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California Bill of Rights for Children Would Give The State New Powers Over Your Kids

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posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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Dr. Richard Pan, the pediatrician behind SB277, the CA bill that removed vaccination exemptions from thousands of California families is at it again. Apparently he feels that if his agenda is not met, then the state has a better chance of raising your child then you do!

As the veil of socialism slowly descends upon us, one State (California), will soon be responsible for creating guidelines and enforcing what they consider to be acceptable parenting practices. Call me old fashioned, but the government can shove it. My love, intelligence and good nature is all that I need to raise a child.

A direct quote...


“This bill would declare the intent of the Legislature to expand and codify the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California to establish a comprehensive framework that governs the rights of all children and youth in California, outlines the research-based essential needs of California’s children, and establishes standards relating to the health, safety, well-being, early childhood and educational opportunities, and familial supports necessary for all children to succeed.”

The Bill (SB-18): Link


Existing law provides for the care and welfare of children and youth in various contexts, including, but not limited to, child welfare services, foster care, health care, nutrition, homeless assistance, and education.

Assembly Concurrent Resolution No. 80 (Res. Ch. 101, Stats. 2009) declares the Legislature’s support of a Bill of Rights for the Children and Youth of California that resolves to invest in all children and youth in order to achieve specified goals to create an optimal environment for their healthy development.

The bill would declare the intent of the Legislature, by January 1, 2022, to enact legislation for the purpose of ensuring that the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California, in its totality, is applied evenly, equitably, and appropriately to all children and youth across the state.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1.

(a) The Legislature finds and declares that all children and youth, regardless of gender, class, race, ethnicity, national origin, culture, religion, immigration status, sexual orientation, or ability, have inherent rights that entitle them to protection, special care, and assistance, including, but not limited to, the following:

(1) The right to parents, guardians, or caregivers who act in their best interest.

(2) The right to form healthy attachments with adults responsible for their care and well-being.

(3) The right to live in a safe and healthy environment.

(4) The right to social and emotional well-being.

(5) The right to opportunities to attain optimal cognitive, physical, and social development.

(6) The right to appropriate, quality education and life skills leading to self-sufficiency in adulthood.

(7) The right to appropriate, quality health care.

(b) It is the intent of the Legislature in enacting this act to expand and codify the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California created by Assembly Concurrent Resolution No. 80 (Res. Ch. 101, Stats. 2009), to establish a comprehensive framework that governs the rights of all children and youth in California, outlines the research-based essential needs of California’s children, and establishes standards relating to the health, safety, well-being, early childhood and educational opportunities, and familial supports necessary for all children to succeed.

SEC. 2.

It is the intent of the Legislature, by January 1, 2022, to enact appropriate legislation to accomplish all of the following:

(a) Develop and put forth research-based policy solutions that will ensure the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California, in its totality, is applied evenly, equitably, and appropriately to all children and youth across the state.

(b) Determine the amount of revenue and resources necessary to ensure that the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California, in its totality, is applied evenly, equitably, and appropriately to all children and youth across the state.

(c) Identify and obtain the revenue and resources necessary to ensure that the Bill of Rights for Children and Youth of California, in its totality, is applied evenly, equitably, and appropriately to all children and youth across the state.

Snopes had this to say in response to claims that people's children could be "kidnapped" by the State for non-compliance.


The claim: A California Senate bill gives the state the right to seize children from their families

Of course, when one's fear is poorly worded by those in conflict, the oppressor can easily point the finger back and call "us" the extremists. The bill itself is so vague that much of it's imbedded ideals and granted authority will need to be witnessed in order to be understood. If this goes into effect, the courts are going to have their hands full.

What if the State concludes that parents are not creating the right environment or contributing to their child’s well-being? Are certain fears unsubstantiated or irrelevant considering the bill's good intentions? Why can’t parent’s be entrusted to do the same without the government's involvement? Please convince me why this is a good thing and necessary for our children to grow up safe, healthy and successful.

I don't get it.


edit on 15-12-2016 by eisegesis because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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Notice how the wording is always plural: parents, adults?

Does this mean that California is now mandating the two parent framework?



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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And let me guess, if the State decides any of that long list isn't being met they can take the kids away?

What's the point of this otherwise?

This is basic Human Rights stuff, by the way, it just goes without saying, so again, whats the point of this otherwise, folks?



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
And let me guess, if the State decides any of that long list isn't being met they can take the kids away?

What's the point of this otherwise?

This is basic Human Rights stuff, by the way, it just goes without saying, so again, whats the point of this otherwise, folks?


So what does the state do with your kids when it takes them ... redistribute them to more deserving parents who then milk the system for the foster money?

I've seen stories on how the CPS Gestappo works in Cali. They'll determine you are endangering your child if you deign to seek a second opinion from another doctor.



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
And let me guess, if the State decides any of that long list isn't being met they can take the kids away?

What's the point of this otherwise?

This is basic Human Rights stuff, by the way, it just goes without saying, so again, whats the point of this otherwise, folks?
So they can widen the scope of action/non action that will allow the state to take your kids.

"You missed a vaccine? We're taking your kids!"

