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-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win

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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
Next week, from the ministry of truth.... How Trump used hidden Tesla technology to contact Zeta Reticuli and recruit it's alien overlords as helpers.


Great topic - wrong sub-forum.





posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 09:45 AM
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If, it is a big speculative IF, Russia did try to sway the election (no proof) by revealing factual criminal activity, and theiron heads are being demanded on a chopping block for it; then why aren't Hillary and CNN on the same chopping block for PROVEN collusion during the debates when Hillary was being fed debate questions ahead of time?



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
Looks like the evidence is overwhelming

Correction, nonexistent, because none has been presented. Just like the Iraq war when there was "overwhelming" but nonexistent evidence Iraq had WMD's. It appears the CIA and FBI look to dig a deeper credibility hole than they are already in.

If there were any substantial evidence, they would go ahead and put it out now when they could help their team the most. So basically the Democrat operatives in the FBI and CIA are using up the last shreds of their "political capital" to lie as a hail mary pass to Hillary Clinton before December 19.

PS - If the Democrats wouldn't commit so many crimes, there would have been nothing to worry about in the first place. The RNC gets the same level of attacks and what has come out from their side? Well not as many crimes and no treason. The Dems? Treason. We should be happy when our "enemies" do favors like uncover treason, bribery, and other illegal acts. Happy, not pissy, but happy.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: Turkenstein

Because some idiots thinks its wrong to expose criminal activity. Namely the idiots who committed the illegal activity.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Whatever, Comrade.

EDIT: There ain't never going to be a "civil war."

And nobody (credible) on the left is going to "believe" in Russian interference until we see the proof. That ship has sailed. "Trust us, we're with the government" is meaningless in a post-Truth "Trump era" government. If it ever had meaning before.

The good news? This stuff works both ways. We are no more obligated to believe in your version of reality than you are to believe in ours.

The only way there is ever a "civil war" is if the grocery stores shut down and Football is canceled from the TV. Otherwise Americans will continue to do the only thing they are actually fit to do, as a general rule: bitch about stuff on the internet.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: 0zzymand0s

The Democrats severely misjudged the mood of the American people and are still trying to figure out why Clinton lost. You really think people would just do nothing if Democrats stole the election using unsupported conclusions of anonymous sources inside the CIA and Obama administration.


LOL you keep thinking that.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Comey now works for the Russian by trying to investigate Hillary? The liberal lunacy knows no ends.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.


"You people" are the ones who say the words 'Civil War'.

You're just itching for justified murder.


So you are saying it would be justified?

Anyway, yeah - you better be careful. Things are definitely lining up against the whole Progressive Alinsky people. You have no idea what kind of internal rage there is in the country over it. And the more you try to push this false meme - the uglier people who do not agree with you feel inside. I don't understand how you are not disgusted by the fact that your leadership can't seem to take the blame for anything they have done wrong. I did not vote for either of the Bush people, but I cannot see them ever coming out with nonsense like this after they lost an election.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: 0zzymand0s

The Democrats severely misjudged the mood of the American people and are still trying to figure out why Clinton lost. You really think people would just do nothing if Democrats stole the election using unsupported conclusions of anonymous sources inside the CIA and Obama administration.

LOL you keep thinking that.

They are so out of touch that they don't realize that their own lies, corruption, and failure to address the concerns of the American people is why Hillary lost.

It is mind boggling to watch the crap that they keep pulling out of their butts, throwing at the American people and trying to make it stick. The American people no longer trust or believe anything that they have to to say, because they have proven themselves to be liars and not trustworthy.

They are so removed from the people of America that they think they can pull out the old tools of big bad Russia, the terrorist threat, home grown or otherwise, even WMDs, to distract us and manipulate us into going along with their bull.

They are too blind to see that Russia didn't need to do a darn thing for Hillary to lose, she did too fine of a job of that on her own. If they can prove that Russia hacked the system, they will have to also admit that the hacking had zero impact on the election. 22% of the American people voting for Hillary does not make her America's choice, and Russia had nothing to do with that. That falls squarely and 100% on Hillary's and the DNC's shoulders.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


BUT HILLARY WOULDN'T BE????


originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: JacKatMtn
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That's the whole point that nobody seems to grasp, neither of them are deemed fit if one is truly honest, yet and all everyone just falls back into the party position...it should be my leader, not your leader.
So what's going on? Well, it's pretty clear that the PTB have decided themselves that neither are fit, while the Donald is probably advised by now that the push on to influence the electoral college is not one that that includes him...hence he is now attacking the EC, neither does that push favour Hillary, (note that the 7 democratic electors will be voting most likely for a Republican candidate, that also doesn't include Donald.
It is just possible then, that a Republican will be the next president, but other than Donald.

