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Sweden plans to reintroduce compulsory military 2019

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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In Scandinavia we been taught a few set of words in peace time;" The Russian is Coming ." I did compulsory military service, like many other who were born in the same year, but during the late 90:s something changed, and im not sure if it was for the better or worse.

The Swedish military was deassembled, they were going for the American style apparatus, a professional army, for better or worse. The reason Sweden had compulsory military service to begin with for almost 100 years, was not only to defend its borders, but also teach kids to become men, learn your obligations, to work in a group, to be on time and many other things. It takes about 12-18 months to form something useful in society.

The major problem with the American style version, its inhumane and in country were the people are socialists,where they teach each other to embrace the humane, all of a sudden they had to look out for themselves, its a recipe for conflicts and catastrophic consequences.
It seemed like a great idea pitched by a few, what happened in the end. They ones who pitched the idea, were placed on the gallows by the people.

A mess built on 20 years of ideals, ideas, hope and humanity, were exploited by those who understood anything is up for grabbing. But now its up to the people to fix the mess those who were put in place by people with only their self interest.
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The Scandinavian country, which has not seen armed conflict on its territory in two centuries, ended conscription after it was deemed an unsatisfactory way of meeting the needs of a modern army.

“I hope that we are going to find a path to a more stable, robust and functional means of recruitment,” the defence minister, Peter Hultqvist, said.

The policy will affect Swedes born after 1999, according to a report by a former member of parliament for the defence ministry. The measure is expected to be adopted by parliament, subject to agreement between the leftist government and the centre-right opposition.

Approximately 4,000 18-year-olds of both sexes are expected to be called up each year.


Both genders will do mandatory military service, and i believe its for the better.
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If more Scandinavian countries followed, i believe it could work for the whole Scandinavian region in positive way. Im hoping Norway will follow.
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Article - The Guardian
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:39 PM
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Good for them. they see their weak men have created a scenario that will bring hard time and require strong men for the future. Mandatory military for a couple years (for both genders) is a good thing. brings back patriotism, pride, etc.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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We have compulsory military here in Brazil as well, despite the fact that our last war was 150 years ago and no upcoming ones in the foreseeable future.

But it does indeed teach discipline and respect, among other stuff.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: gusamaso

Did you do military service?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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It is a logical step for them with the Growing Putin threat,the possible Isolationist Trump Presidency and the degradation of the EU.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle
It is a logical step for them with the Growing Putin threat,the possible Isolationist Trump Presidency and the degradation of the EU.

No.

A far more immediate threat given it's Sweden, is Islam infiltrating their military ranks.

If Sweden had someone like Trump leading the country, they'd be far safer. It's the liberals who turned that country into the rape capital of Europe.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: Pyle
It is a logical step for them with the Growing Putin threat,the possible Isolationist Trump Presidency and the degradation of the EU.

No.

A far more immediate threat given it's Sweden, is Islam infiltrating their military ranks.

If Sweden had someone like Trump leading the country, they'd be far safer. It's the liberals who turned that country into the rape capital of Europe.


You need to source a claim like that.


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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: Pyle

I've sourced it countless. Is the Gatestone Institute good enough for you?




As part of the evidence Michael Hess presented in court, he made use of whatever statistics existed on immigrant criminality in Sweden before the statistical authorities stopped measuring. Michael Hess tried to find answers to two questions:

Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and the number of people with a foreign background in Sweden?
Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and some specific group of immigrants in Sweden?

The answer to both questions was an unequivocal Yes. Twenty-one research reports from the 1960s until today are unanimous in their conclusions: Whether or not they measured by the number of convicted rapists or men suspected of rape, men of foreign extraction were represented far more than Swedes. And this greater representation of persons with a foreign background keeps increasing:

1960-1970s – 1.2 to 2.6 times as often as Swedes
1980s – 2.1 to 4.7 times as often as Swedes
1990s – 2.1 to 8.1 times as often as Swedes
2000s – 2.1 to 19.5 times as often as Swedes
Even when adjusted for variables such as age, sex, class and place of residence, the huge discrepancy between immigrants and Swedes remains.


Much more here. Plenty more out there.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: MysticPearl

Assange is probably a Islamic terrorist?

If you want to point your subjective retarded xenophobic world view, do it where you have monkeys around


Using the international, US/UK led witch-hunt against Assange as evidence is asinine.

Your personal attack and poor understanding shows you're not worth debating with.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl




Twenty-one research reports from the 1960s until today are unanimous in their conclusions


Please by all means quote all 21 sources, and we can start there..



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Ive been saying its a good idea in the US all along...then had some member tell me I hate freedom and rag me down. He was too weak minded to understand... train every damn buddy. Good idea in case of.....
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: Pyle

I've sourced it countless. Is the Gatestone Institute good enough for you?




As part of the evidence Michael Hess presented in court, he made use of whatever statistics existed on immigrant criminality in Sweden before the statistical authorities stopped measuring. Michael Hess tried to find answers to two questions:

Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and the number of people with a foreign background in Sweden?
Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and some specific group of immigrants in Sweden?

The answer to both questions was an unequivocal Yes. Twenty-one research reports from the 1960s until today are unanimous in their conclusions: Whether or not they measured by the number of convicted rapists or men suspected of rape, men of foreign extraction were represented far more than Swedes. And this greater representation of persons with a foreign background keeps increasing:

1960-1970s – 1.2 to 2.6 times as often as Swedes
1980s – 2.1 to 4.7 times as often as Swedes
1990s – 2.1 to 8.1 times as often as Swedes
2000s – 2.1 to 19.5 times as often as Swedes
Even when adjusted for variables such as age, sex, class and place of residence, the huge discrepancy between immigrants and Swedes remains.


Much more here. Plenty more out there.


Or you could source stormfront also? or any biased so called "News Source"



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Yeah, will they draft the immigrants too? i can see soldiers getting shot in the back.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: scubagravy

No, cant see that happening. Depends on age however, but not untill 2030 i would believe.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Being forced to comply and do what you're told for so many months ain't such a good thing.

Left! Right! Left!

Until the mind doesn't digest it anymore, the body reacts to the orders automatically.

This is what's wrong with humanity. It's not what's good. We need more people who can think, not more whom can shut up and follow orders, and let others do all the mental work for them.
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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Sixteen posts in, and it's already getting far too heated.

Some of you need to chill out right now.

Do not respond to this post



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 01:02 AM
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I wonder if this is more of a "Covert" action to surrepticiously cull all the recent Muslim immigrants OUT of Sweden....knowing full well most of them wont want to fight for Sweden, even if they are "Citizens".
Interesting to see what develops.
Could be a ruling, if you (young men) dont join the required national service, for the country, You will be deported to whence you came.

May be a way to get the rats off the sinking ship, to make it float again.

The Vikings are back.....well played Sweden....Berzerkos Val Halla Uula!!

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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 01:18 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

I would suggest their reasons for this is that its a way of dealing with the immigrant problem, at least in part and at the same time I think they can see war, either internal or external, is coming into view.




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