confidence in the election results via comments made to the New York Times saying that the election was "free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective" and that votes "accurately reflect the will of the American people.


So why have they now suddenly decided to reverse that conclusion and claim hacking did occur, yet they cannot provide any evidence? Because there is no evidence and Obama is simply saying what he has been told to say. They are losing control over the minds of people and you can tell they really are getting desperate now, who knows what they will try to pull in the next few weeks before Trump gets into office. But it's also obvious many MSM outlets are gearing up for a Trump presidency and reducing their anti-Russian propaganda.

For the first time I'm now starting to see reports on Syria which aren't totally anti-Assad and anti-Russian, showing how they have defeated the rebels/terrorists and regained control of most of Aleppo, even showing footage of Syrians parading through the streets in a display of joy. I suspect this is one main reason Trump is ignoring much of his intelligence briefings, he's constantly being told to treat Russia as an enemy and he tires of it and understands full well that intelligence agencies are attempting to use him to push their agendas.

The message I want to convey in this thread, is don't be afraid of these changes. Unless you're a morally corrupt being, the changes happening in the world right now should be seen as beneficial and positive. I understand many people don't like Trump and don't trust him, I am one of those people, and I've written scathing threads about his questionable character in the past. But we must accept him and I urge people to stop acting like babies over it, even if Russian propaganda helped get him elected it doesn't change the fact he won.

If anything, Trump has upset the two party political system so much that he has totally exposed just how flawed it is, and that's a good thing. It's also shown that we don't always have to vote for the person the MSM tells us we should vote for, and the person the MSM pushes wont always win even if that's what their polls say. No matter how you look at it, the world is vastly better off without Hillary as president, and I see things vastly improving as shadowy intelligence groups lose control over the way the world is run.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The thing that worries me the most is that this moment seems to be the best possible moment for a "New World Order" or "Novus Ordo Seclorum".

Pay particular attention to your address of the "old guard".

I have a fear that this is all Hollywood now.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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Thank you. Much of that expresses my own sentiment. It also seems a logical place for some very positive common ground as you've noted. If we ALL got together and Just Said No to our effed up and immoral foreign policy we really could change the world for the MUCH better.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Obama is doing what he is doing so he can start a war and stay in as President. You can tell, because he is not so confident anymore. He does not want war, because well, look at how small our military has become. He is not very confident at all. Notice the parallel to how confident Trump is acting. He doesn't go to any of the briefings, because well, he will do things his way now.

Trump does not fear war with Russia, because well, Trump does like a good, bloody, old fashioned fight. Obama doesn't seem to be one of those type of men, and thanks ok.

So to sum it up I guess, Obama is being told to diss Russia, even though he is scared s%$tl%@s. Trump has just won the presidency, so Trump is out celebrating with the people who voted for him, because he knows if he can't negotiate, he can always win.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:36 PM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

My fear is essentially the same. This whole series of events could be a very elaborate plan to make Trump look like an underdog when he's actually deep in the fold. I mean he is a billionaire and is filling many of his cabinet with powerful businessmen. They could do a good job running the U.S. with their type of experience but I still have my reservations about Trump.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:53 PM
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My advice is, never underestimate your power to connect to a situation spiritually. Who are you? Where are you coming from in terms of past lives?

I know a lot of people who remember past lives, and I remember mine. People who spent time in India, Germany, China, UK and Russia and certain other countries have a deep sense of identity within them, that reaches beyond the current life. But its rare to see that deep connection with people with past lives as American citizens. The American identity is cheap, dished out to illegals and H1-B's. It's not very meaningful, which is why we see American tech stolen and popping up in these other countries.

What's going on right now is a wise push to make being an American something more meaningful. The best and wisest move is to try to wake up to the tremendous love needed to make that work, and if you are in America, try to embrace that identity at a spiritual level.

And if you're not in America, realize these changes are happening, and try to help Americans realize who they really are. Some people are trying to cash in on an account with no money, but being an American really does mean something spiritual, beyond the ability to manipulate Americans. Please help show what that means.

Peace!



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:54 PM
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While I agree with your assessment that they are on to people pissed off at the establishment, they are actually using that to their advantage in claiming they are not establishment and to pick them to get rid of the establishment.

