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originally posted by: Tuomptonite
Those "guide" stones are complete rubbish. The blowhards who commissioned this pile of rocks don't even have the balls to stand behind their vague and generic statements. That tells me all I need to know. If somebody has something important and profound to say, they will attach their name to it. I'm not moved by the stones message and I smirk at those who find wisdom from them.
originally posted by: blueman12
If it could be done peacefully, I'm all for those georgia guidestones. However, I think humanity is too ignorant to change. I think there is a good chance that we will breed and war our way into oblivion.
originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: muzzleflash
Ecology and abolishing economic systems based on planned obsolescence and artificial scarcity is a far cry from soulless eugenics.
You propose making procreation an actual crime.
What will the penalty be for having a baby without govt permission and licenses?
One way ticket to alpha centauri?
Fired out of a cannon into the sun?
And what about those born with physical disablities?
They require much more resources and help than a healthy person.
Obviously they will be a drain on the system.
a "cancer" as stated by your beloved stones.
Do we euthanize them too?
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: amazing
There is more than enough resources and space on this planet for billions of more humans if we just manage our resources properly.
Think of this:
There is so much water on our planet that we will never run out...ever. Part two of this statement is that there is more than enough money to build thousands of desalinization plants to harvest the oceans water for our every day needs.
There is more than enough power, if we build more wind and solar installations.
We would then transition all transportation to electric and our pollution would disappear.
And so on and so on. overpopulation and lack of resources is the biggest myth of our modern age.
Perhaps that might be true. Perhaps Earth can sustain 100 billion people or a trillion.
But can you argue any decent reasoning (at least a few points) about why we need or desire that many people?
And does more people mean more problems, like relationship dramas, court cases, hospital visits for injury or disease, etc etc ? Why do we want a forever increasing scale of all of these events? Is it desirable as a species to just say "We should breed to infinity!" and push forward in that direction?
Why exactly is this such a great idea and so precious that we must protect it at all costs?
No one has to be murdered, as you said guideline 2 is an extension of achieving 1. So the reasoning cannot simply be "life is precious and so therefore murder is wrong" because no one is outwardly condoning or suggesting mass murder as the 'final solution'.
So why exactly is mass reproduction without limits such a great idea for our future society?
Also anything related to this you'd like to bring up you are more than welcome.
Professor Bradshaw, Director of Ecological Modelling in the Environment Institute and School of Earth and Environmental Sciences.
Global population has risen so fast over the past century that roughly 14% of all the human beings that have ever existed are still alive today – that's a sobering statistic…
In reply to your post I seem to remember a certain Mrs Merkel stating that Germany does not now have a viable population and that was her reasoning to invite the immigrants into Germany. Most people tend to forget that little gem. And pray tell me how that is working out for the ordinary German citizen now.
We are born into a collective.
Trying to deny or defy this is pretty ridiculous.
If you haven't heard of/read 'Red Mars' by Kim Robinson-Stanley I highly recommend it. It is Sci-Fi, but incredibly well written and highly plausible.