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Maine propane dealer won’t deliver to Trump voters–Leaving 60% of customers out in the cold

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: seasonal


He's not to bright from a legal standpoint, if he causes his customer any harm in cold weather, or their properties, then he'll have a flood of lawsuits coming his way.

It's fine to tell a customer, you won't deliver anymore because they haven't paid, but punishing people, in the dead of winter, because they exercised their constitutional rights, won't fair well in front of a judge, and jury.


The Constitution mandates what a governnment may or may not do, not an individual. There are some statutes, both federal and state, that prohibit discrimination for certain enumerated reasons, but being a Trump voter is not a protected class. The gas company is the guy's own personal property. He most certainly can choose to sell or not sell to anyone he chooses, as long as the choice is not based on a prohibited reason like race, religion, gender, disabolity, or national origin.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Basically.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: F4guy

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: seasonal


He's not to bright from a legal standpoint, if he causes his customer any harm in cold weather, or their properties, then he'll have a flood of lawsuits coming his way.

It's fine to tell a customer, you won't deliver anymore because they haven't paid, but punishing people, in the dead of winter, because they exercised their constitutional rights, won't fair well in front of a judge, and jury.


The Constitution mandates what a governnment may or may not do, not an individual. There are some statutes, both federal and state, that prohibit discrimination for certain enumerated reasons, but being a Trump voter is not a protected class. The gas company is the guy's own personal property. He most certainly can choose to sell or not sell to anyone he chooses, as long as the choice is not based on a prohibited reason like race, religion, gender, disabolity, or national origin.



Actually you didn't fully read my posts and the State of Maine's laws. Maine's state law is clear, he must sell to individuals whether he likes it, or not he cannot deny people fuel for heating. When he got his state license he agreed to it.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:52 AM
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I'm willing to bet a tank of propane that this idiot will blame Trump when his business folds.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth

The problem is the same people who tell others they have to sell to everyone, will likely support this man's choice.

The biggest problem is the partisan hypocrisy.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

really???
it seems like this thread is going pretty much the the same as another thread that popped up on ATS awhile ago....

Tow Truck Driver Leaves Victim on Side of Road Because "Religion"?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

it just seems that some people have had a slight role reversal when it comes to participation, and well, there is less participation because people are rather sick of this election cycle and just want to forget about it asap!!

all the two threads together shows is that there's hypocrisy among us....



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:09 AM
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edit on 18-12-2016 by darepairman because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Just go to you tube plenty of people agree with me, and there is video so you can believe it.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: superman2012




Right, and he won't under stand why crappy things keep happening to him. And of course he will yell that this country sucks.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

Yes you can make one explode, but not every time. Also, a guy with a 50BMG incendiary shooting a small canister like that isn't really making it explode due to fire from an incendiary.

Even your video show that you need external flame to get a fireball, but the tanks didn't explode.

They were spewing fire out of the puncture. The guy used flares, explosives, and incendiary round all at once to get that small reaction.

Like I said it is BS.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

I will just reiterate. Anyone that thinks they can make a LPS propane storage area explode by shooting it with an incendiary is a A class moron.

If a 50BMG incendiary round managed to punch through the back side(exit) of one of those giant propane storage containers it may ignite the pressure release. However if it is filled with propane that round would probably disintegrate before it reaches the back side. Pretty mush everyone knows shooting through liquids doesn't work to well.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi




Just go to you tube and see for yourself, tracers will ignite the propane, 1 or 2 shorts.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: seasonal

I will just reiterate. Anyone that thinks they can make a LPS propane storage area explode by shooting it with an incendiary is a A class moron.



One more lol


edit on 18-12-2016 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

Do you know the difference between shooting a Coleman propane canister and shooting a real propane tank.

You should since you claimed to be practically an expert on it. Just look at your top video. Do you believe they could get such a reaction from shooting the white storage tank on the right? The answer is no.


If big propane storage units were in danger of exploding from a few rounds from incendiaries they would be heavily guarded and restricted. Just imagine one terrorist with a couple incendiary rounds. There is a reason it hasn't happened.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth

You just need 1000 rounds per minute to cut apart a tank to make it work. lol



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

Well...he has that right. We all walk into places everyday where a sign outside says "Management reserves the right to refuse service to anyone". Same thing.


edit on 18-12-2016 by mysterioustranger because: fat fingers



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: seasonal

Well...he has that right. We all walk into places everyday where a sign outside says "Management reserves the right to refuse service to anyone". Same thing.



Signs mean absolutely nothing, it's state laws that count. He can refuse all he wants, but Maine's laws are clear cut.

But the one thing in Maine that stands out is "He" the dealer must sell to his customers period.



§ 100.4 Required Heating Oil Sales A dealer must sell heating oil within its established delivery area to any person who is willing and able to pay cash. The dealer must make this sale even if: A. The person has not paid for a past sale of heating oil; or B. The person is not an established customer of the dealer.

This Rule also applies if payment is to be made in certified or cashier’s check, commercial money order, or their equivalent, or if a government or community action agency has guaranteed to pay on behalf of the person the cost of the heating oil sale. When a person requests 20 gallons or more of heating oil under this Rule, the dealer must deliver the oil no later than the next scheduled delivery to the person’s neighborhood.


CONSUMER HOME HEATING
RIGHTS




edit on 18-12-2016 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
What a crazy nut this guy must be.

I bet he voted for Hillary !!





No more political kick backs for this guy!



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

The walls on the big tanks are 1/4" to 3/8", but if you were to put a couple 7.62 X 54 mm, tracers, and cut the pressure reliefs off the top, there would be a massive amount of gas released. If you were to wait, and the wind was calm, there would be a huge build up of gas in the surrounding air. Then quite simply shoot one round against the side of the tank and the gas out side the tanks flashes, then you have the remainder that would burn off.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger
The business can say whatever they want, the only reason the business can put these signs up is because no one has sue them.



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