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National Geographic’ just made history with its new cover--9 year Old Transgender Activist

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
A lot of what you said is true, no matter how much you and I realize that this is a real thing, there are the sociopaths that are just looking to hurt people. And they do this because they are broken inside. We can't make rules to control those who can't be controlled.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Are you nine? Are you a boy and know you are supposed to be a girl? If so, it's getting late, go to bed.




How much media do you have to consume before you start blowing dudes? I consume a lot and it hasn't happened yet. Are there certain channels I should avoid?

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

I hope I'm the only 9 year old your telling to go to bed.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Transgendered people are making youtube videos and Facebook pages bc there has been so much negative talk about them. They want to put it out there, as much as they can so others like them will not be afraid and so people will more understand and not judge.

Don't feel sorry for them, Im sure they are just fine and very happy if they have a supportive family such as Avery.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
A lot of what you said is true, no matter how much you and I realize that this is a real thing, there are the sociopaths that are just looking to hurt people. And they do this because they are broken inside. We can't make rules to control those who can't be controlled.

Eh?

This isn't about making rules.

It's about whether these kids should be dealing with the stress of being weird and the responsibility of solving the worlds problems.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: veracity

I don't feel sorry for them. And don't care what they do, there life isn't that interesting to me. Of course they may experience the stigma, but it wouldn't be from me, in fact I would more than likely defend a different take on life. If everyone was me this would be a very boring and logical world.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

The stress is brought on by people doing and saying things they shouldn't. If there was no judgements, there would be no stress. My point was there is no rules that can stop the very bottom feeders that are jerks to anyone and everyone who is different.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: seasonal
Jerks can't be legislated against.

And different people will always be different.

A dumb kid being comfortable with their difference shows the progress the adults have made.

Let them find out who Rosa Parks is before you weigh them down with that crown is all I'm saying.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: pompel9
it really matters to no one whose word you take over who, kayla posted that as informational, take it or leave it but no need to tell us what you choose to do.

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Annee

Please understand that I didn't say parents. The media, music industry and even news is slanted. I believe that the parents would have the best interests of the child in mind. But this case seems fishy.


Paul Peterson. A Minor Consideration.

Exploitation of children is a serious issue. I did not feel that was your focus.

aminorconsideration.org...



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal

She is being used by adults to forward a cause that the adults perceive there is Trans-hate around every corner, when there isn't.


You do understand this is a disorder you are born with.

Gender identity starts about age 3.

9 is pre-puberty and hormone blocker time.

This has nothing to do with adults.

This IS intentionally awareness for GID children.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


Are you a transgender?

Have you done research on this and followed it for years?

Your response is one of ignorance.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: rockintitz


If you check out the amount of hormones that now are in Dairy products, we will be seeing a lot more of this, even fish are showing signs of androgyny.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

source?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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Meh, the kids a flip-flopper.

They'd make a good politician.






posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: seasonal

She is being used by adults to forward a cause that the adults perceive there is Trans-hate around every corner, when there isn't.


You do understand this is a disorder you are born with.

Gender identity starts about age 3.

9 is pre-puberty and hormone blocker time.

This has nothing to do with adults.

This IS intentionally awareness for GID children.



Right,

and the climate science is settled, too.




edit on 12 18 2016 by burgerbuddy because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


I guess you didn't see my earlier post where I linked to healthcare sites with treatment guidelines from healthcare professionals. Don't take my word for it. Take theirs.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: seasonal


I've posted about this all the time. Search "why dairy is no longer safe"



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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This is a very long post but I urge you to please take the time reading it if you want to truly know more about this subject. I've spent my afternoon/evening writing it with the hope that it might make a difference to some that have never known or encountered a transgender child. I have a wee bit of personal experience with this.

Post election, I was determined to stay out of ATS discussions but this thread has dragged me back in because I can provide a unique perspective on the subject of transgender children that may possibly help bring a bit more understanding to this issue? I have well over fifty years of intense research into this field, vast experience with the medical establishment treating this condition plus my own anecdotal evidence of having been a transgender child and adolescent in the 1960's and early 1970's.

Briefly, I was born male bodied eight days shy of 62 years ago but I have no memories of ever thinking of myself as anything but a girl. As one can imagine, this incongruity presented some fundamental problems between the outside world and what I knew myself to be, the way I behaved and acted and how I was perceived by others. Needless to say, this was problematic and deeply troubling.