Obama played himself off as being anti establishment with Hope and Change and he was going to rid of the corruption within Wall Street and DC and be the most transparent administration ever. Obama's admin was filled with establishment figures. He had no less than 30 Goldman Sachs Boys as an example, who have had a continued presence in our government for the past 30 years.

Trump has done the same thing with again staffing his admin with the very same establishment figures that Obama had in his admin. We are back to square one again.

What we need to come together to agree upon is what makes up the establishment?

The establishment to me is the occupation of figureheads from the largest multinational corporations and banks that have had a continuing presence in DC for the past 30 years and have been the sole creators a lot of the legislation we see today.
Small and Medium Business are the losers since they have no representation nor does labor.

These figureheads have been here for longer than 30 years drafting regulations, bills and laws and passing it off to their puppet politicians in order to kill off their competition

I see all the time how regulations and laws are killing small business and people never point the finger at these fascists corporations
Who do you think is writing these laws, the homeless or poor people?
If you say Democrats, then I will point you to many Corporate Lobbyists embedded in Obamas Admin

People say, don't go after the corporations but the politicians
The corporations are the money bags funding it though

For Example, there are terrorists and their funders, should we ignore the deep pockets funding terrorist activities?
The Deep pocket corporations and banks are just as responsible in our current mess.

It is not being funded by the poor and middle class. They want to get rich off trade pacts with slave labor nations and then blame everyone else when it fails

People say we need the best and brightest to guide our country, but is it their meritocracy or connections and continued presence in DC where they tailor laws to benefit themselves that make them successful? Would Goldman Sachs be where they are today if they were not infested in DC for the past 30 years?

The heads of these large corporations and banks also gather in meetings in private against this countries laws to decide the direction our country should take.

These take place in Bilderberg and CFR gatherings, Think Tanks other various places shielded from the people.

They also join together to create trade pacts in secret such as the TPP and we only found out about it thanks to wikileaks

What really confuses me though out of all of this, is how anyone that supports this can call it capitalism where business should compete against each other not collude, how labor should be a part of the process, and also how our constitution forbids it as well.

What also confuses me is how real pro capitalists from small business are not tarring and feathering these fascists.
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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:13 AM
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It really baffles me that people think Trump isn't just as corrupt as Clinton and somehow will be changing the status quo. For the love of god he has not one but two Goldman Sachs bankers (high ranking executive & president) and Exxon in his cabinet!!!

What the hell do you think is gonna change here?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: TarzanBeta

My fear is essentially the same. This whole series of events could be a very elaborate plan to make Trump look like an underdog when he's actually deep in the fold. I mean he is a billionaire and is filling many of his cabinet with powerful businessmen. They could do a good job running the U.S. with their type of experience but I still have my reservations about Trump.


Prior to the 1960's, when America was in its heyday, do you know who the majority of people were that occupied DC?
It was not Globalist Corporate Heads. It was a variety of people from all careers and professions across America.
People had representation back then

If I was a farmer, I had actual farmers in DC, Carter was one for example
If I was an actor, I had Reagan in DC because he was an actor
If I was a plumber, there were people that owned a plumbing business

It is the Rockfellers and similar people that want to do away with representation for the people and have only the top elite rule over us from the Global Corporations and Banks

it has never been that way until now and it will be Hell on Earth



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

It really baffles me that people think Trump isn't just as corrupt as Clinton and somehow will be changing the status quo. For the love of god he has not one but two Goldman Sachs bankers (high ranking executive & president) and Exxon in his cabinet!!!

What the hell do you think is gonna change here?


Trump is one more step full-filled in the NWO Globalist Agenda
It is better if Billionaires rule over us rather than have someone in office that represents me and has been in my footsteps

The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.
David Rockefeller



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

It really baffles me that people think Trump isn't just as corrupt as Clinton and somehow will be changing the status quo. For the love of god he has not one but two Goldman Sachs bankers (high ranking executive & president) and Exxon in his cabinet!!!

What the hell do you think is gonna change here?


Trump is one more step full-filled in the NWO Globalist Agenda
It is better if Billionaires rule over us rather than have someone in office that represents me and has been in my footsteps

The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.
David Rockefeller


The direction we are headed is biblical where the billionaire elite will rule the earth and everyone else will be expendable until God destroys them



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: jacobe001

Really dude? So if the wife of the guy who put WTO through were president, you'd be in a better situation?

