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The Lies of the Right

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: CB328
And here's a full rebuttal:
Take away everyone's guns - He sure tried, luckily the system stopped him. He even issued many executive order's to do as much as he could. Every single mass shooting was used for political purposes by Obama. It was always a call for gun control.

End Capitalism - A claim I never heard phrased like this, but many thought he would be a socialist. They were right, Tax the rich more (check), Increase recipients of government handouts (check), Decimate middle class (check), and Take over healthcare (check). The ONLY reason he didn't do more is because he lost congress after the healthcare takeover.

Outlaw Christianity usher in Islam - He did the latter half exceptionally well (10% growth since 2010 and importing them as quickly as he can get away with). The first half, he never tried to outlaw it, he just always blamed it for everything. He was very hostile to Christianity.

Destroy America - This is very broad and what exactly do you mean? As pointed out in the end capitalism section, he did a lot to 'fundamentally transform' America. To most on the right, this is a destruction of America. He's not a king and only had 8 years, he actually accomplished a lot on this front.

Cause hyperinflation - You mean from debt? You're right, we haven't had hyperinflation. This was a sensationalist claim to sell gold.

Cause another 9-11 - According to the MSM this russian meddling in the narrative for the election is worse than 9-11, this happened under obama's watch. But on a more serious note, he presided over a large number of islamic extremist terrorist attacks.

Install a new fairness doctrine - He's all on board with the 'fake news' abolition. But if anyone said obama wanted the original fairness doctrine, that was laid to rest in june, 2008 by his press secretary.

ETA: The one common theme in this is that Obama was unable to do what he wanted to do which was to achieve the aims you laid out. Just because someone stopped him doesn't mean it was irrational to fear he was trying.
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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: CB328

This is the best right wing lie:



"Gov. Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida. You said Russia ... the 1980s, they're now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years," Obama said.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

insurance rates doubled in the red states only bc the republican govs did not expand medicaid as Obama intended, they refused to do this at the expense of American lives.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite
wow, just wow

fake news much?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: xuenchen

insurance rates doubled in the red states only bc the republican govs did not expand medicaid as Obama intended, they refused to do this at the expense of American lives.


Could be but,

Illinois, Minnesota and Pennsylvania have huge increases coming soon that will double from a few years ago.

Just to name 3.




posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

coming soon? So this is just hearsay? has not happened yet? A psychic prediction?

BTW, i am so proud of you for admitting in one of your posts that it "could be fake news but..."

You are the one that used to obsessively post links to fake news sites in all your threads



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: veracity

Great rebuttal. Care to show me what was fake? I can provide evidence for every assertion I made.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: GreyScale

originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: CB328

Wow, sources? You're making large accusations of lies I have never heard.


Back off... liberals don't need sources. Didn't you get the DNC memo?

Anything bad that happened the Russians did. Anything that you don't understand about how great Obama is just reflects the fact that you are a xenophobic racist bigoted sexist. Besides, it's Bush's fault.

If you're not on the left you lie. It's pretty simple.

/sarcasm

To the OP... thank you for posting. Keep doing so, over and over and over and over until your political ideology finally dies.



This!!!

When will it stop?? When they just put Hillary in charge as POTUS?

All this crying is getting old.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

I'm 49 years old and have been researching and evaluating since the late 90's. I was even part of a small group of researchers that contributed to the content that went into the 9/11 Internet sensation Loose Change.

I've been through it all and have seen it all.

Yes, AJ went bonkers on a couple of occasions where it was hard to tell what he was up to except to openly discredit himself like a type of controlled opposition.

Don't ask me what that was about - I remember that, there was even talk about an imminent nuke going off somewhere.

Perhaps he was under threat or the impression that he was, and by discrediting himself like that, it was his way of inoculating himself as a threat, to bide his time... I don't know it's hard to say what he was thinking.

Things have changed quite a bit since then and AJ has grown and matured and is more careful now.

I would expect someone who's involved in the way that he is, to have gone nuts on more than one occasion. It kind of goes with the territory to a degree.

It doesn't mean that for the most part, he seems to have captured the essence of the current narrative by revealing how the establishment and MSM are absolutely freaking out right now.

These days, I'm starting to trust him more and more and the MSM narrative less and less.

Best regards,

Ankh

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posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:55 PM
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The RINO's on the right made me seek Libertarian/Tea Party people who were NOT establishment goons..

SO...You say you were a moderate?...Who thinks the regular GOP are RINO's and SOME of the TP are too?

What color is the sky in your world?


My sky is blue with white clouds. I see you obfuscating the facts and pretending it didn't happen. You KNOW the POTUS was going after guns we have quoted you and posted for you but you prefer the lies of the lemming leaders on the left. The middle, moderates are being pooped on by both ends and the people on the right here were middle when the middle was normal. The far right are very few and the RINO's are acting as agents of the D's trying to keep the NORMAL people marginlaized.
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posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

The topic isn't about what promises he made that came true or that he accomplished though.

It's about what the Conservatives claimed he would do.

The list is correct. Even you said so.

But you also claim they also happened but we just can't see it. I'd like you to show how they did happen and we just don't realize it.

BTW, if you can show they did actually happen then that would also answer your question about what he accomplished as well.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 08:19 AM
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Forget the lies of the right embrace the rise of the light



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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Just to be clear, will there be a forthcoming "lies of the left" post when Trump is done and all the fearmongering nonsense about him hasn't come true?



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

yeah,with fake news, sorry i don't like to converse with scary people



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: veracity

insurance rates doubled in the red states only bc the republican govs did not expand medicaid as Obama intended, they refused to do this at the expense of American lives.

Yep!

Just yesterday, I decided to look into the ACA website and see what the plans cost. My husband has employer-based insurance for both of us, which went up substantially effective on 1 Jan.....

I wondered if we'd save money if I got separate coverage from ACA. Here in Kansas. THE CHEAPEST ACA PLAN for me and our household parameters is about $1200 per month.

Governor Brownback turned down the expansion funds. Now we all are suffering in many many ways.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite


Take away everyone's guns - He sure tried, luckily the system stopped him.

No. He didn't.

You all were never going to lose your guns. That is a myth created by A Jones or whoever. Utterly false.

That's all I'm going to spend time typing to you, and as far as I am willing to read into your post.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Don't bother. He only debates with people who agree with him.



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: ksiezyc


Do you mean me?


I am she, and I just don't like debating with ignorant people who think they know it all...like yourself



posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: veracity

Never once claimed I know everything. I'm here to learn.

Why keep replying to me?
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