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posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 04:58 AM
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My friends,

Time is an illusion instantiated by memories and forethought.

There is only a "now" which is constantly changing. Those with memory can remember the previous state while experiencing the current state. Those who have forethought will anticipate the next state while experiencing the current state. This manifests the illusion of time. That is because the previous and next state only exist in the mind, they don't exist elsewhere, only the current state exists.

Imagine having absolutely no memory and no ability of forethought. You would be in a state where you are constantly observing everything for the first time. You would not be observing it for the first time every second, nor every millisecond, nor every nanosecond, nor in Planck time. You would be observing it faster than any unit of time you could imagine because there is no time. There is only an infinite now.

One only needs to understand the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment and Quantum Entanglement with the notion that time doesn't exist at all, its an illusion. Then what I tell you will be revealed as truth.

Quantum entanglement is made possible because the two entangled particles are one object. They appear as two because they are separated by space time, however, time is an just illusion. This allows instantaneous spooky action at a distance because no information needs to travel faster than light from one particle to the other through any space time. There is no time, and there is no need to travel because it is one object.

When you observe the double slit experiment, understand what I have said about having no memory and no forethought, and experiencing everything for the first time infinitely. Each particle in the double slit experiment has no memory, it has no forethought, so therefore it has no past and no future, it only has a current state that is constantly changing, or infinite possibilities. The specific particle you decide to observe in the experiment didn't travel through any of the slits, in fact, it didn't travel at all through space time because there is no time, there is no past, so therefore there is no path. You just observed or recorded that particle anew - you committed it to memory in one of its possible states. This commitment into memory is what you would describe as "collapsing the waveform".

Since the particle has no past, when you force it to commit to memory when you observe it you instantly create the illusion that the particle has had a past and that it did travel through space time, and created the illusion that it did travel a specific path. It is forced to appear to the observer in one of the infinite possible states that it could be in at any of the infinitely small moments of the current state. Just because it is observed in a specific state, doesn't necessarily mean it was in the previous state you think it was, nor does it mean its next state will be where you think it will be.

Once you commit it to memory, that is when forethought also takes over. You then expect the particle to be at a certain position and state the next time you observe it, so you end up observing it on a path. It becomes an actual particle instead of a wave.

If you don't observe and commit the particle to memory during a specific portion of the particle's infinite changes of state, but you commit the result of the experiment instead, the particle would appear as a wave when you observe the result. That is because you didn't force it to create an imaginary past or future, nor did you create one for it.

This then explains the ability to erase the past in the quantum eraser experiment. If you forget or destroy or overwrite what was committed to memory, then the past is erased or unknowable. Another method is to "scramble" the memory by committing all the possible states the particle was in. That would then make it difficult for you to assume the particles past and therefore its path and origin, and make it difficult to use forethought to predict a future path and destination. So its observed as a wave.

In the quantum eraser experiment they observe the result of one of the particles (A) passing through the eraser portion of the experiment designed to destroy the committed memory, and they found a wave because of that. Since they observed (A) before they observed the other entangled particle (B) which should have hit a detector before particle (A), they observed particle (B) as a wave too, because they are observing one particle not two. That one particle was allowed to change after it hit the first detector and before they observed it. To the observer this appears that the past was changed, but really the particle was the only thing that changed, and they observed it after the changes took place. So both particles (A) and (B) will always be observed identically every time. It will show up as whatever you last observed it as and committed to memory (the past).

With this you shall see.
edit on 14-12-2016 by More1ThanAny1 because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: More1ThanAny1

thank you, i am simply posting to follow thread and read interesting comments.



Imagine having absolutely no memory and no ability of forethought


ha ha
imagine to stop imagining?
well interestingly...in essence this is what wise mystics were or are teaching.
known as turiya, satchitananda or nirvikalpa samadhi and so on... depending on which philosophy you choose to study.



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: More1ThanAny1

Your theory is wrong. Time does exist, but only as a creative manifestation of awareness. You misunderstand the multidimensionality assumed by many theories in quantum physics.