For those of you that are parents, try forcing your son or daughter to live as the opposite gender and see how well that goes over or how distressing to your child that would be emotionally and socially. Would their pretending to be something they are not in heart and soul to meet your and societies expectations not be psychologically damaging? Believe me it is and all the major medical establishments agree that for children diagnosed with gender dysphoria, forcing them into an identity that doesn't fit who they are is more harmful than letting them express themselves congruent with their innate personalities and why we now see young children socially transition.

Sharing my own experience, being able to live openly as the girl I knew myself to be would have been far less problematic than being forced to live as a stranger in a strange land but such things simply weren't done back in the day. I have the scars, both physical and emotional to attest to the difficulties that trans children go through and this isn't something you would wish on your worst enemy.

Don't you think my parents were concerned? They did everything they could to encourage me and/or force me into being a boy but I simply never was or never have been. Because of this I was ostracized and isolated and far more deeply troubled by all this than any young child should have to be. In 1965 before starting the 5th grade, my parents reluctantly sought professional help.

In today's world, transsexualism i.e. gender dysphoria is recognized in children and the vast preponderance of medical evidence and consensus points to biological causes of this supporting the born this way paradigm but in the 1960's, it was virtually unknown and undocumented. Although I was allowed to grow my hair very long and do "girl things" and have girls toys, I could still not BE a girl which vexed me to no end and was only more painfully exacerbated by the fear of and signs of male puberty. Like an unwilling passenger bound to a train going somewhere I didn't want to be, I wanted out of life and out of my body and was a depressed, withdrawn and miserable wreck. The only way I saw to escape was to die and constantly thinking about suicide as an early teen along with the monumental social problems I faced everyday with people that didn't understand me made simply existing hostile and toxic.

This wasn't like being the fat kid or the kid with acne or the poor kid or the funny looking kid. Those kids were still boys or girls which is far more fundamental than other attributes or traits. As any child development book will tell you, a person's sense of their own gender is the core foundation of personality and it is established at very young age, around 2 or 3 and well entrenched by 5 or 6 years old. Think back to when you were children. In the first grade, was there any doubt whatsoever in your mind that you were a boy or a girl. Could anyone have done anything at all to change your mind? We're not talking fantasy or make-believe here or wanting to be a tiger or a soldier or pretend anything. We're talking about a basic and elemental sense of self that takes presidence [sic] over everything else in life and something that clouds and colors the whole world in dark, dull shades.

I was very lucky. It took a while and a horrific "homophobic" assault that put me in the hospital and nearly killed me in the 10th grade but my folks finally recognized the depths of my distress. Although I was frequently misgendered growing up, by the time I was 16 people could really not tell if I was a boy or a girl but due to the laws and attitudes at the time, I could not officially "transition".

I began taking cross sex hormones my senior year in high school. Upon graduation my folks switched to using my girl name and female pronouns which was the only thing that made sense to anyone. There was no surprise, shock or big moment of "coming out". Who I was, the person inside in heart, soul and mind had always been obvious. Although I had been seeing psychologists and psychiatrists regularly since the age of ten, it wasn't until 1973 when I was 18 that a specialists diagnosed me with the deprecated term of having "primary transsexualism" later known as gender identity disorder and now simply called gender dysphoria.

I went on to live my life as a normal young woman fitting quietly and invisibly into society while spending countless hours and tens of thousands of dollars undergoing painful things to undo the effects of testosterone and to correct what to me was an anomaly of birth through sex reassignment surgery. I'd been analyzed, evaluated, diagnosed and counseled more than most people will be in a lifetime by the time I was 20. Turns out I was a pretty together person in spite of what I had been through as a child and teen. My adult life has been no different from any other. I've been married and divorced, had a career and have owned my own successful business for the last 21 years. I've been healthy, happy, free of psychological problems and taking hormones for 45 years that haven't killed me or caused problems yet. My history is known to very few, private and not something people can tell. I've only ever discussed this online here at ATS. I've put my own story out there as a way to help educate, inform and share facts so that those that are willing can "deny ignorance". If you have sincere questions, if asked respectfully I will do my best to answer.

So, back to the topic at hand - transgender children. Yes, they are a real thing. Yes they know what they are long before and independent of sexuality coming into the picture. People make the comment that kids like on the cover of NatGeo are too young to make lifelong decisions but being trans isn't a decision one consciously makes, it is a state of being that just is on a more spiritual or psychic level. It makes you grow up fast.

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