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Pastor Screams " Santa does not exist " to kids

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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:58 PM
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Ive seen many disturbing things in my life, but im not sure what to make of this. Especially when it its directed towards kids, in the same sort of manner a San Diego Catholic church implied Clinton is Satanic, say voting Democratic is a "mortal sin" and means hell.



Pastor is usually an ordained leader of a Christian congregation. A pastor also gives advice and counsel to people from the community or congregation.

The word "pastor" derives from the Latin noun pastor which means "shepherd" and relates to the Latin verb pascere - "to lead to pasture, set to grazing, cause to eat".[1] The term "pastor" also relates to the role of elder within the New Testament, but is not synonymous with the biblical understanding of minister. Many Protestant churches call their ministers "pastors".
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What happens when one of the Pastors goes his own way, forget about his studies in Theology and Philosophy? One thing i had to learn in my studies, as a man of God you should lead by a good example not by an extremist view, you should teach humanity but not force a doctrine, you should teach people the way of making the right choice, not enforce a cultural subjective dogma.

I believe the man should be relieved of his position by the simple means that, he used to his own agenda. But its just my opinion
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

So he believes in a mythical being but doesn't want children to believe in a mythical being.
Bit hypocritical I think.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

They've opened the floodgates now that The Donald has been elected.

Unhinged Trump supporter barges into pro-LGBTQ church and threatens to spread fake pedophilia rumors



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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Bastard!!

He has no right to deliver such fake news. I sincerely hope the Government closes this Pastor down, BIG time.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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tikbalang

Man..that's harsh..and I was just gonna post a poem called It's not Santa..lol

Maybe I'll hold off for a bit..

This isn't for him to decide..it's the parents decision on how to raise their children. At least that's what I think.

anyhow..really sad people can't just let the kids be kids..

Thanks,
blend57



I guess this story is why it's not right to disillusion kids..maybe Santa is all they have..you dunno what the circumstances are of those children. It is not right to take away maybe that one thing that is keeping them happy in an otherwise sad and painfully hard life. I dunno..don't get the need to do that..just upsets me I guess..

Thanks again,
blend57


edit on 13-12-2016 by blend57 because: added video and additional thoughts...



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:08 PM
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Argh that man makes me angry!
If he is in fact a pastor, preaching somewhere, how would he like it if someone were to barge in and tell all the children that Jesus does not exist and that he should stop lying.
Who does he think he is?!
What ever does he want to accomplish?
If to win souls, he would only be pushing them away like this.
Respect for those dads to have remained so calm.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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Santa is not going to be happy about this.


I believe there will be a drive by shooting, the minister will get hit with Reindeer poopl



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Or a mass mailing of the following...

Yes, Virginia...


DEAR EDITOR: I am 8 years old.
Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus.
Papa says, ‘If you see it in THE SUN it’s so.’
Please tell me the truth; is there a Santa Claus?

VIRGINIA O’HANLON.
115 WEST NINETY-FIFTH STREET.

VIRGINIA, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men’s or children’s, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no VIRGINIAS. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that’s no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

You may tear apart the baby’s rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, VIRGINIA, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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I never lead my kids to believe in a Santa,



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: z00mster

From what I understand, he's affiliated with the Westboro Baptist bunch.

All they want is attention and someone to take action against them so they can sue.

Best way to deal with such people is pay no attention to them. Don't feed the real life troll.

In my opinion, the man is technically correct about Santa and commercialism taking away from Jesus. He just chooses a way to spread that message which is in extremely poor taste.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: tikbalang

So he believes in a mythical being but doesn't want children to believe in a mythical being.
Bit hypocritical I think.


Ah, yes, I have seen this comment in every. single. thread of comments on this story today. I knew ATS would not fail to disappoint.

Points to you for being the first comment though. I starred you for that and nothing else.


This comment is so predictable and tired.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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We don't stress Santa Claus in our house, but we don't shy away from him either. When the time comes, we'll all learn about St. Nicholas who is very likely the grain of truth behind the man in red.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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One sad thing about Scandinavia, before we start our first day in School they will say and teach you, no Jesus, no santa, no muhammad, no easter bunny, no magic, nothing.. Buuuut, we have traditions, and they are important..



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:31 PM
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Sounds like the Jesus pot calling the Santa kettle black.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Santa does exist.

As a fat old man with a greying beard, trust me.

I get mistaken for that bastard every time I go to the mall.




posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Pic or it didnt happen!



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

What a great thread, and a touching letter, seagull. Thanks to both
the OP and yourself.


Official name Saint Nicholas Day
Also called Feast of Saint Nicholas
Observed by Anglicanism, Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy,
Lutheranism, Methodism, Reformed[1]
Type Christian Significance Feast day of Saint Nicholas


Wiki. It's even a Catholic holiday too. It looks like this evangelist
strayed off the res far enough to be Ebeneezer Squelch. It's horse
hockey Dano. Book him and bust his collar... I'd lose that 'church' too.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

You can teach your children that if you want, but I'll stick with the humble man silently and anonymously making sure families in need had what they needed. Promotes better values if you ask me.

I'd rather my kid learn that than develop a taste to go all Ragnar Lothbrok on me.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Its taught at school and kindergarden, sometimes we let kids be kids for to long or we smash the fantasies far to early.
Noble Savages i think we are called sometimes, means, civilized people without a soul.




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