Not only does the past EXIST simultaneously with the NOW, but the future also exists simultaneously with the past and the now. In fact, it is theoretically possible to move through space/time in a way that the past CAN BE VISITED, and the future as well.

The most interesting fact about all this is that EVERY PROBABLE PAST AND FUTURE exists simultaneously. Consciousness moves through [via creative perception] probable realities in "time". It follows that, if you were to visit the past or future in a "time machine", theoretically you would end up in a "probable past" or "probable future" rather than in a linear timeline. lol



posted on Dec, 14 2016 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: More1ThanAny1

You're struggling with the liar's paradox.

Basically, you're measuring two points of time / will, and seeing that your two different measurements result in two different answers, and so you conclude that time doesn't exist -- your answer is the "neither" answer to the liar's paradox.

The actual answer is closer to what jayfkntee is saying:

The answer to a measurement mostly depends on the measurement itself. (The will / time of the measurement.)



Think about it like a calculator's quasi-infinite number and function set is time. That is, all of the information is already in the quasi-infinite number and function set / all of time is already there, but the answer that's returned (quantized) depends on what measurement is used.

e.g. If you measure with "1+1=" you will get "2" as your answer, versus measuring with "2+1" and getting "3" as your answer.




Part of what is being measured out is the will / time of the measurement itself, and so that is why there's differing answers (a paradox): you're trying to make two points in time (two differing wills / two different measurements) be one measurement, and so when you get two different answers, you think something is wrong (that it is paradoxical).



posted on Dec, 15 2016 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: jayfkntee
Your theory is wrong. Time does exist, but only as a creative manifestation of awareness. You misunderstand the multidimensionality assumed by many theories in quantum physics.


My friend, I didn't misunderstand anything. You can't misunderstand what you've come to know by yourself.


originally posted by: jayfkntee
Not only does the past EXIST simultaneously with the NOW, but the future also exists simultaneously with the past and the now. In fact, it is theoretically possible to move through space/time in a way that the past CAN BE VISITED, and the future as well.


I humbly disagree. The past does not exist anywhere but in your memories. It can not be visited physically because there is nothing to go visit. There is only a now, and all the matter and energy that exists now is the same exact matter and energy that existed in the "past" which is now just a memory. There is literally no matter or energy to go visit. All the matter and energy that exists now is all there is.

In order to visit the past physically it would mean every single nanosecond or Planck time the totality of the universe and all matter and energy would need to be duplicated and stored somewhere so you can go visit it. Alternatively you would have to rewind all chemical and physical interactions of all matter and energy that took place over the time between now and the past state you want to visit. That is not possible.

The now, and all matter and energy, and the totality of the universe that exists now is all there is. There is nothing to go back to, and nothing to go forward to. This is true when you understand what is happening in the quantum eraser experiment. One of the particles of the entangled pair that hits the detector first has the same properties as the other entangled particle that hits the last detector at a later state. That is because they are one object that only exists now. They attempted to measure the past, but only measured the now.



originally posted by: jayfkntee
The most interesting fact about all this is that EVERY PROBABLE PAST AND FUTURE exists simultaneously. Consciousness moves through [via creative perception] probable realities in "time". It follows that, if you were to visit the past or future in a "time machine", theoretically you would end up in a "probable past" or "probable future" rather than in a linear timeline. lol


That is simply not what the experiments have shown. You can't create a "time machine" because the matter and energy of the "past" and the "future" only exist in the now.

This can be proven with entangle pairs of particles; you measure and record entangled particle (A) at a certain state at 12:00 AM but you don't view the result, then you force the other entangled particle (B) to change states at 12:01 AM which should also change particle (A). When you go to view the measurement you took of particle (A) at 12:00 AM you will see it matches the state of particle (B) even though you changed the state of particle (B) after you took the first measurement. That is because the particle you change in the now (B) is the same particle that existed in the past (A).
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