Missed to many days of school? We're taking your kids!"

"Johnny's got a bruse on his arm? We're taking your kids!"

"Alice has a D average? Taking all your kids!"


Basically,

"All your kids are belong to us!!"

GAME OVER



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


But but California represents the popular vote so we should just go along with whatever they say!



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


But but California represents the popular vote so we should just go along with whatever they say!


Hillary would be all for it. You know she thinks it takes a village to raise a child.



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


really?.....here's Ohio's......
jfs.ohio.gov...
stand up against them first, and see how that goes



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Don't get it?

Its a money grab, pure and simple. I've seen comparable stuff in other states, under different names of course, and it all amounts to a money grab.

How does it work?

Simple, the local Child Protective Services officers work hard to find kids living in conditions deemed unacceptable. They then instigate proceedings to "remove" the child from the dangerous situation; they then proceed to court to alienate parental rights with the goal of forcing the kids into the Foster care system. Part and parcel of those procedures is to force the natural parents into a position of having to pay child support to the State, of which a portion is paid into the Foster care system.

Its all about the money; its all about more State employees. All you have to do is follow the money.

But hey............my question..........if you don't live in California, what do you care?



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I'm playing devil's advocate. If it is Clinton's opinion that it "takes a village to raise a child", how can you be certain that's wrong, aside from partisan rancor?



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: eisegesis

Don't get it?

Its a money grab, pure and simple. I've seen comparable stuff in other states, under different names of course, and it all amounts to a money grab.

How does it work?

Simple, the local Child Protective Services officers work hard to find kids living in conditions deemed unacceptable. They then instigate proceedings to "remove" the child from the dangerous situation; they then proceed to court to alienate parental rights with the goal of forcing the kids into the Foster care system. Part and parcel of those procedures is to force the natural parents into a position of having to pay child support to the State, of which a portion is paid into the Foster care system.

Its all about the money; its all about more State employees. All you have to do is follow the money.

But hey............my question..........if you don't live in California, what do you care?


Because CA is one GIANT rotten apple. Lots of influence in other states. A huge drain on federal finances. In any bucket of apples, one must throw out the rotten ones.



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


really?.....here's Ohio's......
jfs.ohio.gov...
stand up against them first, and see how that goes


This thread is about California. Want to discuss Ohio? Start a thread on it. Deflection much?



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux
wrong, and a lie, about California being a "drain" on federal finances....we give more than we get back.....you would know that, if you did a 1 minute worth of research, and were an honest member....



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: TonyS


Its a money grab, pure and simple. I've seen comparable stuff in other states, under different names of course, and it all amounts to a money grab.

I do get it, but for the sake of discussion, I try to shelve my inhibitions and approach the topic objectively. I'm all kinds of paranoid and pessimistic when bills like this are introduced, but it doesn't make for a good thread when I use my personal opinions as the foundation.


the local Child Protective Services officers work hard to find kids living in conditions deemed unacceptable.

If anyone watched the video, this new bill is directly tied into bill SB 277. They will first require your children to be vaccinated or they will not be able to attend public schooling. Previously, they could attend public school with an exemption notice.

Now, if your child is not eligible to attend public schooling, which the majority of children do, the State will then turn their attention towards the caretakers. Since the caretakers have decided not to vaccinate the children that they look after, under this new proposal, they are deemed detrimental to that child's well-being.


They then instigate proceedings to "remove" the child from the dangerous situation; they then proceed to court to alienate parental rights with the goal of forcing the kids into the Foster care system.

Of course, in order to avoid such a fate, compliance is paramount and the ability to raise your child as you see fit becomes null and void unless you are willing to drag it out in court. How they will ensure these guidelines beyond knowing that your child has been vaccinated or not is the most concerning.


But hey............my question..........if you don't live in California, what do you care?

I could get into it all, but California is a testbed for progressive ideals. These are the same ideals that coincide with globalist ideology. It all equates to a virus that I could either catch willingly or die trying to avoid. If California works, the rest of America will follow suit.

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posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


really?.....here's Ohio's......
jfs.ohio.gov...
stand up against them first, and see how that goes


This thread is about California. Want to discuss Ohio? Start a thread on it. Deflection much?


I don't care if you think it's a deflection....there's enough kids around the nation that get abused by their parents, it's not JUST a California problem, it's in your own state, too



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Arizonaguy

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: eisegesis

I despise California.

They are a disgusting Authoritarian Socialist state. They are everything I stand against. If they want to secede I say let them. They can take their BS with them.


really?.....here's Ohio's......
jfs.ohio.gov...
stand up against them first, and see how that goes


This thread is about California. Want to discuss Ohio? Start a thread on it. Deflection much?


I don't care if you think it's a deflection....there's enough kids around the nation that get abused by their parents, it's not JUST a California problem, it's in your own state, too


Once again, this thread isn't about abused children in every state. It's about possible heavy handed and overreaching laws in California. If you want to start a thread about child abuse in every state, then by all means feel free to do so...more deflection.



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

The "state" has proven itself time and time again to be incompetent, abusive, self-serving, self-absorbed.

It's like having a meth addict take your kids.

Police-state bull.







 
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