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-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: projectvxn

Right now we have a push to upend a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations.


When our intelligence community agrees about something then it probably isn't unsubstantiated, tough guy.

We all want a fair election. Sometimes we don't get one. That's life.

The meek will inherit the earth. Not trump thugs with something to prove.



They all agreed about WMD's too didnt they? Whoopsie doodle!


I would caution the right-wing against betting its credibility by going against the intelligence community. But it doesn't have any.


well the credibility of the intelligence community was destroyed years ago. lets say it is credible though. so there upset that their corruption was exposed thus they should have a second shot at the presidency? i mean how can u really wrap your head around that concept? thats insanity




posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: TheScale

well the credibility of the intelligence community was destroyed years ago. lets say it is credible though. so there upset that their corruption was exposed thus they should have a second shot at the presidency? i mean how can u really wrap your head around that concept? thats insanity


I'm not interested in a second shot for Hillary. I for one want the trump voters to acknowledge that the scale* was tipped, and therefore the current weak state of the Democratic Party does not truly reflect the will of the American people. They want a stronger Democratic Party for checks and balances. They would have gotten it, if not for the Russians.

Look, if I fight with my brother, at the end of the day he is still my brother. I don't want anyone else fighting my brother, and I don't want anyone stepping in. It's between us.

I feel like my brother has a secret Russian partner that stepped in and stabbed me in the back during one of our fights.

*see what I did there?


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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

your an idiot. What do you exactly mean by "you people"?? And you sound like a completely ignorant person. First of all this is a website for conspiracy theories if you cant talk about them here, then where can you? Second of all this is the FBI coming out and saying that they agree with the CIA in their findings that Russia interfered with our election. Why would this cause a civil war? If our DEMOCRACY is compromised in even the slightest bit, that most certainly is cause for pause and something that we should without a doubt look into as a country.

What do you suggest that we should just be okay with a country like Russia meddling in our affairs?

If we find out that our next president has close ties with Russia and may have even called for their support in all of this than he would be a sell out and is not the American president that we need at this time. "Flirting with civil war" GTFOH you need to go back to the loony bin. Because if you seriously think that the call for democracy is a reason to spark a civil war than you are no better than a communist. Maybe you should leave America and go to Russia. That would make us a better country instantly.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: SaucySosa

So it is OK for the US to run around the world causing 'Arab Spring' and toppling governments around the world and you get butt hurt when someone may have released some damning evidence showing your corruption and pay to play ...

I detest such stupid hypocrisy.

P



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: SaucySosa

So it is OK for the US to run around the world causing 'Arab Spring' and toppling governments around the world and you get butt hurt when someone may have released some damning evidence showing your corruption and pay to play ...

I detest such stupid hypocrisy.

P


First of all, two wrongs don't make a right.

Second, I wouldn't blame anyone around the world for resisting meddling from anyone US included. So why should I blame myself for resisting, especially since my gov't didn't ask my approval for any alleged meddling around the world.




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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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So why should I blame myself for resisting, especially since my gov't didn't ask my approval for any alleged meddling around the world.


Because you are protected from an out of control Government by the Second Amendment.

Blow back is a bitch.

But hey, just blame someone else.

P


ETA Who ever did do the hack, they did you a great service to show how corrupt your Government is. Why not change your thinking and just say thank you for all of that damning information.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: muse7

And that's why on Monday Trump will win. Hillary is both unqualified and a tyrant.


Who says I'm saying Hillary should be elected? If Trump doesn't receive 270 votes on Monday, then the US House of Representatives would choose the president.


They can only choose between the top three presidential candidates. That would be either Trump, Hillary... or... Johnson?

Also, this is Fake News. No official release statement.

www.fbi.gov...



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.


THIS X 314,000,000

They're pushing for not just a civil war but an international conflict as well. Can you imagine the level of conspiracy if the right was peddling all of this? The amount of propaganda, lies and outright bollocks that are coming out of the media and the establishment are so staggering.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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Whodaa thunk it.

The 'FBI' is suddenly credible.

Rather an odd thing to hear after being on a CONSPIRACY site for years now.

Someone still needs to explain to me how 'Russia messed with our election' by giving CLinton more votes.

Anyhoo.

Project is right.

The left is playing with fire, and they know it.

Trying to over turn a legitimate election isn't going to turn out well for Trump critics.


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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
a reply to: projectvxn

"This is exactly what the left in this country wants. Utter chaos, the destruction of American institutions, and eventually the deaths of all who oppose them."

LOL. Talk about hyperbole.