Sorry guy. I'm sympathetic to a leftist narrative when its from people who are really working hard, but Hillary failed totally to represent those people.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:32 AM
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it has never been that way until now and it will be Hell on Earth

Until now? You just said it's been like that since the 1960's, which I would agree with. And I agree that people in government shouldn't be so closely connected to large corporations. But I think the difference with Trump is that he's trying to choose businessmen who actually care about the U.S. rather than globalists who will do what ever the puppet masters tell them to do. Trump will be harder to control since his pockets are already full but I don't think his cabinet is full of the "best people". Like I said, I've never really liked Trump and I still don't, nor do I trust him to follow through on his promises, because not many politicians in history have done so.

However that isn't really the point of this thread, the point is that the people in power are losing control and it should be seen as a good thing. If Trump is required to be a conduit for that change then so be it, it's better than being stuck in an artificial reality built on lies. It will be far from Hell on Earth, politicians have always been wealthy douche bags so nothing has changed in that regard. But at least now those douche bags aren't globalist war mongers who love undermining free market capitalism in favor of socialist policies.

Love your avatar btw.
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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 01:20 AM
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I agree with you Chaotic. We're at a fork in the road and it's obvious that change needs to happen regardless. Change is one of the things that life guarantees us, we may as well embrace it and make the best of it.

Even if Trump had lost he exposed more corruption in politics and the media then any one ever has. There are a lot of people that have had their eyes opened during this election.

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 03:45 AM
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2016 has been a real eye opener.

Never before has the media and political institutions been so exposed for all to see. The people went against the status quo and the constant drum beating of the establishment media and chose the candidate both parties didn't want or expect to win. It really is a sign of change and the start of a political revolution in America.


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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The thing that worries me the most is that this moment seems to be the best possible moment for a "New World Order" or "Novus Ordo Seclorum".

Pay particular attention to your address of the "old guard".

I have a fear that this is all Hollywood now.


Infrastructure only costs 1/1000 th of what we are charged for it.

Huey P. Long
Invented the highway system.

Every dollar went to actually building roads with it.

When the other states got in on the game he could tell they were skimming almost all the money.
After deciding to run for president, to do something about it, he was shot.

It is not your fault that four/five generations of propaganda later
a person believes danger dogs those who can see the corruption and skimming.


Mike Grouchy
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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:13 AM
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What does this have to do with any new world order?


The 2017 Budget request for the Department of Transportation is $98.1 billion.

The initial cost estimate for the entire Interstate Highway System in 1955 was $25 billion over 12 years; it ended up costing $114 billion. Adjusted for inflation that is $425 billion, and it took 35 years.

What if the original estimate was correct and all the rest; slowdowns, cost overruns, et al., was just a mask for stealing and graft. If that were the case, then the 2017 budget request is the actual cost of rebuilding the entire Interstate Highway system from scratch. Minus skimming and corruption of course.


The New World Order's biggest fear is that Trump succeeds. That he succeeds and proves the last 70 years have been lies and robbery.


This is just one example.


Mike Grouchy



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:20 AM
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The New World Order's biggest fear is that Trump succeeds.

California is the porn capital of the world, bringing in between 10 - 14 Billion in revenue for the state.

If the midwestern daughters can actually find paying jobs instead, what happens to California's endless supply of new flesh?


Mike Grouchy



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:27 AM
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The New World Order's biggest fear is that Trump succeeds.

Mark Zuckerberg knows where all the missing children are.


The most recent study published by the Department of Justice, from 2002, reported that of the 797,500 children reported missing in a one-year period, 203,900 were abducted by family members and 58,200 were abducted by non-relatives. 115 were classified as being taken by a stranger.


But with face book, where is the croud-sourced support group of bereaved mothers?

Did he block it?
Why?


But more important, where is all the money donated to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children actually going?


Mike Grouchy
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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The thing that worries me the most is that this moment seems to be the best possible moment for a "New World Order" or "Novus Ordo Seclorum".

Pay particular attention to your address of the "old guard".

I have a fear that this is all Hollywood now.


What I find most curious of all, yet seems particularly missing during all these Trump/Putin discussions is the fact no political party has won three consecutive terms in the past (nearly) 100 years.

So naturally one should expect a turnover. Having a supposed outsider win office who happens to be on the turnover side isn't the miracle. A miracle would have been a three term democratic presidency.

I have a sinking suspicion we got the president "they" wanted us to get, everything else is a dog and pony show to legitimize it.







 
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