All depends now on the electoral college, and it must be emphasised once again, they can vote by their conscience, regardless of any state law.
If the electoral college fails, it will be those politicians themselves to make some accomodation, that would be interesting!
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

If the EC fails. it will most likely be abolished.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7

You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.

Be careful what you ask for.


They also risk global war all for the sake of power. But least the truth is coming out and Mainstream is Fake News.
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Comey, along with Russia, is the one responsible for getting Trump elected, even Hillary said so. Of course he's gonna pass the buck.

www.usatoday.com...:-putin-and-comey-made-me-lose/95528554/



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: projectvxn

My bait? Whatever doom porn lets you sleep at night pushing civil war.


If you do upend a legitimate election, then that's treason. When the government commits treason against it's own people, that tends to cause civil war.

I won't sit there and tell you it's left's vs right's, because it's not -- it's the government and the ones that eat up their propaganda vs the people and soldiers who correctly identify it as treason.

If there isn't legitimate proof shown, then it's a legitimate election.

Basically, what happened is the DNC got hacked -- which revealed their criminal actions, which cost the election, and the government is trying to blame Russia. If the DNC wasn't engaging in criminal actions none of it ever would have happened. You don't see that it's the government shifting blame from them being criminals to Russia interfering.

I'm not Right or Left, I think if you consign to a total belief system you're a moron. The right isn't always right, and the left isn't always wrong.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable
www.usatoday.com...:-putin-and-comey-made-me-lose/95528554/

What a joke.

Either she blind as a bat, a senile old coot, a blatant liar, or all three.

I have to admit that I would be embarrassed as hell too if I couldn't even win against someone like Trump. She is just too proud to admit that the majority of Americans don't like her, don't trust her, and would rather have a deplorable like Trump as President over her.

Blaming Russia and or Comey for her crimes and shortcomings is such a Clinton tactic that one would be shocked if she didn't use it.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 03:51 PM
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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

Right now we have a push to upend a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations.


When our intelligence community agrees about something then it probably isn't unsubstantiated, tough guy.

We all want a fair election. Sometimes we don't get one. That's life.

The meek will inherit the earth. Not trump thugs with something to prove.


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posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: projectvxn

Right now we have a push to upend a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations.


When our intelligence community agrees about something then it probably isn't unsubstantiated, tough guy.

We all want a fair election. Sometimes we don't get one. That's life.

The meek will inherit the earth. Not trump thugs with something to prove.



They all agreed about WMD's too didnt they? Whoopsie doodle!



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: projectvxn

Right now we have a push to upend a legitimate election based on nothing more than unsubstantiated accusations.


When our intelligence community agrees about something then it probably isn't unsubstantiated, tough guy.

We all want a fair election. Sometimes we don't get one. That's life.

The meek will inherit the earth. Not trump thugs with something to prove.



They all agreed about WMD's too didnt they? Whoopsie doodle!


I would caution the right-wing against betting its credibility by going against the intelligence community. But it doesn't have any.



posted on Dec, 17 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: fractal5

originally posted by: muse7
Looks like the evidence is overwhelming

Correction, nonexistent, because none has been presented. Just like the Iraq war when there was "overwhelming" but nonexistent evidence Iraq had WMD's. It appears the CIA and FBI look to dig a deeper credibility hole than they are already in.

If there were any substantial evidence, they would go ahead and put it out now when they could help their team the most. So basically the Democrat operatives in the FBI and CIA are using up the last shreds of their "political capital" to lie as a hail mary pass to Hillary Clinton before December 19.

PS - If the Democrats wouldn't commit so many crimes, there would have been nothing to worry about in the first place. The RNC gets the same level of attacks and what has come out from their side? Well not as many crimes and no treason. The Dems? Treason. We should be happy when our "enemies" do favors like uncover treason, bribery, and other illegal acts. Happy, not pissy, but happy.


exactly. the DNC seems to be so ignorant that they are actually backing up evidence that was released against them. we should be applauding russia for exposing our corruption if its true. according to assange its not though, it came from the inside according to him.




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