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-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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Wikileaks and certain elements of the CIA who are honest have stated categorically that the leaks were internal and had nothing to do with the Russians. This is all about the US military industrial establishment perpetuating itself and finding a new enemy, now that the Russians have destroyed Daesh with a mere 60 aircraft.

They hate that Putin took a failed economy and built it into one of the strongest in the world, expelled their NGOs and mafia and restored Russian pride... He has run rings around the US in international diplomacy and averted major conflicts repeatedly after the Americans created a neo-fascist state in Ukraine and further destabilised the middle east.

Their Brezinzki and Wolfowitz doctrines have been thwarted and they are losing the "information war" because the Russians actually tell something sadly missing in this world... THE TRUTH!
edit on 17-12-2016 by NeuronDivide because: typos




posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: SaucySosa

So it is OK for the US to run around the world causing 'Arab Spring' and toppling governments around the world and you get butt hurt when someone may have released some damning evidence showing your corruption and pay to play ...

I detest such stupid hypocrisy.

P


The best thing about the whole thing....... The DNC got beat at their own filthy game.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.



Hey guy, you are on a conspiracy website on top of that calling out Russia on their crap is not going to start a civil war, why would it? Makes me wonder what your motives are, why you what to end talks about Russia's actions with threats of war?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: defiythelie

I suggest reading further in the discussion.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:13 AM
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Trump should be installed and the Republicans involved with the Russians should be charged with treason - either way severally diminishes American democracy and the Republic itself.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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DId Russia intervene to give Hillary all those extra votes?



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 03:28 AM
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We've been at war with Russia ever since we imposed sanctions on them for invading Ukraine. We've been fighting them via proxy for a while now. I don't doubt for one minute that Russia wouldn't try to manipulate the outcome of our elections particularly since Trump seems to favor them.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 03:32 AM
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a reply to: superbanjo

The DNC Leadership should be imprisoned for treason and incitement to war, since the Russians didn't do anything.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.


How could there be civil war?

All the Russians did, supposedly, was reveal the truth !

If the Russians distributed "disinformation" and "propaganda" you could possibly make a case against them.

But, the Russians acted like "investigative cops", and simply distributed factual information that the people needed to see to judge their candidates more accurately.

That could be seen as "helping the American people", even if it hurt one or the other candidate, by doing so.

If the Russians "held back" the information they had, that action could also be construed as interfering with the elections.

In this world, we're always damed if we do, and damed if we don't.

Comey had the same problem.

What to do with factual information when you have it?

Any action you take, will have an impact. Even no action.

You can never please everybody.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: NeuronDivide

Nice delusion.
Thanks for the laugh.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 10:30 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.


Oh please.. could you be any more melodramatic?

And I don't see why it's any stretch to think Russia would do this.. it's obvious Putin would have much rather had Trump in office than Hillary. And Russia is involved in hacking into the U.S. on a regular basis (and I imagine it happens in the other direction, just as often).

Even if they did hack into systems of the DNC, it doesn't mean they produced real change to the outcome. And Trump actively supporting Russian intervention just tells me he is a buffoon, not that he was involved in a covert operation to get Russia's aid in winning the election. Acting as if the CIA and FBI are inventing the entire thing is laughable however. The complete incredulity of some folks that this simply has to be a set-up is truly hilarious. What.. you don't think Russia would hack into our systems for a important political win on their part? Of course they would.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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its really funny. A simple Joke said in jest is being used to try and frame Trump as a russian plant. Only in america folks.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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I have a cold.

I have just found out it was the Russians who made me get it.This information is classified so i cant share it.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: muse7

Screw the FBI. I lost all respect for them after this election. The CIA, is full of similar assholes.

They can all go to hell.

I almost want the worst to happen so we can just sort them all out.



edit on 12 18 2016 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: muse7

Next week, from the ministry of truth.... How Trump used hidden Tesla technology to contact Zeta Reticuli and recruit it's alien overlords as helpers.

This is just utterly absurd and until they PROVE it (does ANYONE know what this means anymore damn it) and SHOW THE PUBLIC this evidence they have (if any) you shouldn't believe it either. This is the same Comey that said Hillary broke the law but "what can you do, eh".

Everything in America at the moment is ass BACKWARDS. I just don't understand some people's willingness to accept lies?

Show me ONE proof that this happened, one. Bet you can't.

It's the same proof Blair had about WMD's in Iraq. The same proof the media had about babies being dragged from incubators and rubbed along the floor, it's FAKE. FAKE'. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE news folks.

Seriously here is what you're buying into here, literally and read this properly it's important.

"Hey guys, we here at the CIA and FBI know Russia hacked the election, we have proof you see but we can't show you, you have to trust we have it though. No really we have it in spades, want to see it? You can't see it sorry. We'll show the proof one day, maybe not though, depends how this plays out".

They have PROVED NOTHING.


Agreed. i'm not a trump supporter. But, I've lost trust in the media after this election. What little trust I had left.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: imjack




"You people" are the ones who say the words 'Civil War'. You're just itching for justified murder.


That's an interesting accusation.

Unlike most of you people I've actually seen what happens to a population when war is visited upon it.

Right now we have a push to upend a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations.

That's the kind of thing that leads to civil war. If you wanna see FOBs in your neighborhood and bloodshed in your streets keep pushing it. Because you'll get it. This is exactly what the left in this country wants. Utter chaos, the destruction of American institutions, and eventually the deaths of all who oppose them.


No that's not what your average leftist wants... In fact, there are few real leftists here. If you mean the Democrats, you mean the centrists or center right wingers.

And even they are just being brainwashed right now, on average of course. Your average Democrat doesn't want what you suggest.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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So cute. Now it's Russia that paid riot inciters, booted Bernie, took money from countries that torture women and gays, and gave at least five countries full access to her private email servers and even made the Project Veritas tapes too. They had an earbud telling her to commit perjury in front of the FBI and Congress too, and made AG Lynch meet with Bill too. Do I really need to go on? Because we all could fill pages of her corruption, dating back to Arkansas days.

You guys do realize the ONLY thing left for the left to use is, you guessed it, THE ALIENS!!! LOL!



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: muse7

LOL Washington Post... u do know they are fake news, they never provide evidence only unnamed sources. bwhahaha



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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Coming from the same folks that gave her a pass on willingly breaking the law with classified information...may I remind all that look at what happened to David Petraeus, and he was *far* from the level of what Hillary did....

Why do we give the politicians a pass? F-that..they are supposed to be bound by the very same laws we are, and each year they seem to pad themselves a bit more and a bit more...and now people are behind padding them?

F-you all who think they are above us...they should be held accountable.



posted on Dec, 18 2016 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

Like CNN?



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