To blame it only on the left might be hyperbolic but there appears to be some motivation to cause discourse within a nation. One has to understand that if the electoral college flips the vote, who really knows what will happen despite republican control of the house and senate. Inverted totalitarianism has run it's course. It is nigh time for the authoritative dictatorship to come and replace it. It will be a long road back to democracy for America, it appears it is close to happening.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: BlueMule




So why should I blame myself for resisting, especially since my gov't didn't ask my approval for any alleged meddling around the world.


Because you are protected from an out of control Government by the Second Amendment.

Blow back is a bitch.

But hey, just blame someone else.

P


ETA Who ever did do the hack, they did you a great service to show how corrupt your Government is. Why not change your thinking and just say thank you for all of that damning information.


if only say Australians had been born Americans instead of us none of this would be happening. If only Australia had been in the awkward position of world power all these years instead of us, we would all be in a yuge utopia. Sarcasm off.

I already knew our gov't was corrupt. I know BOTH sides are corrupt. I know Putin is corrupt.

One of The problems with trump voters is they've lost sight of the plank in their own eye because they caught sight of a mote in ours.


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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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One of The problems with trump voters is they've lost sight of the plank in their own eye because they caught sight of a mote in ours.



The activities of Mrs.Clinton, The Clinton Foundation and the DNC can hardly be dismissed as a "mote".

Treason, Criminality and Corruption would be a mildly realistic assessment.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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I think the electors will still back Trump. He's the next POTUS. However, our relations with Russia are going to be strained further. Any hope Trump had mending wounds is gone. Can't say Russia deserves better. Look at Crimea. It's not hard for them to simply find instances of bombing campaigns in Syria to enact new sanctions on Russia. We certainly haven't changed our stance on Assad. It only needs support in the UN so it's not unilateral.

Another thing I've noticed is Trump is very competitive. For him legitimacy of his victory is important. By winning the election on tampering, it's like someone took a sledgehammer to his ego. He's on unsteady ground.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: BlueMule




I already knew our gov't was corrupt. I know BOTH sides are corrupt.


Then do something about it!

Since you have the Second it should not be a problem.

More than anyone else except Israel, you are responsible for your Government.

P



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: SaucySosa

My posts in this thread

Read through them before running your fingers on the keyboard.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: SaucySosa

Perhaps you should think about what you are writing.




your an idiot.





GTFOH you need to go back to the loony bin.





than you are no better than a communist.





Maybe you should leave America and go to Russia. That would make us a better country instantly.


Sort of sets the reply does it not.

I think I prefer reasoned debate rather than hurling insults.

P



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: BlueMule




I already knew our gov't was corrupt. I know BOTH sides are corrupt.


Then do something about it!

Since you have the Second it should not be a problem.

More than anyone else except Israel, you are responsible for your Government.

P


Since I have the second? What the hell is that supposed to mean.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:48 PM
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You wouldn't know proof if it hit you in your face. Even if the "proof" was provided to the right, you fools would just say fake news/facts.



originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: muse7

Next week, from the ministry of truth.... How Trump used hidden Tesla technology to contact Zeta Reticuli and recruit it's alien overlords as helpers.

This is just utterly absurd and until they PROVE it (does ANYONE know what this means anymore damn it) and SHOW THE PUBLIC this evidence they have (if any) you shouldn't believe it either. This is the same Comey that said Hillary broke the law but "what can you do, eh".

Everything in America at the moment is ass BACKWARDS. I just don't understand some people's willingness to accept lies?

Show me ONE proof that this happened, one. Bet you can't.

It's the same proof Blair had about WMD's in Iraq. The same proof the media had about babies being dragged from incubators and rubbed along the floor, it's FAKE. FAKE'. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE news folks.

Seriously here is what you're buying into here, literally and read this properly it's important.

"Hey guys, we here at the CIA and FBI know Russia hacked the election, we have proof you see but we can't show you, you have to trust we have it though. No really we have it in spades, want to see it? You can't see it sorry. We'll show the proof one day, maybe not though, depends how this plays out".

They have PROVED NOTHING.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: draoicht



One of The problems with trump voters is they've lost sight of the plank in their own eye because they caught sight of a mote in ours.



The activities of Mrs.Clinton, The Clinton Foundation and the DNC can hardly be dismissed as a "mote".

Treason, Criminality and Corruption would be a mildly realistic assessment.


Perhaps, assuming the fake news orbiting around her has enough truth in it. I don't think it does. I think part of it is, she stood in the way of a social mechanism that has been echoing since the end of the civil war. Reverberating in the American collective unconscious.






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