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Originally posted by LogansRun
I am not in the military for just this reason. I fully understand the oath that is taken by our military to serve even when the going gets tough, but to what end. Are you telling me that a soldier is supposed to follow ANY order without question, period? I see that this particular person has served for 10 years now. I imagine the military 10 years ago were focusing on other objectives. If you join with good intentions in your heart and you see everything that you have fought for go down the drain and the very organization you swore your life to engaged in corrupt activities, doesn't your duty to humanity outweigh the oath taken by the individual? I am not trying to compare the current situation to WW2, but what if one of hitlers soldiers became disgusted with what he saw his fellow soldiers doing, and decided he wanted out. Wouldn't his fellow countrymen be crying for him to be court martialed and tried for going AWOL - even though morally and ethically he was right?
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by radagast
I'd court-marshall his butt. when he signed up, he was signing up to be an instrument of war. he was trained to kill and survive. what did he think it was, the boy scouts ?
did you serve ten years in the army?
were in fighting in the streets of iraqi cities?
did you see all the terrors of war?
i guess he did see all that.
and he decided to stop.
he has the right to choose, doesnt he?
People are asking how I can spend 10 years in the military and now want to get out, or how I can abandon the people that I have served with. I have to tell them that I saw the wrong way that I had been living and I needed to make some changes. Changes that will hopefully let me live a better life and allow me to be a better part of society.
"Thou shalt not kill." After seeing the immorality of war firsthand, my husband has laid down his weapons to kill no more.
What greater defense of our Constitution is there?
"Thou shalt not kill." We have heard it since childhood, but life, society, religious instruction all find a way to wrap a simple statement into myriad parables until the simple truth is unrecognizable, hidden in justifications, addenda, and codicils. Reality, the act of living it, not dramatizing it, not fantasizing it, not presuming its nature, just living it, gave us all we needed to unwrap the package and face the simple truth.
My work has been taking care of people who are sick or aged so that when it is their time to die, it is with dignity. I saw the true nobility of a life well lived, and a death that was proud; a declaration of peace, and respect for life.
Originally posted by centurion1211
I guess out of approximately 150,000 soldiers in Iraq, there could be a couple of cowards - and a bunch more people to promote them around here.
P.S. My stepson finishes Army basic training in 1 week. Where's he headed next, is unknown (by us) at this time.
[edit on 1/27/2005 by centurion1211]
Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Well, I spent 11 1/2 years in the military myself and yes I am not proud of all the things that I have done
Originally posted by Souljah
i belive if more people in the world,
were thinking like that,
there would be less wars,
and less suffering.
even a single man can make a big change.
the american administration fails to realize,
that the needs of people should be served
before their own self-interests!