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House Passes Bill Allowing Government to Microchip Citizens with “Mental Disabilities”

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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: anotherside

I think its my left side, cleverly placed near the heart.
I've been abused bad because of it.


I can't tell what that x ray is of. But you can always find a different doctor, just tell him you have a lot of pain there. Say you may have fallen on something at work...good way to get a second opinion. No, say while working outside on landscaping or something at your home. Many doctors won't look at it if it might be work-related.
those are my ribs, I'm zoomed in on my shoulder blade, do you not see the rice looking thing on a wire? I think it's a bone conductor, neural feedback.
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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: anotherside
There is an area that seems out of place, but I'm not a radiologist.

There is a doctor that has (or says he has) removed things like this. I will look for a link.


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Found it, it's Roger Leir. Though he was focused on 'alien abduction' implants. Oo..he passed in 2014.

I will look for another.
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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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What's to stop the chip designers from putting mind control in the chip?



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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In the future people wonder why more new borns are having more disabilities as people with bad genes live longer than the ones with good genes.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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Also the coating of them have caused cancer, what "resin" will they use?



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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Two questions.

Do that many people wander off that lo jacking them is worth while?

And wouldn't a bracelet of some sort work just as well?



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: reldra

It wasn't specifically spelled out, it was a go around.

I looked into the bill, it was for implantable medical device, it's been a while- I think level 2 or something like that. I checked out the verichip and the chip was the same type of device.

It was removed because of the outcry over it.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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Have a cell phone? Have it with you almost constantly? You already been chiped.

They can also track bank cards and newer cars with GPS built in.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Two questions.

Do that many people wander off that lo jacking them is worth while?

And wouldn't a bracelet of some sort work just as well?


It would. A bracelet or necklace with as $12 item you can buy to find your phone or laptop or an app that is available now that helps you find your phone when installing the app AFTER, can do this.

I bought something like this for my housemate last christmas. The one I bought cost less and he says it works great.

I recently came across PlanB, the app that finds your phone AFTER you lose it without having installed it first.

If those can track items, they can track people as a wearable item.
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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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The original article does not mention microchip. It just says tracking device.
They are likely talking about ankle bracelets and things like that.

I think it is a good idea.

This year a little autistic boy went missing. Hundreds of people were out looking for him.
Sadly he had wandered off and drowned in a creek. Autistic children are attracted to water.
If he had an ankle bracelet, he could have been found quickly.
They made a big deal about that fact in the news after the story, saying the family could not afford a tracking device, even though they are available.

Every week there are news stories about missing people who wandered off, usually those with Alzheimer but often those who have other mental disabilities.
Some die of exposure before they are found.

The bill calls for financing of tracking devices for those who need them. It does not order that everyone must have one.
And it does not order microchips.

ETA: Adding link.
This broke my heart when it happened:
After autistic Allentown boy's death, a new urgency to spread tracking technology


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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
The original article does not mention microchip. It just says tracking device.
They are likely talking about ankle bracelets and things like that.

I think it is a good idea.

This year a little autistic boy went missing. Hundreds of people were out looking for him.
Sadly he had wandered off and drowned in a creek. Autistic children are attracted to water.
If he had an ankle bracelet, he could have been found quickly.
They made a big deal about that face in the news after the story, saying the family could not afford a tracking device, even though they are available.

Every week there are news stories about missing people who wandered off, usually those with Alzheimer but often those who have other mental disabilities.
Some die of exposure before they are found.

The bill calls for financing of tracking devices for those who need them. It does not order that everyone must have one.
And it does not order microchips.




And this is why it will happen. For the children.

Thank you for the opinion.
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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Have a cell phone? Have it with you almost constantly? You already been chiped.

They can also track bank cards and newer cars with GPS built in.


Yep, looking at my google account, I was reminded of where I have gone the last 4 years. Almost every place. It was quite shocking.

I don't have a car. I use Paypal debit and prepaid cards. None of those are chipped, yet.
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(post by reldra removed for a manners violation)

posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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H.R.3200 – America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, discussed data collection from drugs and devices, including class II devices like implantable RFID chips. The provision was meant to help track faulty implanted devices. No version of the law has included any wording pertaining to mandatory microchip implants.


obamacarefacts.com...

It was talk about but never implement. Still the door was open for the makers of microchip to work on them with government subsidies. Even if now considered a myth, it was still part of the old version wording.


The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on Wednesday announced $139 million in grants to help make real President Bush’s push for electronic health records for most Americans within a decade.


Now let no forget that the approval of the implantable chips in humans was under the Bush administration, and the grants to the companies are still on going.

www.nbcnews.com...

Medical microchip for people may cause cancer


When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved implanting microchips in humans, the manufacturer said it would save lives, letting doctors scan the tiny transponders to access patients’ medical records almost instantly. The FDA found “reasonable assurance” the device was safe, and a sub-agency even called it one of 2005’s top “innovative technologies.”

But neither the company nor the regulators publicly mentioned this: A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had “induced” malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

“The transponders were the cause of the tumors,” said Keith Johnson, a retired toxicologic pathologist, explaining in a phone interview the findings of a 1996 study he led at the Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Mich.

Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people.

To date, about 2,000 of the so-called radio frequency identification, or RFID, devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp. The company, which sees a target market of 45 million Americans for its medical monitoring chips, insists the devices are safe, as does its parent company, Applied Digital Solutions, of Delray Beach, Fla.


The companies claim that is not prove of cancer or tumors from the chips but they have not taken the time to do research.


Published in veterinary and toxicology journals between 1996 and 2006, the studies found that lab mice and rats injected with microchips sometimes developed subcutaneous “sarcomas” — malignant tumors, most of them encasing the implants.

.•A 1998 study in Ridgefield, Conn., of 177 mice reported cancer incidence to be slightly higher than 10 percent — a result the researchers described as “surprising.”

•A 2006 study in France detected tumors in 4.1 percent of 1,260 microchipped mice. This was one of six studies in which the scientists did not set out to find microchip-induced cancer but noticed the growths incidentally. They were testing compounds on behalf of chemical and pharmaceutical companies; but they ruled out the compounds as the tumors’ cause. Because researchers only noted the most obvious tumors, the French study said, “These incidences may therefore slightly underestimate the true occurrence” of cancer.

•In 1997, a study in Germany found cancers in 1 percent of 4,279 chipped mice. The tumors “are clearly due to the implanted microchips,” the authors wrote.


www.nbcnews.com...

I am sure that is we get millions of people implanted is going to be a surge of side effects from the implants.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

This part is not really saying that:


The provision was meant to help track faulty implanted devices. No version of the law has included any wording pertaining to mandatory microchip implants.


And that is right in the law. It seems to be mentioning things already implanted in 'drugs and devices'. I would imagine devices that deliver drugs.
But true, you are right to point out studies of cancer from chips. But, at the time, they would have been larger. The body generally wraps cells and a barrier around anything foreign and that can lead to a tumor.

now, I think the chips they speak of would not make a blip on the immune system.


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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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Again - the title of this thread is misleading.

Nowhere in the bill does it talk about microchips.

The bill talks about grants for tracking devices for people with Alzheimer and autism, as well as for training of first responders to locate them.

Tracking devices - LIKE THESE
And THESE

It is all about protecting these individuals.

Please read the BILL


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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
Again - the title of this thread is misleading.

Nowhere in the bill does it talk about microchips.

The bill talks about grants for tracking devices for people with Alzheimer and autism, as well as for training of first responders to locate them.

Tracking devices - LIKE THESE

It is all about protecting these individuals.

Please read the BILL



I read it. It goes on to say they would take bids and give grants....the type of device is not clear. An injectible nanochip would be a lot easier that a surgically implanted- 15 year old technology- type pf device.
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I read the bill before my first response in the thread.
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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Yes one of the original means to push for the implantable chip under the Bush administration was for medicinal purposes.

I remember that we had threads in this issue back when the FDA approved the implantable chip on humans back in 2004.

Is been 15 years already so I imagine that is a reality, the companies needs to find a way to get people to accept them.

Now the proposed bill is not a mandatory bill, but I wonder how long it will be when that becomes a reality.

I personally will never allow a chip to be implanted on me.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: marg6043
True, and so many years have passed, it will not be a necklace or a bluetooth anklet. If that was the case the 'Help I;ve fallen and can;t get up people' would install long range, gps and blutooth tracking between a family member and a person at risk.

This will be a nanochip.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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We can think that implantable chip will be part of the bill,


Ultimately, the company hopes patients who suffer from such ailments as diabetes and Alzheimer’s or who undergo complex treatments, like chemotherapy, would have chips implanted. If the procedure proves as popular for use in humans as in pets, that could mean up to 1 million chips implanted in people. So far, just 1,000 people across the globe have had the devices implanted, very few of them in the United States.

The company’s chief executive officer, Scott R. Silverman, is one of a half dozen executives who had chips implanted. Silverman said chips implanted for medical uses could also be used for security purposes, like tracking employee movement through nuclear power plants.


From one of my sources.

Eventually under purpose of medicinal treatments it could become a reality.



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